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Re: trade to move Boris Diaw
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Originally Posted by
Kawhitstorm
Can't do a S&T w/ a 1+1 deal:
The Raptors would be the perfect landing spot for Boris since they really need a PF & just lost out on Pau.
Shit, I didn't realize there was a Non-Bird Exception now, which is what the Cavs used to sign James last year and what the Warriors will use to sign Durant next year, the Spurs will use on Gasol, etc. It allows a 20% raise.
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Re: trade to move Boris Diaw
Not a huge fan of signing him, but it's better than another year of fatass Diaw.
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Re: trade to move Boris Diaw
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Originally Posted by
ducks
Boris to raptors for picks
Raptors lost backup center
Raptors don't have a starting PF let along backup center.:lol (Nogueira will most likely be the backup center)
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Re: trade to move Boris Diaw
Finally fat ass is gone, he can coast somewhere else. MVPau welcome home, new big 3 :worthy:
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Re: trade to move Boris Diaw
Move fucking Bonner to the fucking Celtics, jeez... I was looking forward to contract-year Boris
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Re: trade to move Boris Diaw
Diaw's gonna end up on the Warriors somehow.
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Re: trade to move Boris Diaw
LOL. What? Diaw has a list of teams he'd like to be traded to? Fuck him. Take your espresso machine and go wherever they send you.
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Re: trade to move Boris Diaw
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Originally Posted by
loveforthegame
LOL. What? Diaw has a list of teams he'd like to be traded to? Fuck him. Take your espresso machine and go wherever they send you.
Probably cause teams are giving same thing in return, 2nd rounder most likely so better to keep players thinking SA a good place to go.
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Re: trade to move Boris Diaw
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Originally Posted by
midnightpulp
Duncan is done, bro. If he's truly retiring, then that mean the knee is shot.
And Diaw is a dice roll. Yes, Pau is worse than 2014 Diaw and Duncan, but better than 2016 Diaw and post-wheel-falling off Duncan.
Still would rather have Diaw than Gasol for $30 mil.
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Re: trade to move Boris Diaw
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Originally Posted by
ducks
Boris to raptors for picks
Raptors lost backup center
I'm sure Toronto is looking into Max Ezeli as we speak. :wakeup
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Re: trade to move Boris Diaw
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Originally Posted by
Robz4000
Still would rather have Diaw than Gasol for $30 mil.
Filling the void Duncan leaves is a bigger priority than keeping Diaw. The fact the Spurs so aggressively pursued Gasol tells me Duncan informed them of his retirement early on.
And Gasol is the closest thing to Duncan there is in the league.
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Re: trade to move Boris Diaw
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Originally Posted by
elemento
I bet he ends up in Toronto.
Agreed.
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Re: trade to move Boris Diaw
Not sure why everyone is so down on Gasol, especially seeing Mozgov get 16 million a season tbh
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Re: trade to move Boris Diaw
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Originally Posted by
midnightpulp
Filling the void Duncan leaves is a bigger priority than keeping Diaw. The fact the Spurs so aggressively pursued Gasol tells me Duncan informed them of his retirement early on.
And Gasol is the closest thing to Duncan there is in the league.
I agree with that, but not for $30 mil. I was 100% on board with getting Gasol, but now that I see his ridiculous market and that Durant really did pussy out I'd rather the Spurs just roll with what they have and bring in a young prospect or cheap C, especially when Gasol will have to be benched against their only real Western competition (GS).
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Re: trade to move Boris Diaw
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Originally Posted by
objective
Same thing happened with Malik Rose after they brought in Horry, I think.
It seemed like with Rose it was just pressing to try to justify the $42 million contract he signed. He made lots of stupid mistakes but I don't think it was ever a question of effort like with Diaw.
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Re: trade to move Boris Diaw
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Originally Posted by
Leetonidas
Not sure why everyone is so down on Gasol, especially seeing Mozgov get 16 million a season tbh
It's disappointing because Duncan was terrible defending the pick & roll, which is such a big part of today's game, especially against the Warriors.
Spurs are committing $30+ million over the next two years on a 36 year old who might fall off just as hard as Duncan.
And didn't improve the pick & roll defense at all. If anything worse in other areas of defense.
And that also costs them Diaw and who knows what else.
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Re: trade to move Boris Diaw
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Originally Posted by
Mugen
I'm fine with trading away Boris. I'm not fine with salary dumping him and getting nothing in return.
If we can get rid of Boris without having to ADD a pick for inducement, I would count that as a win.
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Re: trade to move Boris Diaw
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Originally Posted by
sasaint
If we can get rid of Boris without having to ADD a pick for inducement, I would count that as a win.
Not adding, taking one back
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Re: trade to move Boris Diaw
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Originally Posted by
midnightpulp
Filling the void Duncan leaves is a bigger priority than keeping Diaw. The fact the Spurs so aggressively pursued Gasol tells me Duncan informed them of his retirement early on.
And Gasol is the closest thing to Duncan there is in the league.
Then why the heck did he accept the player option? Makes no sense.
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Re: trade to move Boris Diaw
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Originally Posted by
objective
It's disappointing because Duncan was terrible defending the pick & roll, which is such a big part of today's game, especially against the Warriors.
Spurs are committing $30+ million over the next two years on a 36 year old who might fall off just as hard as Duncan.
And didn't improve the pick & roll defense at all. If anything worse in other areas of defense.
And that also costs them Diaw and who knows what else.
Yeah, and our team would've been even more elite on offense if our starting C could've hit a bucket to save his life. 2nd year is a player option which he will likely opt out of and the cap is exploding. Garbage players like Mozgov are getting 16 million a season. What do you think, given that Duncan decided to retire, the Spurs could've done to get better? This is literally the best they can do with the space they have and he's taking 10 million less to play here. Diaw was shit last season and Pau costing Boris doesn't mean much unless we're living in the fantasy land that Diaw will have some epic resurgent year in 2017 at 35 and overweight
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Re: trade to move Boris Diaw
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Originally Posted by
szkorhetz
Then why the heck did he accept the player option? Makes no sense.
I don't see why it's crazy to think that Tim wanted to get paid after taking discounts the last few years
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Re: trade to move Boris Diaw
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Originally Posted by
baseline bum
LMA - $20.6M
Kawhi - $17.6M
Parker - $14.5M
Green - $10.0M
Diaw - $7.0M
Mills - $3.2M
Duncan - $2.1M (stretch provision applied)
Anderson - $1.1M
Simmons - $0.9M
4 roster spots under 12 - $2.0M
TOTAL: $79.0M
CAPSPACE: $15.0M
They have other guys to sign. Manu Bertans, maybe West, Boban.
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Re: trade to move Boris Diaw
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Originally Posted by
montgod
Not adding, taking one back
You may have misread my comment. If we actually GET a pick then that would be a double-plus win for the Spurs.
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Re: trade to move Boris Diaw
I could see Spurs adding Thomas Robinson as well. Spurs have shown some interest in him. Spurs remaking roster in big ways ..
Gasol, Boban, LJC, Bertans, LMA, Kwahi, Anderson, Robinson. Adds some length and athleticism there. Just not a lot of proven game play yet. should be interesting.
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Re: trade to move Boris Diaw
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Originally Posted by
lmbebo
I could see Spurs adding Thomas Robinson as well. Spurs have shown some interest in him. Spurs remaking roster in big ways ..
Gasol, Boban, LJC, Bertans, LMA, Kwahi, Anderson, Robinson. Adds some length and athleticism there. Just not a lot of proven game play yet. should be interesting.
I would rather take a flyer on Jarnell Stokes than have Thomas Robinson.