You're right on everything you said...but ease up on Timmy. He's the GOAT he can do whatever he wants at anytime..the ultimate exception
Forget that. He could have done whatever he wanted while opting out. He chose to put money into this cap situation, and he really does owe it to them to be reasonable with this decision, especially considering they're about to give him a fortune to sit at home.
07-06-2016
ElNono
Re: Bertans deal for Minimum
Manu should get the room exception, tbh
07-06-2016
coachmac87
Re: Bertans deal for Minimum
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Originally Posted by Chinook
Forget that. He could have done whatever he wanted while opting out. He chose to put money into this cap situation, and he really does owe it to them to be reasonable with this decision, especially considering they're about to give him a fortune to sit at home.
Well you're ignoring the fact that he's torn. We're talking about one of the greats contemplation if he wants to continue..seems like there's still a little fire. I don't care what the Spurs do rest of season if I get to see 21 play a "official" final year I'd do it.
07-06-2016
DPG21920
Re: Bertans deal for Minimum
Parker/Danny/Kawhi/LMA/Pau
Bench for sure: Mills/Murray/Simmons/Kyle
If Bertans gets cap space, Manu gets Room Exception that gives SA a bench of:
Mills/Manu/Simmons/Kyle/Bertans/Murray
That is only 11 players and at least two bigs short with nothing but minimum contracts and trades to fill the holes.
07-06-2016
kobyz
Re: Bertans deal for Minimum
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Originally Posted by Kawhitstorm
He doesn't move without the ball as well as Korver, he's more like ST favorite washed up Keith Van Horn w/ a quicker release.:lol
You wish, Bartnes is not nba level player at all, too soft, too weak, too slow, keep dreaming!!
07-06-2016
Chinook
Re: Bertans deal for Minimum
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Originally Posted by DPG21920
Parker/Danny/Kawhi/LMA/Pau
Bench for sure: Mills/Murray/Simmons/Kyle
If Bertans gets cap space, Manu gets Room Exception that gives SA a bench of:
Mills/Manu/Simmons/Kyle/Bertans/Murray
That is only 11 players and at least two bigs short with nothing but minimum contracts and trades to fill the holes.
Don't forget that either Tim is a Spur, or they likely can afford another decent free agent, or at least keep Boban.
07-06-2016
ElNono
Re: Bertans deal for Minimum
This site has both Bertrans and Ryan Arcidiacono signed for the minimum:
Looks like they update pretty much instantly too, which is nice, if correct (personally have no connection with the site)
07-06-2016
DPG21920
Re: Bertans deal for Minimum
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Originally Posted by Chinook
Don't forget that either Tim is a Spur, or they likely can afford another decent free agent, or at least keep Boban.
That's right, because if Manu takes the RE, then SA would have ~4M in cap space even after Bertans if he's getting the min or close.
In your scenario you have Tim at 2M in cap space because he's stretched correct.
07-06-2016
ElNono
Re: Bertans deal for Minimum
Also, if they really did give Arci a contract, moving Mills could be in play...
07-06-2016
Dex
Re: Bertans deal for Minimum
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Originally Posted by coachmac87
Well you're ignoring the fact that he's torn. We're talking about one of the greats contemplation if he wants to continue..seems like there's still a little fire. I don't care what the Spurs do rest of season if I get to see 21 play a "official" final year I'd do it.
My gut has told me all along he will play one more year. As such, I haven't even mentally prepared for the fact that we may never see a #21 don a Spurs jersey.
In retrospect, it would probably be most Duncan-like for him to retire now...to avoid the glitz of a farewell tour which he personally criticized (re: Kobe) and just walk off into the sunset under the radar. If he comes back for "one more year", it's gonna be hard to avoid the spotlight.
I have simply no idea what he is going to do at this point. And considering the fact that Tim took the option but hasn't announced anything since...its possible he doesn't quite know either.
07-06-2016
DPG21920
Re: Bertans deal for Minimum
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Originally Posted by ElNono
Also, if they really did give Arci a contract, moving Mills could be in play...
I'm not impressed with him at all. Hoping he's not on the team - especially instead of Patty.
07-06-2016
Dex
Re: Bertans deal for Minimum
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Originally Posted by DPG21920
I'm not impressed with him at all. Hoping he's not on the team - especially instead of Patty.
He's been underwhelming for sure. Very timid. He's a decent floor leader and looks to make plays for everyone else, but hasn't really looked for his own shot in the first two summer league games.
07-06-2016
ElNono
Re: Bertans deal for Minimum
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Originally Posted by DPG21920
I'm not impressed with him at all. Hoping he's not on the team - especially instead of Patty.
It's just a min deal right now, they could cut him anytime, i suppose, or just fill in that 3rd stringer PG role
07-06-2016
look_at_g_shred
Re: Bertans deal for Minimum
What about Forbes?
07-06-2016
DPG21920
Re: Bertans deal for Minimum
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Originally Posted by ElNono
It's just a min deal right now, they could cut him anymore, i suppose, or just fill in that 3rd stringer PG role
I'm saying if you trade Patty, now you are down a player for him then if you cut him, really tough. Spurs guard depth, even with Manu, is rough and can't afford to trade Mills unless you get a proven NBA player.
07-06-2016
ElNono
Re: Bertans deal for Minimum
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Originally Posted by DPG21920
I'm saying if you trade Patty, now you are down a player for him then if you cut him, really tough. Spurs guard depth, even with Manu, is rough and can't afford to trade Mills unless you get a proven NBA player.
Well, my thinking was Manu could just be the de-facto backup PG. They could go cheap with a shooter like Forbes and trade Patty's $3m deal for something better than a min deal big.
07-06-2016
RuffnReadyOzStyle
Re: Bertans deal for Minimum
I hope Bertans is as good as Bjelica. If so, bargain!
07-06-2016
CGD
Re: Bertans deal for Minimum
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Originally Posted by DPG21920
Parker/Danny/Kawhi/LMA/Pau
Bench for sure: Mills/Murray/Simmons/Kyle
If Bertans gets cap space, Manu gets Room Exception that gives SA a bench of:
Mills/Manu/Simmons/Kyle/Bertans/Murray
That is only 11 players and at least two bigs short with nothing but minimum contracts and trades to fill the holes.
Well, they have their two former first round picks in LCJ and Mulitinov, but yeah, the point is well taken: the big situation is rough.
07-06-2016
Kawhitstorm
Re: Bertans deal for Minimum
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Originally Posted by kobyz
You wish, Bartnes is not nba level player at all, too soft, too weak, too slow, keep dreaming!!
He isn't Jewish so he should be fine.
07-06-2016
jermaine
Re: Bertans deal for Minimum
Im sorry people... but after watching many of his highlights, I think him an The guard we signed could be the key to us beating GS! Call me crazy
07-06-2016
TD 21
Re: Bertans deal for Minimum
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Originally Posted by CGD
Well, they have their two former first round picks in LCJ and Mulitinov, but yeah, the point is well taken: the big situation is rough.
I know it was probably prearranged and Jean-Charles could attempt to force their hand, but they really can't afford to be handing a player, who by all accounts doesn't appear to be an NBA player, a roster spot.
If Forbes pulls a Neal and basically forces his way onto the team, they'll only have one spot left and they'll need both a rotation caliber power forward (even if the plan is to play Anderson mostly as the backup power forward, there's certain match-ups he won't be able to play it and if Aldridge went down, they'd be screwed) and depth center.
07-06-2016
tonight...you
Re: Bertans deal for Minimum
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Originally Posted by jermaine
Im sorry people... but after watching many of his highlights, I think him an The guard we signed could be the key to us beating GS! Call me crazy
I will call you crazy for basing prognostications off of highlight reels, but that doesn't necessarily make you wrong...
07-06-2016
Splits
Re: Bertans deal for Minimum
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Originally Posted by Chinook
Yes, and that's what I've been assuming for a long time. The room exception is quite a bit bigger than that, though. The reason why it would be a disappointment is because it could break up what is actually a pretty good asset, when they'd have the cap room is Duncan just made his damned decision. Who the hell needs until 7/10 to make up their minds? That's just so random.
Who says Tim hasn't made up his mind? Just because it isn't public...
07-06-2016
DPG21920
Re: Bertans deal for Minimum
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Originally Posted by Splits
Who says Tim hasn't made up his mind? Just because it isn't public...
Well, the fact SA has made the moves they made and the route they have chosen to go about things makes it pretty clear SA doesn't know yet.