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That was fast.
https://youtu.be/xJ2aqSjSWyI
Was he really that good?
Harlem, Chinook most notably wanted him. Sorry if I missed your name.
It's all happening!!!!
Without having watched him too much or looked at all his numbers this seems very good getting him cheaper than Boban, unless Boban really is a monster and not a liability at all on both ends playing extended minutes, but I seriously doubt that.
Where's this money coming from. I'm assuming Duncan is retiring
Looks like the Room Exception. Really looking forward to seeing him play after all the talk about him.
But... but... there weren't any leaks so that means they weren't interested.
This nicca is nasty! Lawd i cant wait!
If true... Manure took all the money we had leftQuote:
Originally Posted by jyra
:pctoss overpaid
I was watching this dude the other day in the summer league, he stood out.
Thanks for the vid!Quote:
Originally Posted by BatManu20
Need a scouting report but based on the video, he seems to be a shot blocker, capable roller, a garbage guy, and has some range.
Someone said something about seeing Manu an Paul play together.. Hell Ginobili is gonna make this nicca look like Jesus nephew!
Jesus the paletero's nephew? Cause I know you ain't talking about THE Jesus.Quote:
Originally Posted by jermaine
The only players Manu sets up is the other team after a turnover.
Well he's only 26. Turns 27 in August and should be entering the prime of his career.
Yes. :tu
guy looks deadly inside 6".
I was shaking my head when his agent announced Manu's intentions to return to the NBA. Just when I was getting hyped about Forbes, who will probably get to be the towel-waver now.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht
Get ready for Hack-a-Dedmon. I loved Boban's shooting touch, but I was never convinced he was an NBA-caliber player with his poor/slow footwork.
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Originally Posted by BatManu20
Boban who?:lol This dude plays some d, has a stroke and is athletic as they come! Lol Spurs do it again!!
If he's good he'll get to play enough minutes. KA will be getting some pf minutes. Simmons shouldn't getting much play time. Who knows what Bertans will do. Forbes could get some minutes at the 2 with Manu at the 3. Also we'll be blowing teams out so he'll get plenty of garbage time.Quote:
Originally Posted by sasaint
Great (non-bias) post :tuQuote:
Originally Posted by sasaint
I for one would love finally being the recipient of the Hack-a !Quote:
Originally Posted by sasaint
So often it ends up being in the recipient's favor.
What a bonus if that were to happen!
I love that he isn't completely inept to putting the ball on the floor when running the pnr. Also despite the overwhelming number of dunks he can finish in other ways at the rim. Can't wait to watch him and the team. I'm assuming he'll be the first big off the bench.
Warriors now have to look elsewhere. Reed, perhaps.
Interesting. Not bad at all.
Someone who can actually roll is great news for the bench.
I predict that Manu's assists will go up again.
Thought this news broke ST. Apparently it was the Boban one :(. Accdg to my orlando buds he's a servicable backup big
And looks like FO is done with.any turd towers frontline :lol
But can he clap? <wonders what the lowlights look like>
6 inches? Well, everyone in the NBA minus Danny Green is deadly inside 6 inches.Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
Good signing. :tu
JHUTT
to see this guy next to pau or aldridge :lmao
paus assists going up.
Heres a good video to show you where Dewayne came from.
It got me cheering for this kid. I hope he pans out with the Spurs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snnt...ature=youtu.be
Apparently it's a player option for the 2nd year...hard to see any scenario where he doesn't end up opting out and getting more money, but regardless, gotta be happy with getting him this year for $3 million considering some of these other contracts being handed out.
Should be interesting seeing him in the PnR with Manu. I expect a fair amount of dropped passes but as long as he's better than Ayres in that department we should be fine :lol
damn, this is awful
Thanks for posting that video. Great story indeed. Love this move. The Spurs do it again.
No, his cap hold stayed on the books and now they can resign him to whatever they want (Bird rights). His salary is totally irrelevant.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht
So we get Denmon and Gasol but lose timmay and Boban? We have to keep Boban in some way. He's awesome and has huge interest in the fan base
Keep Boban!!!!
Where's Chinook? This was his guy.
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Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
:lol
That's a dunkful highlight reel...very true!!
So is the entire Spurs bench going to be playing in the summer league? :lol
Dedmon might be the one with the most NBA experience since he almost looked like a legit back up C last year.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeM_d6ak1Js
:lol shitting on Gasol
At least Spurs have another player that can catch lobs besides Kawhi
I too wonder thisQuote:
Originally Posted by MVPCues
So the Spurs get the poor man's Mahinmi. Woot.
Yup. I just wonder if Spurs could have just kept Bobo and matched for Boban. Just hoping the rookies are going to be better than advertised.Quote:
Originally Posted by Obstructed_View
He was my #1 choice for the off-season, tbh(knowing Durant had 0% chance of joining the Spurs)..nice buy-low option that should thrive with real coaching and teammates(which he didn't have in Orlando)
Still a project on offense, can't create for himself, but great pick&roll and finisher off the catch(draws a lot of and-1s, too, IIRC)..defense is his strength, though, particularly rim protection, although fouling is an issue for him..
I don't see how they could do one of those, let alone both, unless you didn't want Gasol. I just hope the rookies aren't some combination of useless and completely wasted by Pop.Quote:
Originally Posted by ceperez
Quite underwelmed, but he's got height and a good vertical. Not very skilled, but DeAndre Jordan isn't very skilled also but is a menace.Quote:
Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37
Edit
:pop: I hope he can make layups and catch bounce passes on the break. He ain't gonna be dunking like that here.
The Spurs are serious underdogs, despite what many here think, tbh..barring injury, they have a slim chance of contending by signing washed-up veterans and finished products IMO..
While part of the reason they are loading up with young, unknown players(and banking on Anderson, Simmons, etc) and Internationals is to be fiscally efficient, it's also the correct strategy from a basketball perspective IMO..they need to hit on some of these buy-low projects, they are loading up on athleticism and potential shooters..the unknown that leads to potential disappointment is still better than adding finished products with just an average ROI..
Manu and Mills are the veterans on the bench..Ginobili, in particular, is the leader of the 2nd unit and he's going to run things most of the time, anyways..I'm excited that they're surrounding them with young-ish, athletic players and potential shooters, rather than washed-up, known products like Kevin Martin..
i really like this :tu
But you love the shit out of some scrubs that will never be real NBA players. Just stop posting.Quote:
Originally Posted by ceperez
That's the WRONG Dedmon.:lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Spurs9
better pg than Parker
Good post. I also like the strategy of young athletic dudes entering their primes versus a bunch of washed up vets. Remember that season (08 I think) when we had all those washed up vets and thought we would ring, lol. Finley, van exel, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37
Jordan an Howard comes to mind watching this guy. But can hit the midrange a bit. The Spurs hasn't had a guy that loves the paint an rebound since Blair. Only this nicca got height to go with it. We sure haven't had anyone who finishes like he does that i can remember.
So I would assume there goes all the cap space along w/Manu signing. Anyone else that comes, would have to be a minimum deal I would assume.
i wanted thomas robinson but dedmon is taller so i'm fine with it. would've taken either over boban.
It looks like Budford has gradually implemented his plan to fill the roster with long players. I really like these moves and Spurs finally moved away from the signing of the veterans and fcuk GW & small balls.
get him in pick n rolls with simmons, kawhi, manu.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJ2aqSjSWyI
Great pickup and value.
Nice!
I am so pumped. Along with HH & Chinook, I really wanted this guy especially when it became more apparent West/Tim were gone.
Spurs needed a big with bounce after having LMA/Tim/West/Bonner/Boris/Boban. He is that guy. He's not an all-star but for this money, he's one of the only players with enough upside and fit to be a home run which is what SA needs in order to have a high ceiling.
He reminds me of a Brandon Wright type. His advanced numbers are really solid and he is exactly the type of player that SA needed.
Between upside, actual fit/team need this was a home run signing!!
He & Terrence Jones were the guys I really wanted outside of Pau, so I'm ecstatic.
Well, I like your enthusiasm. Does he know how to pass?Quote:
Originally Posted by DPG21920
Also, two things:
1. Thank GOD SA was on his trail. I was really worried with the reports on GS going after Dedmon. He would have been a massive grab for them regardless of if he actually panned out. They can't have anymore upside and keeping him out of GS hands was big. It also relieves me because it means SA was truly hunting for bigs like him which they recognize is a big need. Things are on the right track!
2. It's also good to see that my logic held true. Many people on here were questioning why "Dedmon would choose SA over GS". I have been saying that with Tim/West/Boban/Boris gone there is actual playing time available for bigs and with Pau/LMA it would be a VERY attractive place for upside younger-ish bigs to play because they would get a great coach, have the "Spurs branding" on them now & get actual rotation minutes.
Great to see that logic held true with Dedmon
He's not a point guard. He's a 7 foot 1 center bought on the cheap. Who cares if he can pass?Quote:
Originally Posted by ceperez
Did we not pay him more than GSW could offer?Quote:
Originally Posted by DPG21920
Nice post.Quote:
Originally Posted by DPG21920
I hope he blossoms under our coaching staff and veteran's attention. Everyone is so hi on him, and don't want to be a bringdown, but what his weaknesses? Why hasn't he been more successful so far in the NBA?
Not sure. Even if so, it was not so much to where people were claiming that "No way he signs with SA over GS, why would he". No where in those types of posts was money really mentioned either IIRC.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nathan89
Jeez, I was hoping for Drew Gooden or Carlos Boozer:
:rolleyes
Love this pickup tbh. Sad to see Boban gone but it makes sense with Pau already on the team. Team needed some athleticism in the frontcourt and this was the best available on the market considering his price tag.
We're going to have much better rim protection this season. Dedmon was 9th in the league in Block Rate (blocks-per-minute) last season, and Paul Gasol was 11th (Pau was also 2nd in the league in blocks-to-fouls ratio). Our best Block Rate last year was Duncan, who was 24th in the league.
He's a bad offensive player..his only skill is catching and finishing..can't create for himself, can't pass, can't shoot..similar to Biyombo and others of that nature, reliant on others to create for him..Quote:
Originally Posted by BillMc
Defensively, he has a major problem with fouling..overall, though, he grades really well in virtually all defensive metrics, both team and individual..
He's coming off by far his most productive per-minute season in the NBA, though..it's also encouraging that the other team interested in his services was the other(along with SA) premiere front office in the league (GS)
I just dont like this player option contract after 1st year. If he does well he helps us this year, then some other team overpays next year and we lose him. Basically devloping players for other teams to sign. I dont know how other teams will handle it either for as much as they are giving out in contracts. Warriors will have 4 max players and try to rely on most outside that to be minimums. Cap is going up lower than projected next year too, 103million.
one of the all-star games.... Manu, Dirk, and pau were out there together. It was great to watch even though they were all fucking around.Quote:
Originally Posted by jermaine
Excited to see Manu run point with the rest of the starting 5
Convinced Warriors FO reads Spurstalk.
I really hope they don't go after Jeff Ayres or Austin Daye. Those Warriors, always ahead of the league.
Cheers. Thanks for that. So he's a homeless man's DeAndre Jordan?Quote:
Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37
1.x mil is significant at that level though. Especially when both options are great options. If someone questions "why?" though then money should be part of the reason to that question.Quote:
Originally Posted by DPG21920
What he said, plus, inexplicably he was not getting minutes available on ORL for no good reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37
He's a great finisher off of lobs and put backs, has good enough hands on the roll to the rim, but other than that, he's not going to be an offensive player.
His value lies in his mobility, rebounding and shot blocking which SA's bench really needed.
Yeah, I would have loved it a lot more if it was for a straight 2 years, rather than having that player option. Do you guys think we'd lose him if he plays well?Quote:
Originally Posted by Spurs9
Now we just need to find some players who can actually throw them. :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Leetonidas
Maybe, but that was not the overarching point to those people's point. They were discounting the logic of SA being a good place for bigs like Dedmone because money aside, they thought GS was EVEN BETTER.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nathan89
1M in this market is not really significant IMO. If someone has a chance to secure a much bigger contract in 1-2 years they aren't passing up a clear cut better chance to star/increase worth in a major market for 1M.
Thanks. Look forward to seeing him play. We need at least 1 more big now though...Quote:
Originally Posted by DPG21920
I bet Bateer is still available.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht
And I'm not calling anyone out. I don't care to go back and look at who said what. I'm just happy that my logic held strong with seeing the bright side of the not so bright spot SA found themselves in with limited money, a need for bigs and lots of competition.
I'm happy because it means SA has really put themselves on the map as a FA destination even though they are a small market. Now when SA is close in money (Dedmon), has less money (West last year) or equal money (LMA last year) they are being taken seriously by all levels when teams like OKC, CLE, etc.. Could not do the same thing.
Bodes damn well for next year and beyond when SA really re-tools around LMA/Kawhi/Danny.
Not being able to create for yourself isn't very problematic in this league. The only offensive problem I see from what you described is the inability to pass. Unfortunately, we don't have the elite guard play to maximize this type of player.Quote:
Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37
I know you didn't ask me, but I think it's more like Brandon Wright. A guy with good length, very good athleticism that has limited offensive game but grades out well with advanced stats.Quote:
Originally Posted by BillMc
Wright has always been that "breakout numbers" guy; but he keeps getting injured. Dedmon to me is very similar to him.
Pat yourself on the back if you please but a money difference matters. You could very well be right for the wrong reasons.
Keep in mind that Pau is an elite passer for a big. LMA is solid, but not spectacular. If Dedmon plays along side any starting big, he's ok to cover up there even though it's a flaw and at times if he's getting the ball outside of when it's a lob or he's in the PNR it could be ugly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nathan89
However, on the bench with Manu (willing passer), Mills (not so great), Kyle (very good passer) & Simmons (solid enough) he should be in good shape with the bench.
Cheers!:toastQuote:
Originally Posted by DPG21920
So I gues
Ok. I now get the sense that you were the one asking "why would players sign with SA over GS".Quote:
Originally Posted by Nathan89
Other than Timmy.:depressed:depressed:depressedQuote:
Originally Posted by Dex
Still have needs at the PG spot, back up or 3rd PF spot and another swingman to fill out the roster (depending on Timmy's decision).
Kyle Anderson is going to need to make leap in production regardless of that looking at the current roster.
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Originally Posted by DPG21920
:lmao Yup! No mention of money being a reason why and in fact you even argued against the same thing I just said (no one is choosing 1M over, and I quote, "that team will showcase his talents and allow him to get a big contract next year"Quote:
Originally Posted by Nathan89
Classic Nathan.
i wanna see a small ball line up of manu/green/kawhi/bertans/dedmon. or murray/manu/kawhi/bertans/dedmon.
what's awkward is that i think lma/dedmon, gasol/dedmon works better than lma/gasol.