Dedmon to the Spurs

Jeez, I was hoping for Drew Gooden or Carlos Boozer:

:rolleyes

Love this pickup tbh. Sad to see Boban gone but it makes sense with Pau already on the team. Team needed some athleticism in the frontcourt and this was the best available on the market considering his price tag.

We're going to have much better rim protection this season. Dedmon was 9th in the league in Block Rate (blocks-per-minute) last season, and Paul Gasol was 11th (Pau was also 2nd in the league in blocks-to-fouls ratio). Our best Block Rate last year was Duncan, who was 24th in the league.

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Originally Posted by BillMc

Nice post.

I hope he blossoms under our coaching staff and veteran's attention. Everyone is so hi on him, and don't want to be a bringdown, but what his weaknesses? Why hasn't he been more successful so far in the NBA?

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He's a bad offensive player..his only skill is catching and finishing..can't create for himself, can't pass, can't shoot..similar to Biyombo and others of that nature, reliant on others to create for him..

Defensively, he has a major problem with fouling..overall, though, he grades really well in virtually all defensive metrics, both team and individual..

He's coming off by far his most productive per-minute season in the NBA, though..it's also encouraging that the other team interested in his services was the other(along with SA) premiere front office in the league (GS)

I just dont like this player option contract after 1st year. If he does well he helps us this year, then some other team overpays next year and we lose him. Basically devloping players for other teams to sign. I dont know how other teams will handle it either for as much as they are giving out in contracts. Warriors will have 4 max players and try to rely on most outside that to be minimums. Cap is going up lower than projected next year too, 103million.

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Originally Posted by jermaine

Someone said something about seeing Manu an Paul play together.. Hell Ginobili is gonna make this nicca look like Jesus nephew!

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one of the all-star games.... Manu, Dirk, and pau were out there together. It was great to watch even though they were all fucking around.

Excited to see Manu run point with the rest of the starting 5

Convinced Warriors FO reads Spurstalk.

I really hope they don't go after Jeff Ayres or Austin Daye. Those Warriors, always ahead of the league.

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Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37

He's a bad offensive player..his only skill is catching and finishing..can't create for himself, can't pass, can't shoot..similar to Biyombo and others of that nature, reliant on others to create for him..

Defensively, he has a major problem with fouling..overall, though, he grades really well in virtually all defensive metrics, both team and individual..

He's coming off by far his most productive per-minute season in the NBA, though..it's also encouraging that the other team interested in his services was the other(along with SA) premiere front office in the league (GS)

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Cheers. Thanks for that. So he's a homeless man's DeAndre Jordan?

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Originally Posted by DPG21920

Not sure. Even if so, it was not so much to where people were claiming that "No way he signs with SA over GS, why would he". No where in those types of posts was money really mentioned either IIRC.

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1.x mil is significant at that level though. Especially when both options are great options. If someone questions "why?" though then money should be part of the reason to that question.

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Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37

He's a bad offensive player..his only skill is catching and finishing..can't create for himself, can't pass, can't shoot..similar to Biyombo and others of that nature, reliant on others to create for him..

Defensively, he has a major problem with fouling..overall, though, he grades really well in virtually all defensive metrics, both team and individual..

He's coming off by far his most productive per-minute season in the NBA, though..it's also encouraging that the other team interested in his services was the other(along with SA) premiere front office in the league (GS)

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What he said, plus, inexplicably he was not getting minutes available on ORL for no good reason.

He's a great finisher off of lobs and put backs, has good enough hands on the roll to the rim, but other than that, he's not going to be an offensive player.

His value lies in his mobility, rebounding and shot blocking which SA's bench really needed.

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Originally Posted by Spurs9

I just dont like this player option contract after 1st year. If he does well he helps us this year, then some other team overpays next year and we lose him. Basically devloping players for other teams to sign. I dont know how other teams will handle it either for as much as they are giving out in contracts. Warriors will have 4 max players and try to rely on most outside that to be minimums. Cap is going up lower than projected next year too, 103million.

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Yeah, I would have loved it a lot more if it was for a straight 2 years, rather than having that player option. Do you guys think we'd lose him if he plays well?

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Originally Posted by Leetonidas

At least Spurs have another player that can catch lobs besides Kawhi

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Now we just need to find some players who can actually throw them. :lol

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Originally Posted by Nathan89

1.x mil is significant at that level though. Especially when both options are great options. If someone questions "why?" though then money should be part of the reason to that question.

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Maybe, but that was not the overarching point to those people's point. They were discounting the logic of SA being a good place for bigs like Dedmone because money aside, they thought GS was EVEN BETTER.

1M in this market is not really significant IMO. If someone has a chance to secure a much bigger contract in 1-2 years they aren't passing up a clear cut better chance to star/increase worth in a major market for 1M.

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Originally Posted by DPG21920

What he said, plus, inexplicably he was not getting minutes available on ORL for no good reason.

He's a great finisher off of lobs and put backs, has good enough hands on the roll to the rim, but other than that, he's not going to be an offensive player.

His value lies in his mobility, rebounding and shot blocking which SA's bench really needed.

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Thanks. Look forward to seeing him play. We need at least 1 more big now though...

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Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht

Convinced Warriors FO reads Spurstalk.

I really hope they don't go after Jeff Ayres or Austin Daye. Those Warriors, always ahead of the league.

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I bet Bateer is still available.

And I'm not calling anyone out. I don't care to go back and look at who said what. I'm just happy that my logic held strong with seeing the bright side of the not so bright spot SA found themselves in with limited money, a need for bigs and lots of competition.

I'm happy because it means SA has really put themselves on the map as a FA destination even though they are a small market. Now when SA is close in money (Dedmon), has less money (West last year) or equal money (LMA last year) they are being taken seriously by all levels when teams like OKC, CLE, etc.. Could not do the same thing.

Bodes damn well for next year and beyond when SA really re-tools around LMA/Kawhi/Danny.

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Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37

He's a bad offensive player..his only skill is catching and finishing..can't create for himself, can't pass, can't shoot..similar to Biyombo and others of that nature, reliant on others to create for him..

Defensively, he has a major problem with fouling..overall, though, he grades really well in virtually all defensive metrics, both team and individual..

He's coming off by far his most productive per-minute season in the NBA, though..it's also encouraging that the other team interested in his services was the other(along with SA) premiere front office in the league (GS)

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Not being able to create for yourself isn't very problematic in this league. The only offensive problem I see from what you described is the inability to pass. Unfortunately, we don't have the elite guard play to maximize this type of player.

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Originally Posted by BillMc

Cheers. Thanks for that. So he's a homeless man's DeAndre Jordan?

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I know you didn't ask me, but I think it's more like Brandon Wright. A guy with good length, very good athleticism that has limited offensive game but grades out well with advanced stats.

Wright has always been that "breakout numbers" guy; but he keeps getting injured. Dedmon to me is very similar to him.

Pat yourself on the back if you please but a money difference matters. You could very well be right for the wrong reasons.

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Originally Posted by Nathan89

Not being able to create for yourself isn't very problematic in this league. The only offensive problem I see from what you described is the inability to pass. Unfortunately, we don't have the elite guard play to maximize this type of player.

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Keep in mind that Pau is an elite passer for a big. LMA is solid, but not spectacular. If Dedmon plays along side any starting big, he's ok to cover up there even though it's a flaw and at times if he's getting the ball outside of when it's a lob or he's in the PNR it could be ugly.

However, on the bench with Manu (willing passer), Mills (not so great), Kyle (very good passer) & Simmons (solid enough) he should be in good shape with the bench.

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Originally Posted by DPG21920

I know you didn't ask me, but I think it's more like Brandon Wright. A guy with good length, very good athleticism that has limited offensive game but grades out well with advanced stats.

Wright has always been that "breakout numbers" guy; but he keeps getting injured. Dedmon to me is very similar to him.

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Cheers!:toast

So I gues

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Originally Posted by Nathan89

Pat yourself on the back if you please but a money difference matters. You could very well be right for the wrong reasons.

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Ok. I now get the sense that you were the one asking "why would players sign with SA over GS".

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Originally Posted by Dex

Now we just need to find some players who can actually throw them. :lol

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Other than Timmy.:depressed:depressed:depressed

Still have needs at the PG spot, back up or 3rd PF spot and another swingman to fill out the roster (depending on Timmy's decision).

Kyle Anderson is going to need to make leap in production regardless of that looking at the current roster.

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Originally Posted by DPG21920

Ok. I now get the sense that you were the one asking "why would players sign with SA over GS".

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Originally Posted by Nathan89

Why would Dedmon pick the spurs over GSW? That team will showcase his talents and allow him to get a big contract next year.

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:lmao Yup! No mention of money being a reason why and in fact you even argued against the same thing I just said (no one is choosing 1M over, and I quote, "that team will showcase his talents and allow him to get a big contract next year"

Classic Nathan.

i wanna see a small ball line up of manu/green/kawhi/bertans/dedmon. or murray/manu/kawhi/bertans/dedmon.

what's awkward is that i think lma/dedmon, gasol/dedmon works better than lma/gasol.