Dedmon to the Spurs

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Originally Posted by DPG21920

Ok. I now get the sense that you were the one asking "why would players sign with SA over GS".

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Yes, and the reasoning was purely role based. When in fact money could be a major factor.

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Originally Posted by DPG21920

:lmao Yup! No mention of money being a reason why and in fact you even argued against the same thing I just said (no one is choosing 1M over, and I quote, "that team will showcase his talents and allow him to get a big contract next year"

Classic Nathan.

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Originally Posted by DPG21920

Spurs would too. How much look will Dedmon get with their stars and Zaza/West? Spurs have LMA/Pau only from a big perspective and not as much star power to soak up every touch.

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Originally Posted by Nathan89

If he's good and a center he should play over West. Yes, Spurs will showcase his talents well but not to the likes of GSW. He'll just get so many easy baskets with that team.

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It was you going back and forth with me :lol

No mention of money, but now that my logic held up, you are trying to shift your argument. You could not comprehend how anyone would choose SA over GS and it had NOTHING to do with 1M then TBH IMVHO..

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Originally Posted by DPG21920

Maybe, but that was not the overarching point to those people's point. They were discounting the logic of SA being a good place for bigs like Dedmone because money aside, they thought GS was EVEN BETTER.

1M in this market is not really significant IMO. If someone has a chance to secure a much bigger contract in 1-2 years they aren't passing up a clear cut better chance to star/increase worth in a major market for 1M.

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In your post you first argued he would get showcased for a bigger deal with GS. When I say that about SA you now say it's because SA offered him 1M more. OK.

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Originally Posted by DPG21920

It was you going back and forth with me :lol

No mention of money, but now that my logic held up, you are trying to shift your argument. You could not comprehend how anyone would choose SA over GS and it had NOTHING to do with 1M then TBH IMVHO..

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1.xmil is significant when you are making 3mil per year. Especially when I said both teams will showcase his talents well. So given that both teams will showcase him well it would be unnecessary to take a lesser contract that is quite significant percentage wise.

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Originally Posted by DPG21920

I am so pumped. Along with HH & Chinook, I really wanted this guy especially when it became more apparent West/Tim were gone.

Spurs needed a big with bounce after having LMA/Tim/West/Bonner/Boris/Boban. He is that guy. He's not an all-star but for this money, he's one of the only players with enough upside and fit to be a home run which is what SA needs in order to have a high ceiling.

He reminds me of a Brandon Wright type. His advanced numbers are really solid and he is exactly the type of player that SA needed.

Between upside, actual fit/team need this was a home run signing!!

He & Terrence Jones were the guys I really wanted outside of Pau, so I'm ecstatic.

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Is his athleticism above-average?

Good pick up! Dude has incentive to play hard so he can opt out next summer for bigger pay day. I suppose that cuts both ways if he gets a big pay day

LMA, Gasol, Dedmon, LJC, Mulitinov starts to look like a respectable big man line up.

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Originally Posted by Dex

I bet Bateer is still available.

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Mengke Bateer. Provides what they need the most. Rebounding and Rim protecting

If some smart up and coming intern tells Jerry West about him, he/she will go places ASAP

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Originally Posted by gambit1990

i wanna see a small ball line up of manu/green/kawhi/bertans/dedmon. or murray/manu/kawhi/bertans/dedmon.

what's awkward is that i think lma/dedmon, gasol/dedmon works better than lma/gasol.

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yeah, seems that way, dedmon would pair better with gasol or aldridge. but it is still early to tell, Pau and Lamarcus should be able to build a good 2 man game.

spurs come playoff time will of course have a staggered roster with 2 of the 3 (pau, kawhi, lamarcus) always on the court at the same time.

in regular season, will be interesting to see what the effective all 2nd team would be:

mills, ginobili, bertans, anderson, dedmon (?) doesn't seem as capable as mills, ginobili, anderson, diaw, west/marjanovic

ljc, murray seem like Austin material.

simmons, forbes sound good enough to be backups to mills and ginobili.

Spurs likely to get 2nd seed, despite all the changes.

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Originally Posted by SpurPadre

Is his athleticism above-average?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJ2aqSjSWyI

I want to get excited about this guy but I just feel pop is going have him riding the bench like boban.

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Originally Posted by bic50

I want to get excited about this guy but I just feel pop is going have him riding the bench like boban.

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In favor of whom?

Dedmon is definitely the kind of the athletic hustle big Spurs have been missing since Baynes left and he is a legit 7'0 as well

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Originally Posted by bic50

I want to get excited about this guy but I just feel pop is going have him riding the bench like boban.

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That's not really an option. He could be the first big off the bench.

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Originally Posted by Nathan89

1.xmil is significant when you are making 3mil per year. Especially when I said both teams will showcase his talents well. So given that both teams will showcase him well it would be unnecessary to take a lesser contract that is quite significant percentage wise.

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That is not what you said at all. You very clearly asked why anyone would choose SA over GS :lol. You said he would get to showcase himself in GS much more than SA.

You did say essentially that SA wouldn't be a bad choice either, but you were pretty clear in your distinction about choosing GS over SA.

It's all good and damn you for bringing out the old argumentative DPG :lol. I'm just thrilled that SA got him.

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Originally Posted by bic50

I want to get excited about this guy but I just feel pop is going have him riding the bench like boban.

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That is what I was saying yesterday (and today) to Nathan. There are no other options. Pau/LMA aren't playing 40MPG (hell, probably only 35MPG). West, Tim, Boban, Boris are gone - they have to play.

honestly, I don't think Pop has the patience to coach all these neophytes!

Let's see... murray, bertans, LJC, dedmon, forbes

not counting anderson and simmons. 7 players.

sheesh!!!

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Originally Posted by SpurPadre

Is his athleticism above-average?

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Ya buddy. He's a very solid athlete. He's not DeAndre Jordan, but he's a very good athlete capable of put back dunks, lob dunks and finishing close to the rim with dunks. He can block shots.

I'm really not trying to build him up like some all-star, he's not. He has many limitations especially offensively. It's just a good skill set the Spurs needed.

Impressed with how quickly he gets down the court. Seems super fast for a 7 footer.

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Originally Posted by ceperez

honestly, I don't think Pop has the patience to coach all these neophytes!

Let's see... murray, bertans, LJC, dedmon, forbes

not counting anderson and simmons. 7 players.

sheesh!!!

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That will be the interesting part. Not just the youth but new to the team. Pau is older, but still new. It takes time to learn the system.

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Originally Posted by SpursforSix

Impressed with how quickly he gets down the court. Seems super fast for a 7 footer.

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true... he can definitely run... can't say the same about pau or lamarcus.

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Originally Posted by bic50

I want to get excited about this guy but I just feel pop is going have him riding the bench like boban.

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I would agree. But Pop played Jeff Ayers. Im sure he'll play this guy. Plus he more than likely won't have a choice.

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Originally Posted by DPG21920

In your post you first argued he would get showcased for a bigger deal with GS. When I say that about SA you now say it's because SA offered him 1M more. OK.

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Originally Posted by Nathan89

1.xmil is significant when you are making 3mil per year. Especially when I said both teams will showcase his talents well. So given that both teams will showcase him well it would be unnecessary to take a lesser contract that is quite significant percentage wise.

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Uh, it's about 1.8 million difference guys, give or take, at least by my reading of the vet minimum by year and the room exception

Plus playing time and role opened up in a big way when Boban signed his sheet and the Spurs couldn't match. Why pretend otherwise?

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Originally Posted by bic50

I want to get excited about this guy but I just feel pop is going have him riding the bench like boban.

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I wouldn't worry, I see Bertans as the new Hill-Splitter-Boban

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Originally Posted by Chinook

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJ2aqSjSWyI

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Nice, thanks. Looks like a good pickup. For a while, every time I saw someone mention Dedmon here, I thought they were misspelling Marcus Denmon, lol.