FiveThirtyEight's CARMELO Projections..

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Originally Posted by dabom

But he brings raw numbers and is reliable for his 20 and 10. You take him all day.

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I didn't say I agree with the assessment of him:lol

I'm just saying, players like Aldridge are always undervalued by advanced metrics and new-media, due to style of play..

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Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37

I didn't say I agree with the assessment of him:lol

I'm just saying, players like Aldridge are always undervalued by advanced metrics and new-media, due to style of play..

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:lol

This is why Daryl Morey is on the chopping block ....metrics are lame

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Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37

Not surprised about Aldridge, tbh..virtually all advanced metrics hate his game..there are certain players that are always going to be undervalued by the numbers due to their style of play..

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I'm sure if TP was a rebounder, he'd be labeled a defensive specialist like Dewayne Dedmon or Luis Scola (:lmao)

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Originally Posted by houston spurs fan

This is why Daryl Morey is on the chopping block ....metrics are lame

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Most of Morey's moves are actually anti-metrics, despite his beliefs:lol

The only "anti-establishment" principles that he actually follows(that are related to the basketball geek beliefs) are coaches not making an impact and chemistry being irrelevant..

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Originally Posted by look_at_g_shred

LMA 'average starter' LOL

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:lol

The description on the website says the algorithm predicted the breakouts of Kawhi, Gaymond, and Giannis Antekewhydoieventry. These results look about as useful as a vagina in a gay porn.

-$1m?

I want Boban back!

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Originally Posted by mudyez

-$1m?

I want Boban back!

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Either those projections are nonsense and should be taken with a grain of salt, or Spurstalk has a weird fetish for scrubs, broken down nobodies and YouTube highlight videos.

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Originally Posted by Hoops Czar

Either those projections are nonsense and should be taken with a grain of salt, or Spurstalk has a weird fetish for scrubs, broken down nobodies and YouTube highlight videos.

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Every analysis and algorithm-reliant metric should be taken with a grain of salt, obviously..

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Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37

Most of Morey's moves are actually anti-metrics, despite his beliefs:lol

The only "anti-establishment" principles that he actually follows(that are related to the basketball geek beliefs) are coaches not making an impact and chemistry being irrelevant..

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No clue what you are talking about per par. He comes on Sports Talk 790 down here all the time. He talks about chemistry and also look at the coaching decisions.

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Originally Posted by houston spurs fan

No clue what you are talking about per par. He comes on Sports Talk 790 down here all the time. He talks about chemistry and also look at the coaching decisions.

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I don't care about what he says, I've heard him talk on ESPN radio, too, his actual personnel moves don't reflect that, at all:lol

He has spent years signing players that don't fit together, stylistically, and they have had serious locker room problems for years..

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Originally Posted by look_at_g_shred

LMA 'average starter' LOL

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yep the guy is a all-star and all-nba

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Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37

I don't care about what he says, I've heard him talk on ESPN radio, too, his actual personnel moves don't reflect that, at all:lol

He has spent years signing players that don't fit together, stylistically, and they have had serious locker room problems for years..

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Les Alexander calls the shots down here, he likes big names (Barkley, Pippen, Tmac, and on and on). Not worth an argument though so I'm done, but Morey does leans heavily on metrics and is one of the leading experts on metrics in the country.

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Originally Posted by houston spurs fan

Les Alexander calls the shots down here, he likes big names (Barkley, Pippen, Tmac, and on and on). Not worth an argument though so I'm done, but Morey does leans heavily on metrics and is one of the leading experts on metrics in the country.

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Everybody is aware of his reputation and the perception:rolleyes

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Originally Posted by DPG21920

Seems really low for Kawhi projection wise. Also has every single starter declining?

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It has to do w/ win-share being a cumulative stat & Kawhi operating under Pop's minute limits. Otherwise, it makes ZERO sense for Kawhi to have less win-shares than Jimmy Butler (11.2) on a 50 win team circa 2014-15 which was achieved on a reasonable 2500 minutes.:lol (It would be better if they made the analysis using WS/48 since that would factor in the minutes)

The 2016-17 Spurs are going to be somewhat like the 2010-11 Celtics who won 56 games & Kawhi's role is going to be similar to Pierce w/ a higher usage rate.
-2010-11 Pierce (80 games/ 35 MPG / USG: 24%): 2774 MP, 18.9/5.4/3.3, 11.6 WS (WS/48: 0.201) (Per 36: 19.6/5.6/3.4)
-2015-16 Kawhi (72 games/ 33 MPG / USG: 25.8%): 2380 MP, 21.2/6.8/2.6, 13.7 WS (WS/48: 0.277:wow) (Per 36: Per 36: 23/7.5/2.8)

My projection:

-2015-16 Kawhi (76 games/ 35 MPG / USG: 27%): 2660 MP, 24/7/3.5, 14.5 WS (WS/48: 0.245)

Let's just hope he stays healthy (along w/ everyone else) otherwise what I projected is within his reach.:toast

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Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37

Everybody is aware of his reputation and the perception:rolleyes

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Lol

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Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37

Not surprised about Aldridge, tbh..virtually all advanced metrics hate his game..there are certain players that are always going to be undervalued by the numbers due to their style of play..

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Off the top of my head:
-Carmelo
-Klay "Best 2-way player" Thompson
-Kyrie
-MVPorker
-Monta Ellis

Basically, guy who just get buckets for the most part.

It equates DeFrozen to Klay without factoring in the intangibles.:lol

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Originally Posted by Kawhitstorm

Off the top of my head:
-Carmelo
-Klay "Best 2-way player" Thompson
-Kyrie
-MVPorker
-Monta Ellis

Basically, guy who just get buckets for the most part.

It equates DeFrozen to Klay without factoring in the intangibles.:lol

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Good point!

Guess the identity of this point guard:

Category:

BORDERLINE ALL-STAR
5-yr market value:
$121.5m


:wakeup

75 million projected value for Kyle Anderson?? :lmao

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Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37

Not surprised about Aldridge, tbh..virtually all advanced metrics hate his game..there are certain players that are always going to be undervalued by the numbers due to their style of play..

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Thanks for posting... surprised Manu is still so effective at his age, tbh

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