Which team was supposedly ready to throw 18-19 millions at Manu?

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Originally Posted by ThaBigFundamental21

I'm pretty sure I was at the game. Wasn't Tim hurt and the Spurs narrowly lost that game?

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Spurs won that game by 1 point. Carmelo bulldozed into Manu at the buzzer for a driving layup but the call was an offensive foul against Melo (Manu drew the charge)... game over.

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Originally Posted by UNT Eagles 2016

Spurs won that game by 1 point. Carmelo bulldozed into Manu at the buzzer for a driving layup but the call was an offensive foul against Melo (Manu drew the charge)... game over.

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Ah, I remember that game. All the controversy. I wasn't at that one. Great game though! Everyone was pissed because refs never call fouls that late in a game. Everyone was crying to let them play.

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Originally Posted by Mel_13

Hi, Seventyniner. Long time, no talk.

Refer back to the title and OP of this thread. The purpose of this little thought exercise, as I understand it, is to assume that timvp's report of an 18M offer is true and to guess which NBA team made the offer. Of the NBA teams with sufficient remaining cap space to even make such an offer, I find that the case for Philly is the most persuasive for the reasons already stated. Objections as strong, or stronger, than the ones you stated, can be lodged against of the other guesses submitted to this point.

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Good to see you back here Mel. :toast

I see your point. Philly doesn't make a world of sense, but other teams make even less sense. I hadn't looked at the big picture.

An offer like that is definitely not out of the Hinkie playbook, but with him gone anything is possible.

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Originally Posted by Seventyniner

Good to see you back here Mel. :toast

I see your point. Philly doesn't make a world of sense, but other teams make even less sense. I hadn't looked at the big picture.

An offer like that is definitely not out of the Hinkie playbook, but with him gone anything is possible.

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Originally Posted by UNT Eagles 2016

Spurs won that game by 1 point. Carmelo bulldozed into Manu at the buzzer for a driving layup but the call was an offensive foul against Melo (Manu drew the charge)... game over.

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Manu also made the previous basket to put us up by 1, some wicked layup...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_aMVGjfxgU

Here's a shitty quality recap of that game:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydM9p6GSZww

Over the last 5 seasons, Manu has averaged about 22 minutes per game, and 58 games per season.
Last year, Manu averaged 19.6 minutes per game, and he played 58 games.
So Manu plays about 50% as much as a player who gets 31 minutes, and plays 74 games.
So an $18M contract for Manu would have been the equivalent of $36M for a starter.
Kevin Durant just signed for $27M per year - only 50% more than Manu allegedly got offered.
Durant played 2.3X as many minutes as Manu last year, but scored right at 4X as many points, brought down 4X as many rebounds, and had over 4X as many FTA's.

Manu's numbers still look pretty good, as long as he's playing 20 minutes a night, and 58 games a season. Try and play him 31 minutes a night, like a typical starter, and his production would go to shit in those later minutes because he'd be worn out. And he wouldn't last more than 40 games.

Manu is a half-time player at this point. It would take two if him to equal the minutes and production of one starter. So an $18M salary for Manu is the equivalent of $36M per year for a good starter - but not a starter of Durant's caliber, because he had WAY more than twice Manu's numbers.

So, no... an $18M salary for Manu is not perfectly reasonable. Even though Manu is still a very capable player in limited minutes, that would have been the single most idiotic contract of this whole crazy off-season. I know it got printed in newspapers, and it's probably true that he got that offer. But if you want to figure out who it was from, the easiest way is probably to try and figure out who has the absolute stupidest FO. That may be another argument in favor of Philly.

76ers force Spurs to pay for Manu Ginobili

https://sports.yahoo.com/video/76ers...222719167.html

Mel still got it

:hat

The power of deductive reasoning

Shows how dumb the Philly management is imo. If they end up under the salary floor, which is likely, the money they would have given Manu goes to the rest of the roster. Would they really take money away from the rest of their players just to give it to Manu for one year? That would be a giant fuck you to their players.

Mel knows things n' stuff :tu

Mel_13

The Tim Duncan of this board.

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Originally Posted by Seventyniner

Shows how dumb the Philly management is imo. If they end up under the salary floor, which is likely, the money they would have given Manu goes to the rest of the roster. Would they really take money away from the rest of their players just to give it to Manu for one year? That would be a giant fuck you to their players.

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Didn't stop Blazers from trading for Varejao at the trade deadline. Then waiving and stretching him, having a cap hit all the way to 2021.

Can't imagine the NBA, the other owners and the agents being happy with teams who purposely stay way below the salary floor and it will probably be addressed in the next CBA.

All these professional couch GMs. :lol

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Originally Posted by ElNono

Manu also made the previous basket to put us up by 1, some wicked layup...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_aMVGjfxgU

Here's a shitty quality recap of that game:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydM9p6GSZww

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McDyess was such a bum for us that season. Not quite DWorst status, but still...

but pop played him religiously