If he stops fouling, we may have something. Cheers to that!
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If he stops fouling, we may have something. Cheers to that!
I wouldn't be too optimistic, he could turn out to be another Jeff Ayres.Quote:
Originally Posted by K...
Unfortunately Timmy won't be there to dry his tears:Quote:
Originally Posted by ceperez
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If there is a team that can (and will) teach a player to stop fouling...it's the Spurs. Coaching staff is gonna be on his ass like white on rice in training camp.Quote:
Originally Posted by alpha_HaZE
He's a young player and has plenty of time to hone his game...I'm excited to see what he can do.
I hope I am wrong but that might be Livio... and I do hope he proves me wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by ceperez
I'll be honest & admit I haven't seen any Dedmon tape other than his highlights against Chicago, but other than jumping pretty high, his "athleticism" doesn't really stand out. He doesn't seem to be decisive in his footwork... i guess I'll have to look at more film on him
In three years he has already logged almost as many minutes as Ayres has in 6.Quote:
Originally Posted by ceperez
Bigger
Rebounds at a higher per 36 rate
So a lot of reasons to think he will be better-
That said- it still doesn't guarantee him to be a rotation player...
http://www.basketball-reference.com/..._id2=pendeje02
he will be in the rotation and make solid, much needed contributions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maddog
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Dedmon absolutely MUST be a rotation player for the Spurs to be successful - and not just a fringe rotation player, but one who logs 15-20 effective minutes per game. He will be crucial to the Spurs' playoff success.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maddog
a dedmon injury would spell trouble.
https://www.reddit.com/r/OrlandoMagi...yne_dedmon_oc/
It's a past review from an orlando magic fan of Dedmon's 14-15 season.
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Pros: Offensive efficiency: Dedmon shot an efficient 56% from the field, and shot 67% at the rim. A majority of his shots were dunks and putbacks. He could occasionally hit a jump shot, but it isn’t reliable or consistent enough to be a threat. That is something he needs to improve on in order to expand his offensive range.
Defense: Stellar defender, when not fouling. His defensive shot chart. An outstanding 47.7% opponent’s FG% is crazy good. Unfortunately he hasn’t had that many shots to go against, since his minutes were limited early in the year. Compare it to Rudy Gobert (almost 4x as many shots contested), who allowed 51% at the rim. If Dedmon can figure out how to defend without fouling, we could be looking at a legit rim protector to likely come off the bench (depending on the draft). He owns a team best defensive rating according to NBA.com/stats (98.5), but basketball reference lists his offesnive and defensive ratings at a much different number.
Rebounding: He averaged just 5 rebounds a game, but his per 36 and rebounding percentages are very good. Per 36 he is averaging 12.6 Rebounds/36, and has a very good DRB% of 24%, and total rebound % of 20. Compare that to one of the best rebounders in the league in Nik Vucevic, who gets 26% of defensive rebounds, and has a 18% total rebounding percentage. These are all adjusted stats and percentages, so obviously these will not translate perfectly, but it is a good indicator.
Cons:
Fouling: It’s a terrible issue that plagued Kyle O’Quinn, and he has lost significant minutes in the rotation because of it (and other reasons). He averaged 6 fouls per 36 minutes, which is an incredibly high rate. It must be fixed in order for him to achieve his defensive potential. From watching, it seems a lot of his fouls come from trying too hard on blocks. According to NBASavant.com, 61 of his fouls this year came on shooting fouls, which was the highest category for him (compared to personal, loose ball, 3 second, etc).
Shooting: Doesn’t really offer a lot outside of dunks and putbacks. Needs to add more versatility.
Turnovers: 21% turnover percentage, and can occasionally try too hard on the offensive end with playmaking. Makes a lot of unnecessarily flashy passes that go straight out of bounds. Also gets a ton of offensive fouls. I would imagine moving picks are a good amount of them.
Overall: I see DeWayne Dedmon evolving into a Tyson Chandler-esque player. Both make a living on dunks, and do not have versatile offensive games. Chandler is still a well above average defensive center, and if Dedmon can come close to Chandler’s success, the Magic will have found a real steal. Here is a comparison of their careers, Dedmon’s 2 seasons, and Chandler’s first few, when he was still adjusting to the NBA and fouling a lot.. Could also be a better defender version of Brandan Wright. Wright plays well off of P&R, but I haven't seen the Magic run P&R with Dedmon very often. Offensively, Wright and Dedmon could be comparable, but defensively Dedmon has a big advantage.
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The Magic’s defense improved dramatically with a leaper like Dedmon patrolling the paint.
“He changed the game for us defensively,” Borrego said. “But still in a very young, raw way. He was still learning the game.”
So green was Dedmon in Orlando that he didn’t know what he didn’t know.
“He had to learn what a pick and roll was,” Borrego said.
:wow:depressedQuote:
Originally Posted by SAGirl
As expected, the guy is a project. Sheesh, consider how complex the Spurs offense and defense are, I just don't see how he can even stay on the court come playoff time! You just never know when somebody gets so overwhelmed and basically quit and give up. Spurs players have to be tough mentally and you just don't know if Dedmon has it.Quote:
Originally Posted by SAGirl
:pop: ' He's like Bruce Bowen'
http://news4sanantonio.com/sports/sp...to-bruce-bowen
LMAO Pop trying to bait ST :lol
Loved his defensive energy out there vs Warriors. That is the best I have seen him as a Spur. I hope he keeps it up. The Spurs need that mobile defense. Get it done Dedmon!!!
The name of this church would be perfect if he does in fact become the lockdown defender he has the physical tools to be. LOL!!!
dedmon looked good the other night. having him in the rotation of bigs this season gives the spurs the flexibility they lacked last season. gasol can be there against teams like the thunder and dedmon can be thrown in against teams with smaller and quicker lineups.
Offensively he didn't play that well, but defensively I thought he played very good. Loved his energy and activity :king
agreed. and really, there was no need for him to be contributing offensively. he was the perfect compliment to aldridge.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDoctor
Now that I've seen how effectively a low basketball IQ player like Dedmon can play with the Spurs, waiving LJC may have not been the wisest of moves. I don't know who Laprovitolla can even get in the court with both Parker and Mills playing well.
Another shit take from ceperez. LJC sucks and brought nothing to the team. Not to mention he's physically weak and was being pushed around like a child every time he stepped on the floor.
People were ready to crucify the guy so early , it's funny. He was quite good in the opener, and hopefully he continues to improve.
Dedmon was great against GSW. Briliant and fast switches...really challenged the twinkd when he was switched to the perimeter.
He got his dunked blocked by the rim though. :lol
Exactly. Last night watching the HOU/LAL game, just imagined Clint Capela instead of Dedmon? Damn the possibilities.Quote:
Originally Posted by rjv