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In all seriousness, I see that potential in Kawhi. He's had a great example of quiet leadership to learn from over the last 4 years. All he has to do is be his hardworking self and others will fall in line. It also helps that he has Pop and the veterans like Tony, Manu and Pau to help set the tone. Looking forward to his growth as a leader.
Love Kawhi but like others have said on here, he has to be a leader. He can't be the quiet "yes man" all the time, especially if Pop has one of his brain farts.
Cart before the horse; Bonner is not gone yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by spursistan
I'm not worried about Kawhi. He did everything humanly possible to keep us in the thunder series, and had no help from anyone else. As much as I have loved Parker in the past he is part of the problem between his pay and his play. He would be more valuable as a 6th man at this point. I agree with Harlem. We're not going anywhere until we have another star next to Kawhi.
We haven't won a championship since the torch was passed to Kawhi. The torch hasn't been passed it's been extinguished.
What shtick? I hope you don't mean "anti-Parker", considering I just spent an entire season defending him and have barely said anything negative about him in like a year:lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Hoops Czar
Well said. And with a new crop of recruits.. they will look up to Kawhi too.Quote:
Originally Posted by AFBlue
Back to back DPOY, a finals MVP.. holding Curry and Lebron in check a few time in the last couple years.
And such a relentless worker, that seems humble and over himself.
That's a guy you can follow, because he's looking to a level you can't even see yet.
Lottery bound.
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Originally Posted by LongtimeSpursFan
Pop/RC need to go...:wakeupQuote:
Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37
it hasn't - spurs have tried to give it to him. but he won't take control - just like lma - which is why manu is back.
KL and LMA are big time butt-cheek clinchers when it matters.
He has yet to hit his prime, maybe in two/three seasons.Quote:
Originally Posted by cd98
But also, he has to beat a superteam in the West to reach the Finals. It will be hard and next to impossible for Kawhi to beat them with Spurs' current roster.
That's not what a leader says. The leader raises everyone's confidence to his level, makes everyone play better than they are without him and always believes in his teammates and himself that they can win.Quote:
Originally Posted by YGWHI
I know Kawhi already sets an example with his play but he, or somebody else, will need to do more. I think Pop had Kawhi in mind when he said that's not for everybody.
Among the young guys, we have to watch the chemistry. I believe mentoring this generation of Spurs is why Manu was so important for and RC specifically mentioned it, but Manu will sit games and it's not on him anymore. I think they are waiting to see how the chemistry and the locker room develops.
But that's what I say. And trust me, I don't want to be a baller nor the Spurs leader. I don't want to be anything but a realistic fan.Quote:
Originally Posted by SAGirl
Again. I can't see the Spurs beating the Warriors in playoffs or playing in the Finals with their current roster, or before 2018/19 when Kawhi should start hitting his prime.
Do you think otherwise? Good for you. :tu
Tim carried a very oddball of a team in 2003. It was long b4 I followed the Spurs, but guys got to believe in themselves and their team. Spurs have defeated some formidable teams in the past, and Kawhi is far from having a craptastic team. I hope he doesn't share your view or any of the Spurs leaders for that matter. Winning is not guaranteed, and is difficult no matter what in any season, but you can't go into it thinking you have no chance as a player. This thread was about leadership and truth be told, we don't know if Kawhi will step up in the leadership department.Quote:
Originally Posted by YGWHI
Neither I would say he has a balanced team.Quote:
Originally Posted by SAGirl
-Spurs' best guards are 34/39 years old guys playing against elite, younger, faster, guards in the West.
-Spurs' best shooters can't hit an ocean in their season-long slumps.
-The bench have a bunch of rookies/sophomores, who we don't even know if they are NBA players.
-They will play a guy out of position to rebound and defend in the paint. And we saw last year how bad it was.
-The coach who sacrificed depth to sign starts is the same coach who refuses to play those starts more minutes to compesate for the lack of depth.
It doesn't matter with the current roster in a transition year like next season.Quote:
This thread was about leadership and truth be told, we don't know if Kawhi will step up in the leadership department.
However, I can see him stepping up in that department when he reaches his full potential in two or three seasons. Because when a guy starts to hitting his prime, he's comfortable with himself as player, the highest level of maturity required to be a positive leader.
Also, I don't like to talk about the private life of players, but he has new important responsibilities in his life. That will help him to become more empathetic, way more in tune with his teammates in the next years.
You make some good points and in a way its a shame that I think neither you nor I have too much faith in Pop at this point.Quote:
Originally Posted by YGWHI
On the one hand, will he play the stars the time required and will he use them optimally? I don't know. On the other, is he really committed to developing? Much as old timers say the Spurs are not a developing team, they have no choice at this point. Truth be told I don't think Spurs will have the best chance (as opposed to no chance) as a team until the youngest members of the team step up, which should coincide with Kawhi's best years. Dijon, Kyle and Bertans need to become players and Simmons has to show if he will stick around or not. Maybe it doesn't come together this season as Dijon specially is so young, but unless these guys step up the team is probably going to look like they are one piece away or something, probably at the guard spots. I just look forward to a good season, and specially how the young bench develops. Manu may be on his own farewell tour after all.
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Right you were BatManu20, not even trolling with this one:Quote:
Originally Posted by BatManu20
http://www.expressnews.com/sports/sp...witter-premium
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With Tim Duncan gone and 15 seasons under his belt, Parker is now the senior Spur in terms of longevity with the team and eager to take on an increased leadership role in the absence of the “Big Fundamental.”
“I’m just going to try to be a good leader and welcome all the new guys,” Parker, 34, said Tuesday. “I’m going to try to help them as much as I can and just show them the Spurs culture and what we do here.”
In making his first public comments in San Antonio since Duncan retired this month after 19 seasons, Parker stressed that despite that monumental loss and an influx of young newcomers, the Spurs “are still going to have a great team.”
Considering Kawhi's reserved nature he's probably relieved. He will have to step up at some point though.
No one knows who the leader of teams are except the guys in the locker room. Ideally, i think coaches would love the best player to be the leader, but that's not always how it works.
I'm not worried about leadership on this team. Tony and Manu are still around. Pau and LMA are both veterans. Kawhi and Green have been raised in the Spurs culture. Pop is still there.
The time to wonder about leadership will be when Tony/Manu/Pop are gone.
For now the biggest transition will be just getting used to not having Timmy there, not so much from a leadership perspective, but just for the fact that he's been there 19 years.
Spurs should leave an unoccupied chair representing Tim at every game, if someone plans to sit there everybody must yell ¨THATS TIMMY´S CHAIR¨
Thats leadership.