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The Spurs and Manu Ginobili are discussing a one-year deal in the $10 million range, according to league sources
https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/st...50048211095552
Not even worth half of that.
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@ESPNSteinLine
The Spurs and Manu Ginobili are discussing a one-year deal in the $10 million range, according to league sources
https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/st...50048211095552
Not even worth half of that.
Overpaid as fuck
Thanks for taking one for the team Manu....just hit up Men's Wearhouse as you'll need a few suits to be an assistant coach in the NBA.
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Originally Posted by Beaverfuzz
$5 million is what, just under 6% of the cap? Manu is definitely worth half of $10 million :lol
I mean yeah, $10 million might be slightly overpaying him considering he likely won't be as good as he was last year, but it's still not a terrible contract given the current market. Besides, they're using his bird rights to go over the cap to sign him.
He deserves that like Timmy deserves 6 millions even if he won'T play
They gave up so much money when they were in their prime for the better of the team, and that's how the Spurs work
$10M is Iman Shumpert money.
Agreed 100% - both Tim and Manu have given so much and sacrificed more than most players. Now, ask Parker to give up something - "fat" chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by From Downtown
Manu Ginobili 2016 playoffs:Quote:
Originally Posted by SpursFan86
6.7ppg, 2.7rpg, 2.5apg, 42.6FG%
Oh, man.... If Manu won't be as good as THAT.....
:lol Spurs
Yep, or hell a few rookies who want to break into the NBA. Just because this salary cap jumped doesn't mean everyone should be paid more...that's a moronic excuse.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solid D
You want to reward Manu? "Give" him 1% ownership of the team.
But now you suck on the teet to drain as much out as you can?Quote:
Originally Posted by From Downtown
Yeah, Manure sacrificed so much....Quote:
Originally Posted by mbass
Spurs were paying him $14,000,000 in 2013 when he blew the finals for the team. Some say he's still turning the ball over in Miami.
Manu carried a 17.9 Player Efficiency last season. He can still play and lead a team that needs additional leadership with Timmy retired.
Parker took a very team-friendly contract before this one so that the team could keep the Big 3 together. The team took care of him with this contract just like they are taking Manu and just like they waived Tim so that he could be paid the $6 million. Just the Spurs taking care of their players.Quote:
Originally Posted by mbass
Good for Manu. He's always been a great teammate and player for us.
I'm good with this. Welcome to the new cap and he has sacrificed in the past. He will be a great guy to have around and can still be effective
I seem to remember Bruce Bowen getting a nice farewell contract after he was well past his prime as well.
Slightly overpaid but it's a lockeroom leader/mentor value contract. I think 8M would have been the balanced to keep some of the haters hush in here. But because it got into 7 digits they'll go apeshit...
lol, new cap. Just because the cap is increased doesn't mean player's contracts automatically increase. Absolute stupidity.
Worth every cent. Looking forward to seeing Manu play. Manuuuuu!!!
It's quite pathetic that this has to even be explained to people. If he is slightly overpaid this year, who cares. Glad he came back so that we don't have a brain drain all in one season.Quote:
Originally Posted by From Downtown
Does it even matter what Manu gets paid because we are over the cap ? :lol
Again, I'd love this a lot more if it were a $20M/2 deal with that second season being non-guaranteed.
the medal of loyalty has two sides ...
Too much but since it didn't affect other FA signings I really don't care. Manu deserved every penny he got from San Antonio.
Congrats Nono btw :lol
If they want to give it to him. Take it. Offseason moves are basically done anyway.
I think Manu's contribution will be bigger in the locker room and behind the scenes than on the court this year. And he'll be needed.
This is the biggest discount we could give the organization, tbh, considering they're family...
We're just going to have to make do with only 3 chauffeurs to take the kids to school, but we'll adjust.
You're all welcome, btw...
Holy shit. Let the guy walk and go play for Denver-
http://www.faskemusic.com/uploads/1/...59/6084393.jpg
TheGreatYacht personality hard at work grinding that axe with his buds.
Again, someone correct me if I'm wrong (I'm admittedly not extremely knowledgeable on these matters), but the amount Manu signs for has practically no effect on the Spurs' ability to go out and get other guys. They're already out of cap space regardless of what Manu signs for. I don't see why people would get so upset over this unless they're secretly paying Manu's salary or something.
I don't know if that's allowed in the CBA. I think the owners saw a slippery slope when what's his name did that for Magic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beaverfuzz
Mostly correct. Once the salary went past $5.5 Million or so, it didn't matter. But below that was a big deal. Between $2.9 Million and $5.5 Million mean the Spurs had a bit of extra cap space. $2.9 Million or less meant the Spurs have a butt-ton of cap space.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpursFan86
He's the Spurs best playing coach. Duncan and Boris are both gone remember!Quote:
Originally Posted by toki9
Eh...they are using up their cap space to sign everyone else and then signing Manu using Bird rights to go over cap. Sure they'll take a cap hit, but this isn't stopping them from adding another major player. No big deal.
I just don't get this new cap situation, tbh. :lol
Boban didn't have bird rights?Quote:
Originally Posted by cd98
I guess not... that was a dumb deal that Spurs staff spend so much effort training Boban only to have no rights to retain him.
Damn :lol
call it interest on an overdue loan
As much as I liked Boban, I am glad he is gone. He isn't going to last long. You can tell that his body isn't going to hold up. He was a fun garbage time novelty act but I would much rather have someone that can move and doesn't look like it hurts them to run the court.Quote:
Originally Posted by ceperez
With Duncan leaving Ginobili will be the de facto leader. This contract is pricey if we're just looking at on court contributions but considering his role in the locker room it's fine. 2013 Finals were a disaster but he's recovered from that.
I think we all have a distorted view of reality because of how much Duncan sacrificed but it speaks more to the greatness of Duncan rather than the perceived "greed" of Ginobili. This year his role will be the most important of his career with Duncan gone. Sure they could've gone through that PR nightmare like the Heat with Wade but why? The Spurs are still in contention.
Even if it isn't a loyalty payment. Worth every penny.
I'm glad Manu is back. I wouldn't want to see the Spurs lose both Tim and Manu in the same offseason.
How many of you calling him overpaid would have branded him a traitor for going elsewhere to get paid his market value when he was in his prime? He sacrificed money and his health to help win 4 rings.
Manu is worth $10 mil a year easily. Glad he's coming back, Ginobili and Parker will now have to assume a huge leadership, teaching role as the vets.
Good for him! He has sacrificed for his entire career, he deserves everything he gets. Just like Tony and Timmy. Best big three of all time. ALL of them took pay cuts throughout their careers.
it's a loyalty check. kinda moronic to not see that, kinda moronic to think he doesn't deserve itQuote:
Originally Posted by Beaverfuzz
I get this argument. In fact, I used to support it. But after thinking about it, no team really owes its players that do that. They are giving up $ so they can get a ring. A lot of $. But if the ring wasn't important to them, they wouldn't do it. I'm not sure that they're owed anything other than respect.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oh, Gee!!
We all have to make these choices. Take a job for more money or maybe stay in a better work environment. But most people at the end of their careers don't expect a pay bump just because they did turn down bigger money elsewhere.
:lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Solid D
What would you backseat GMs use the extra $5m or so that Ginobili took to have made a dent in the GSW conference title prospects in 2017?
Parker only earns 3-4M more than this dude when TP is clearly twice as talented? Smh MVParker always taking discounts for the team. Spurs better pay him back with a loyalty contract once his current one expires.
B-b-but that shouldn't apply to Parker because ... well, because we just don't like him.Quote:
Originally Posted by buttsR4rebounding
-- Spurstalk lunatics
It literally doesn't matter whether he made $7, $10 or $15 million as long as he was making more than his cap hold. Didn't impact ability to sign free agents.
Give me Manu and Dedmon 10x out of 10 over matching Boban.
Sounds like an assistant coach to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by toki9
Offer at a discount, with some considerations. Once he's retired, he's not bound to that CBA anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spurtacular
Not a traitor, that would have been smart negotiating by his agent. Your worth is really what someone ELSE will pay you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oh, Gee!!
Those numbers don't even describe how much demege he made, teams taking advantage on his game, not a playoff team type player anymore!Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht
I'm sure there's quite a few players who'd play for $5m that are the same position as Ginobili. They're out there.Quote:
Originally Posted by spurs1990
Keepin' it real just keepin' it real, tbh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keepin' it real
That ST double standard
Waiters and Rivers are licking their chops right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by kobyz
It's pretty bad that fans of other teams "get it" and ungrateful so-called Spurs fans don't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chillen
LOL Pop and his thank-you contracts.
They're thanking him for taking peanuts leading up to this tbh
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Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht
How the fuck are you a Spurs fan? Seriously go bandwagon a team, I know it's in you.
He turned down bigger money again this year, I heard.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpursforSix
Manu once again taking a pay cut. Such a GOAT player :worthy::worthy::worthy:
To be fair, parkers contract takes up consequential cap space, whereas Manu isn't. So not apples to apples
He´s worth a lot more, he was offered like 19 million from Denver or whatever
That's a great zinger.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht
They are giving him a well deserved thank you or farewell retirement money. He earned it. Long live 2005. Kyle getting over a million is what is truly despicable.
this offseason is shit
appreciate it :toastQuote:
Originally Posted by Capt Bringdown
This.Quote:
Originally Posted by peacemaker885
10m is nothing in the new cap..
Manu fans really are the worst, so selfish and lack dignity!
...because threatening to take your own life is such a dignified act.Quote:
Originally Posted by kobyz
:lolQuote:
Originally Posted by benefactor
What is your reasoning here?Quote:
Originally Posted by Chinook
IMO Manu is on borrowed time. He had a good season but so did Tim in 2015. At his age he might fall off a cliff with a musculoskeletal injury of some type and go the Timmy route. He was already due 3 mill if he retired like Tim so this is Manu for 7 mill this season. He's fine in this market. But as the years pile on, frankly who knows?
14 mill for manu!?!?
One year, 14 million
Manure fans bitching about Parker's 14M only to defend their boy making the same $$$ :lmao
What a selfish POS
:lol
Get yo money manu. I don't consider this a discount by the way. :lmao
In a related move, the Spurs have deducted 9 million dollars from Tony Parker's pay....just because.
I don't know if y'all knew this....
but last time Manu earned $14,000,000 he turned the ball over 8 times in Game 6 of the 2013 finals. He couldn't have picked $13,999,999 or something??? :lol
Tony Porker was making 16mil when the cap was 66 mil.
Manu making 10 when its 95 or something. Huge difference. And Tony is more washed up than Manu at this point.
So you're saying we win the chip next year? :lobt2:Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht
Thanks Manu. :toast
Wow $14 mill...... I do think Manu was about to pull a Wade TBH and really leave wherever. :downspin:
He'd've been a good trade piece during the draft next June. But of course, he gets $14M/1Quote:
Originally Posted by SAGirl
Given that there is a price floor you couldn't be more wrong. They gave away $113m for nothing last year because they didn't pay up to 90% of the cap. They are getting something for theeir money this time around.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beaverfuzz
Any mods wanna edit the thread title? :lol
Uh, we lost the ship that year. Wtf are you talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by dabom
That was the same year Kawhi had 'the face'... Show it to him @KoolBobLove
Reminds me when they gave AJ $7m back in 2000.
He wants to change the trend :toastQuote:
Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht
I meant to say the 2nd season. :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht
GTFO. You've got to be kidding me? :vomit:
Oh okay :lol maybe you're right, since this most likely means Manure is out after this yearQuote:
Originally Posted by dabom
Thank god
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Originally Posted by From Downtown
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Originally Posted by From Downtown
Are you saying it'll be 9 turnovers this time? :wow
$14M?
Get your money Manu. This is definitely the last ride.
:lolQuote:
Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht
TheCapDoesNotTakeAHit!TheCapDoesNotTakeAHit!TheCap DoesNotTakeAHit!TheCapDoesNotTakeAHit!TheCapDoesNo tTakeAHit!TheCapDoesNotTakeAHit!TheCapDoesNotTakeA Hit!TheCapDoesNotTakeAHit!
It was always going to be upwards to 15 million. It was the right thing to do and almost the only thing to do.
Has to be. Seems excessive even in this market.Quote:
Originally Posted by BatManu20
he deserves much