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We STACKKKKKED! :lol
Cuban wants a cabinet position.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reck
Cuban not loyal to team that won title and she not loyal to America
Two peas in a pond
So he dresses better for his TV show than for his choice as President? And FUCK batman
Superman rules.
Different types of "business" shows created jealousy would not surprise me.
Although I think Cuban is far brighter.
That's aiming too high.Quote:
Originally Posted by DMX7
Cuban is not as smart as he thinks he is.
Siding with the bitch (Queen Pantsuit) is pretty typical for him. He's jealous of the attention Trump is getting and wishes he had tried to do what the Donald is doing.
Cuban's wealth was derived from a single idea that another firm overpaid for (broadcast.com). He is rich ahole who craves attention.
The only reasons his team won that single fluke title is OKC failed Tyson Chandler on a physical and Grant Hill broke Manu's elbow.
BTW, what a bunch of losers standing behind him.
All Cuban cares about is Wall Street not tanking the morning after the election, tbh... in light of that, his pick makes perfect sense.
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Originally Posted by Reck
Trump: We StacKKKed!
Cuban is wanting attention and support
He things trump is doing this just for his businesses to get better
He does not understand the time and comment to run for office
A+ Hate lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Harry Callahan
I could see Cuban running in 2024.
It was mentioned on a bill simmons podcast. He may be preparing now
Affirmative. People like Cuban and Zuckerberg got lucky at the end of the day. Beneficiaries of a massive tech bubble whose fortunes could disappear overnight with the stroke of a key. To build a multi billion $$$ real estate empire from a $10 million inheritance is something both lack the intelligence and fortitude to do. They're not fit to shine the Don's shoes and they know it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Harry Callahan
:lmao Trump inherited a fortune and went bankrupt multiple times.Quote:
Originally Posted by spankadelphia
Two Billionaires worth more than Cuckald endorsing Hillary :wow
Who does Trump even have nowadays?!? That ship is sinking FAST
And doesn't that give you all food for thought - that all the rich people are supporting Hillary and the blue collar, non-college middle class is supporting Trump?Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht
Hedge-Fund Money: $48.5 Million for Hillary Clinton, $19,000 for Donald Trump
http://www.wsj.com/articles/hedge-fu...ump-1469784601
LOL at the comments.
Rich people have a lot more to lose if the person holding the most powerful office in the world is a buffoon.
Sure, that's the reason - LOL. It's mightn't be that Clinton can be bought but Trump can't?Quote:
Originally Posted by Spurminator
It mightn't necessarily be that, no. Trump just mightn't be great for the global economy because he mightn't know what the fuck he's doing once he gets elected.Quote:
Originally Posted by rmt
Clinton may be the establishment pick, but that doesn't mean the other option is automatically better. And just because Trump's not getting the support of other billionaires right now doesn't mean he can't be bought later.
:lol exactly. I know a lot of yall (including dems) think everything Bernie said during the primary equates to flying unicorn rainbow shit, but he was telling you the truth about Her really, seriously looking out for her homies in the financial sector.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
rtm, if you go look at a post someone made on the Trump thread you will see a link where he wanted a meeting with the Koch brothers. When they turned him down he threw a fit and went straight to Twitter to denounce them. LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by rmt
You are a fool if you think Trump hasn't hit up all the major players for money. He has. They've just been turning him down because he's a disaster.
Trump essentially lost all mainstream "conservative" (trololololo) support when he took a hard line stance against the various trade agreements.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reck
Marco Rubio, establishment darling and one of the republican's pretty boys, had the balls to say unflinchingly during a debate that the american worker needs to be able to compete with the rest of the globe. What kind of fucked off conservatism is that? Once upon a time conservatives could be counted on for isolationism and a house full of Made in America stickers. They didnt just distrust commies, they wanted to wipe them out. They didnt export jobs, they created them by expanding here in the USA.
Fuck neoconservatives and neoliberals both. They are basically the same party.
Absolutely.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spurminator
I mean, if the tables were turned and it was Donald Rumsfeld (R) against Rosie O'Donnell (D), who do you think the money would be going to? Would that influence your vote?
Both sides are in the pockets of the donors - neither side is doing what is good for the American worker. No one was saying anything about the trade deals until Bernie and Trump. Jeff Sessions, who was previously for TPP, has changed his mind so hopefully more senators/representatives will come around.Quote:
Originally Posted by z0sa
Do you think the money would be going toward whoever was preaching closing up our borders (ending the donors' cheap labor) and changing the trade deals that favor the donors and move our jobs out of the country? You guys want to make it all about Trump's personality and disregard the good his policies would do for the American worker. Instead, you'd rather back Clinton and her known ties to Wall Street, etc. to the detriment of Americans.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spurminator
I hope Trump eviscerates Hillary on TPP and NAFTA. For me, that is the biggest issue of this election. I dont want flipflopping and excuses: no matter who wins, i need a strong NO to TPP at bare minimum. I will literally vote for whichever candidate opposes TPP more fiercely when the issue is posed on debate night(s).Quote:
Originally Posted by rmt
Trump is a hypocrite at bare minimum. It will be easy to counter the point where he would tear into Hillary for being for TPP. She will call bullshit on him based on the fact he outsources his own jobs overseas, has his clothes and product made overseas.Quote:
Originally Posted by z0sa
Imo being a flip flopper (Hillary now says she's against TPP) is better than actually doing everything you say you are against which Trump absolutely is.
I can't make sense of someone who says they're against TPP but at the same time does exactly what the trans pacific partnership is all about. So which is it Trump?
This is why I think this is not an effective attack if I'm Trump. Easy to rebuke.
And when it was Bernie vs Hillary, who did the money go to? Did the money go to the more honest, upstanding candidate? Nope - clearly the donors don't want anyone messing with the trade deals that benefit them. They want Hillary who will continue to do their bidding - not a candidate funded by the little person (or self-funding, in Trump's case).
It doesn't matter to you that people have pointed out--prove that Trump self finding his campaign is just a myth.Quote:
Originally Posted by rmt
He didn't self funded his primary campaign and he sure as fuck not going to self fund his general election campaign where he's looking at spending at least a couple of hundred millions.
As an independent, I hope he does bring it up, and I hope he does get rebuked. That is how we move forward and bring light to the real problems. In this case, literally every business owner or stockholder in America who supports exporting jobs in the name of the bottom line needs to feel the heat. It should be a taboo. I understand it wont be changed overnight, but it has to start somewhere sometime.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reck
Regardless, both of them should feel stupid and untrusted, because by and large that is what most Americans (at least to some degree) think of them. They are the two most unpopular candidates in history for a reason.
At this point, I'm all for Bernie and Ted running as independents and let the chips fall where they may....
Please show me a link where Trump's primary was different from Bernie's financially except for spending more of his own money than Bernie did. Trump never was going to self-fund the general election campaign - what you expect him to match Hillary's $2billion when most of his assets are in illiquid real estate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reck
Ay ay ay. Here we go again.Quote:
Originally Posted by rmt
Trump gave himself a loan and passed it as self funding. He is expected to get most of that money he ponied up back.
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It’s worth noting a couple more caveats. First, Trump’s self-financing only really picked up in the last three months of 2015. From the start of his campaign in April through October last year, individual contributions made up about 67 percent of total money raised for his campaign.
Other media outlets who looked at this claim before the most recent FEC filings concluded that Trump’s claim was inaccurate because, at the time, most of his funding was coming from individual contributions.
But in the last quarter, Trump gave his campaign a $10.8 million loan, turning that balance around.
That brings us to the second caveat: The vast majority of Trump’s contributions to his own campaign — about $12.6 million — are loans rather than donations. This means he could expect to eventually recoup these funds.
Further, of the approximately $12 million Trump’s campaign spent in 2015, about $2.7 million went toward reimbursing Trump-affiliated companies for services provided to the campaign, such as traveling in his own plane and helicopter, according to a New York Times analysis.
Furthermore..Trump has SuperPacs. They dont contribute as much but..
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...campaign-sort/
Organization Pro/Against Type Total Raised Make America Great Again PAC Pro-Trump SuperPAC $1,742,684 Patriots for Trump Pro-Trump SuperPAC $131,623 Bring Back American Opportunity Pro-Trump SuperPAC $179 Americans for Greatness Pro-Trump SuperPAC $0 Committee to Restore America's Greatness Pro-Trump SuperPAC $500,093 American National Trump SuperPAC Pro-Trump SuperPAC $12,966 Our Principles PAC Anti-Trump SuperPAC $19,006,033 Crippled America Pro-Trump SuperPAC $12,677 Great America PAC Pro-Trump SuperPAC $5,073,027 NeverTrump PAC Anti-Trump SuperPAC $307,545 Dump Terrifying Rhetoric Undermine Mainstream Poli Anti-Trump SuperPAC $0 Trump Victory Pro-Trump PAC $64,971 Committee for American Sovereignty Pro-Trump SuperPAC $45,435 Rebuilding America Now Pro-Trump SuperPAC $2,160,450 TrumPAC Pro-Trump SuperPAC $0 Make America Great Pro-Trump SuperPAC $0 HC4DT Pro-Trump SuperPAC $0 Trumpet! PAC Pro-Trump SuperPAC $0 America's Trump Card SuperPAC Pro-Trump SuperPAC $0 Let's Trump Politics Pro-Trump SuperPAC $0 Trump USA Super PAC Pro-Trump SuperPAC $0 TuckFrump.com Anti-Trump SuperPAC $0 Make America Great Again Pro-Trump 501c4 $0 Women Vote Trump Pro-Trump SuperPAC $0 Donald J Trump for President Pro-Trump Campaign $88,997,986
https://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/c...p?id=N00023864
Tall tale, as I said.
Closing the borders is not a position that is unique to Donald Trump. Other GOP politicians have preached that position and done fine with donors. Same with "moving the jobs back."Quote:
Originally Posted by rmt
Money is not flowing his way because people who have something to lose know he will be a disaster.
Where exactly do you expect him to get the money to pay back the loans he has loaned himself? And do you think that he should not make use of his own property, facilities, plane, etc for his campaign? He should instead of using his own ballroom at Doral, rent out a similar facility or instead of using his own jet, fly commercial? I see that as running a lean, mean campaign and using good business sense. And what exactly is wrong with donations from small donors - you knock Trump for people sending him donations but not Bernie? I can tell you that he did not start soliciting donations until well after the primaries - June 17 (iirc) and even then most of his solicitations are with matches from him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reck
Trump announced his candidacy on June 16, 2015 so I don't see how this article can say he started his campaign in April. And you don't list when these SuperPacs started (before or after the primaries) - not that it matters as he has denounced SuperPacs, and I don't think he has any real control over them.
Hey I just provided you with proof backed by links and facts that he didn't just self funded his primary campaign out of the goodness of his heart. If you cant cope with the fact, dont look at me.Quote:
Originally Posted by rmt
Add Bloomberg and Buffett to the Clinton train :wow
Winners sticking together tbh
I guess you really want Congress selecting Cruz in January.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nbadan
no, running away from Trash.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht
Winners stick together to enrich/protect/empower themselves to screw the non-winners.
yep.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spurminator
Let's make murica great!!!!
Amen. I am not officially a Independent. I'm a Democrat, non party loyalist.Quote:
Originally Posted by z0sa
If trump was a Democrat, i would not vote for him.
I do not love Hilary as a candidate if she was Republican I would vote for her if Trump were a Democrat.
I thought Bernie has some great ideas but he would have been just as unsuccessful as Obama at implementing them.
This for me is choosing between bad and worse so I choose bad, and side with Hilary.
Trump has 3 months to change my mind. But based on his antics and temperament I dont see it.
He had the lead after RNC and squandered it away with dumb comments ...
I really dont see how anyone can trust this clown. He cant even hold on to a lead in the polls by taking the higher road.