Article: Ginobili heard all summer how he should have been finals MVP

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Originally Posted by ducks

no duncan no finals
spurs would have been to finals without manu!

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Yeah, right, probably Hedo Turkoglu or Brent Barry would have created plays when the Nuggets, Sonics and Pistons played tough defense.

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Originally Posted by Manu'sMagicalLeftHand

So there you go...you can't find what Manu brings at his price. Jeez, I can't believe we are still arguing about this. The guy finished with one of the highest Efficiency ratings per minute played in the Playoffs, he was the team's top scorer in many games (with an insane FG% for a Guard), played awesome defense, made clutch plays, created points in critical moments when no one else was hitting a jumper. And he even accepted coming from the bench.

Seriously ducks, cut the crap, it's ok if you hate Manu, but at least bring a decent take. I don't know, talk about his hair, or go all-George Karlesque on us and complain about his flops, but you can't possibly argue what he meant for the Spurs winning the Larry O'Brien last season.

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so I hate manu because I do not think he was the finals mvp

I posted I wanted him to win it last year but I did not think he deserved it

if he won it he would get more calls this year!

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Originally Posted by ducks

remember, Manu's great but there are probably five or six players that could have taken Manu's place and gotten the Spurs a trophy.

picnroll gets it
we have a winner!

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yeah, five or six players, BUT NOT AT MANU'S SALARY!! Why is it so hard to grasp that concept??

no one is dissing Manu
even if he played 7 good games, which he didn't
he wasnt the MVP
it was Tim Duncan

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Originally Posted by mookie2001

no one is dissing Manu
even if he played 7 good games, which he didn't
he wasnt the MVP
it was Tim Duncan

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what are u 5 yrs old? whats up w/the gay fonts?

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Originally Posted by ducks

so I hate manu because I do not think he was the finals mvp

I posted I wanted him to win it last year but I did not think he deserved it

if he won it he would get more calls this year!

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No, Ducks, stop playing stupid. You know this whole argument is about you not thinking Manu was crucial to last season's success, not about the MVP thing!

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Originally Posted by MaNuMaNiA

yeah, five or six players, BUT NOT AT MANU'S SALARY!! Why is it so hard to grasp that concept??

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Wade? Gotcha.

I'd say LeBron but then I'd have ducks on my back too. :lol

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Originally Posted by ducks

so I hate manu because I do not think he was the finals mvp

I posted I wanted him to win it last year but I did not think he deserved it

if he won it he would get more calls this year!

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remember this post?

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Originally Posted by ducks

horseshit

spurs would have won a title without manu

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maybe that's why ppl think u hate manu?

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Originally Posted by mookie2001

no one is dissing Manu
even if he played 7 good games, which he didn't
he wasnt the MVP
it was Tim Duncan

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WTF? christ, that is not what is being discussed here mookie, get with the program!

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Originally Posted by picnroll

Wade? Gotcha.

I'd say LeBron but then I'd have ducks on my back too. :lol

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pincroll, in order to get LeBron, we would have had to have a very high first round pick, I'm talking reality here, not imagining things.

i never post in the spurs forum anyone more because the people in here a bunch of lottery picks fools (not yall) and know next to nothing about basketball (maybe yall)
I'm trying to make my point and get out

No one is saying Manu is the only reason the Spurs are the Champs.

We are arguing about ducks statement that without Manu (someone who is easily replaced, hell, Stevie Francis would do a much better job, right?) the Spurs would have cruised through the playoffs. Read the Argentinians replies to this post, no one said "Manu was robbed, he's the MVP", they are responding to ducks claim that Manu is "just another player". Well, I'm sorry to inform you, but he's not, he's a difference maker.

To me, the MVP is just a media thingy, the important thing is that the Spurs have another ring. What upsets me is that ducks is saying that it's the same with or without Manu...he's talking about the 2nd. best player on this team.

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Originally Posted by mookie2001

i never post in the spurs forum anyone more because the people in here a bunch of lottery picks fools (not yall) and know next to nothing about basketball (maybe yall)
I'm trying to make my point and get out

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Oh, I'm sorry, thank you for showing us n00bs the light, you basketball god. Your takes have been very informative, even if you didn't understand what was being discussed.

manu was a big reason they won a title last year
however had they not had him duncan would have done more he is capable of doign more then what he did last year!

well Manu was a role player in 03 and we won...
we replaced him with a unproven unheard of steven jackson and won the title

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Originally Posted by Manu'sMagicalLeftHand

No one is saying Manu is the only reason the Spurs are the Champs.

We are arguing about ducks statement that without Manu (someone who is easily replaced, hell, Stevie Francis would do a much better job, right?) the Spurs would have cruised through the playoffs. Read the Argentinians replies to this post, no one said "Manu was robbed, he's the MVP", they are responding to ducks claim that Manu is "just another player". Well, I'm sorry to inform you, but he's not, he's a difference maker.

To me, the MVP is just a media thingy, the important thing is that the Spurs have another ring. What upsets me is that ducks is saying that it's the same with or without Manu...he's talking about the 2nd. best player on this team.

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ok so you basically backing out of this:

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Originally Posted by ducks

horseshit

spurs would have won a title without manu

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done deal :)

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Originally Posted by MaNuMaNiA

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I'm not a girl, bitch! :pctoss

:lol

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Originally Posted by MaNuMaNiA

pincroll, in order to get LeBron, we would have had to have a very high first round pick, I'm talking reality here, not imagining things.

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pistons had a very high draft pick when they picked darko

spurs could have traded for a high draft pick

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Originally Posted by MaNuMaNiA

pincroll, in order to get LeBron, we would have had to have a very high first round pick, I'm talking reality here, not imagining things.

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Who said anything about reality? Look I'm not arguing Manu's greatness. I 'm probably as big a Manu homer as any non-Argentinian can be. It's just you could swap Manu for Wade, Kobe, T Mac, and win. You can't take Shaq, put hhim on th Spurs and beat Detroit, same with KG.

But to show you how big a Manu homer I am I'd rather have him than Kobe, T Mac, Wade (although that ones tough). Not because I think he's better just that he exemplifies more what I like about the Spurs, intelligence, personality, mature and he's hella fun to watch.

But TD's MVP.

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Originally Posted by Manu'sMagicalLeftHand

I'm not a girl, bitch! :pctoss

:lol

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I know, but it don't work with "You go guy!" http://spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/smilol.gif

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Originally Posted by picnroll

Wade? Gotcha.

I'd say LeBron but then I'd have ducks on my back too. :lol

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wade
james
melo (maybe)


spurs could have won it all with had they not had manu



not sure with melo though

ducks you lost me at Melo.

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Originally Posted by ducks

wade
james
melo (maybe)


spurs could have won it all with had they not had manu



not sure with melo though

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So, the Spurs would have won it all with Lebron? Jeez, you are a walking contradiction...or maybe something is lost in translation?

"No Manu, no difference"
"Actually he was important last season"

-Insert one of your 10 million posts saying Lebron James sucks-
"With Lebron Spurs would have been Champs"