No interest in NBA season?

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Originally Posted by spurs10

You need to get an award or something!:toast

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Yeah and I will go to all Spurs games there too as always...so that could turn out to be quite ugly. At least Bonner is finally gone!

I can't really put this more eloquently, but if you're not interested and don't believe before even one game is played - Fuck off and stop pissing and moaning about it here. Go do something else and stop wasting your time and other people's time here bitching about it.

Spurs have a really good team with some very, very good players, and I won't take it for granted. So many fans of other teams don't have much to look forward to, and would absolutely love to have a team like this current Spurs team to go for, but I guess that isn't good enough for a lot of the people around here. Spurs have a chance, and really, that is all you can ask for. If you don't believe, fuck off. I'll never bow down to Goldenstate or any other team. You try your hardest to beat them, not buy into the hype and give it your best shot and see what happens. No one is unbeatable. A lot of teams lose the game mentally to teams like this before it's even played.

The NBA is just insignificant during the NFL season. It's a less exciting sport with no parity and a meaningless regular season. As always, the interest will increase once the SB is over.

High Interest. In some ways I'm looking forward to the slog of the season more this year than in the past.

Really excited to see the young guys get a chance; to see if the stash strategy actually leads to a meaningful pipeline of decent role players over the next 2 years; and the Shit or get off the pot situation on Anderson and Simmons this year.

Lukewarm in Dedmon. I just have the feeling he's a one year deal. He'll get the Spurs brand behind him and then seek a bigger pay day elsewhere. Happy to be wrong.

I still don't fully get the Pau/LMA fit to be honest, and lukewarm on the other signing like Davis Lee.

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Originally Posted by CGD

High Interest. In some ways I'm looking forward to the slog of the season more this year than in the past.

Really excited to see the young guys get a chance; to see if the stash strategy actually leads to a meaningful pipeline of decent role players over the next 2 years; and the Shit or get off the pot situation on Anderson and Simmons this year.

Lukewarm in Dedmon. I just have the feeling he's a one year deal. He'll get the Spurs brand behind him and then seek a bigger pay day elsewhere. Happy to be wrong.

I still don't fully get the Pau/LMA fit to be honest, and lukewarm on the other signing like Davis Lee.

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Exactly! I feel like i could actually watch Spurs games with you, sir. A lot of interesting stories will unfold this season. Go, Spurs, go! :toast

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Originally Posted by apalisoc_9

So be honest, how would basketball from the 60, 70, 80, 90 fare against todays atheletes and increasing level of skill play

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The biggest differences are the average level of athleticism is a greater and, of course, the advanced dribbling skills with both hands. Players can get away with carrying the ball and traveling today so that has allowed better separation for shots. Average height is greater and players are thicker and more muscular today. In fact, training regimens are much more advanced as are shooting mechanics instruction.

Racial mix shift from predominantly white to predominantly black or African American over time. As you must know, prejudice was so bad that whites and blacks in the same swimming pool together in the early-mid 60s was rarely seen. The Southwest Conference offered its first scholarship to an African American in 1965 (Jerry Levias) and that was in football. That began to change in the later 60s.

There were great shooters who could have scored in any era: ex. Jerry West, Jerry Lucas or Rick Barry in the 60s; Gervin in the 70s and 80s. Great leapers likewise: Johnny Green or Joe Caldwell in the 60s; David Thompson in the 70s and 80s. Bill Russell could defend and rebound in any era but he was a pretty awful dribbler by today's standards. Bob Cousy and Earl Monroe were ball-handling role models for future generations but would be more average today. Dribbling behind the back was considered to be showing-off by most coaches in the 60s. I got pulled out of a game for doing it (lol). Today, it's done almost without thinking as part of every player's skillset.

The game was much more polite in the 60s with no pounding on the chest, flexing muscles, etc. That was considered bad sportsmanship. Many in the 60s still adhered to the standard of raising one's hand when one had committed a foul. Also, time was not kept to the tenth or hundredth of a second in the 60s so the last minute of games were not managed the way they are today. The early 60s just had a moving hand analog clock, not digital. Because of this change, there is so much more strategy with fouls, clock stoppages and timeouts today than there was in the 60s.

The 80s showtime Lakers, 90s Bulls, the 00s Lakers and Spurs, and current Cavs would all dominate the Celtics of the 60s.

Now, the tough question is if any of the 90s Bulls teams could have beaten the 2014 Finals Spurs. Those eras are much closer together.

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Originally Posted by DeadlyDynasty

The NBA is just insignificant during the NFL season. It's a less exciting sport with no parity and a meaningless regular season. As always, the interest will increase once the SB is over.

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The NBA season in general feels insignificant midseason and when teams are starting to rest. It really only matters at the start of the season and the playoffs for most fans. 82 games is way to long for some fans to care about a game in january.

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Originally Posted by Solid D

The biggest differences are the average level of athleticism is a greater and, of course, the advanced dribbling skills with both hands. Players can get away with carrying the ball and traveling today so that has allowed better separation for shots. Average height is greater and players are thicker and more muscular today. In fact, training regimens are much more advanced as are shooting mechanics instruction.

Racial mix shift from predominantly white to predominantly black or African American over time. As you must know, prejudice was so bad that whites and blacks in the same swimming pool together in the early-mid 60s was rarely seen. The Southwest Conference offered its first scholarship to an African American in 1965 (Jerry Levias) and that was in football. That began to change in the later 60s.

There were great shooters who could have scored in any era: ex. Jerry West, Jerry Lucas or Rick Barry in the 60s; Gervin in the 70s and 80s. Great leapers likewise: Johnny Green or Joe Caldwell in the 60s; David Thompson in the 70s and 80s. Bill Russell could defend and rebound in any era but he was a pretty awful dribbler by today's standards. Bob Cousy and Earl Monroe were ball-handling role models for future generations but would be more average today. Dribbling behind the back was considered to be showing-off by most coaches in the 60s. I got pulled out of a game for doing it (lol). Today, it's done almost without thinking as part of every player's skillset.

The game was much more polite in the 60s with no pounding on the chest, flexing muscles, etc. That was considered bad sportsmanship. Many in the 60s still adhered to the standard of raising one's hand when one had committed a foul. Also, time was not kept to the tenth or hundredth of a second in the 60s so the last minute of games were not managed the way they are today. The early 60s just had a moving hand analog clock, not digital. Because of this change, there is so much more strategy with fouls, clock stoppages and timeouts today than there was in the 60s.

The 80s showtime Lakers, 90s Bulls, the 00s Lakers and Spurs, and current Cavs would all dominate the Celtics of the 60s.

Now, the tough question is if any of the 90s Bulls teams could have beaten the 2014 Finals Spurs. Those eras are much closer together.

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We got a dude here that lived through the 70s etc and here he is telling you how it is.

Very interested and excited about this season. I'm looking forward to the new set of young guns in Bertans and Murray, as well as the further development of Kawhi. It should be a great season. I'll miss TD like most, but not sure why some are thinking there's going to be a big drop off without him. I think the Spurs will win 60+ games.

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Originally Posted by Spurs9

Anyone else feeling no interest in this upcoming NBA season? After the weakest move in NBA history having Durrant join the warriors, it feels like a waste of time investing anything to watch games. How is the NBA going to try to sell games on a nightly basis, as if the finals aren't already pretty clear. Its going to be another season of nauseating games of golden state with the todays NBA 3 chuckers trying to "prove" people wrong and go for more 3 point records. Whos going to make the playoffs and seeding won't matter, the games won't mean anything. TNT pushing a Warriors/Houston Heat/NY double header games? The only variable that could change things would be injury. I've never watched football much in past years but have been getting into it alot more recently, at least there is some uncertainty of who can actually make it to the superbowl, you generally never can say fully at the start of a season who will get there. Much more variables to make it interesting to watch than todays NBA. I think the Spurs are the only constructed team in the west who have any chance against the Warriors and even at that I don't see them going past them in the playoffs. The league would have been much better off having some better measures with the cap increase over 1 season to keep the league more competitive and prevent teams for spending crazy money on scrubs and making those teams less competitive in the future because of the financial burden. Stern would have probably have managed it better as funny as it is to say that.

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What's up with the season is over before it starts talk? Unreal...that's a pussified attitude. I'm thinking you're a BOTTOM.

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Originally Posted by Solid D

Well, about 1962-63 (9) was when I started watching pro basketball, but back then, games weren't on all the time.

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Yeah, I know, but even if you only saw them once or twice or whatever, you still saw them.

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Originally Posted by Ice009

I can't really put this more eloquently, but if you're not interested and don't believe before even one game is played - Fuck off and stop pissing and moaning about it here. Go do something else and stop wasting your time and other people's time here bitching about it.

Spurs have a really good team with some very, very good players, and I won't take it for granted. So many fans of other teams don't have much to look forward to, and would absolutely love to have a team like this current Spurs team to go for, but I guess that isn't good enough for a lot of the people around here. Spurs have a chance, and really, that is all you can ask for. If you don't believe, fuck off. I'll never bow down to Goldenstate or any other team. You try your hardest to beat them, not buy into the hype and give it your best shot and see what happens. No one is unbeatable. A lot of teams lose the game mentally to teams like this before it's even played.

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So if you don't have blind faith, you're automatically "pissing and moaning"?

It's not that I'm not looking forward to it, will be any less a fan, or "worship Golden State" (I'm pretty sure you know I despise that shit), it's that I'm realistic about their limitations.

I've still yet to hear the legions of supposed believers give an actual reason(s) why they have a realistic chance.

I downgraded from full league to team package for League Pass. The Spurs as a collective are still very interesting to me.

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Originally Posted by DeadlyDynasty

The NBA is just insignificant during the NFL season. It's a less exciting sport with no parity and a meaningless regular season. As always, the interest will increase once the SB is over.

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Tbh, no parity and a meaningless regular season sounds a lot like the NFL of the Goodell era, too. Outside of a few one-year wonders, the NFL might as well not even exist outside of Foxboro, Denver, Pittsburgh, Baltimore, and Green Bay.

Disinterested? Kind of. Losing the best player of the last twenty years will do that to a fanbase.

That being said,I still love this team and look forward to future titles without #21.

Wouldn't it be awesome if somehow we sent Manu out a winner?

Also,fuck GSW. The choking bastards overcame every obstacle en route to a 73 win season,and a 7 game Finals only to lose to LeBron and his bitch made assemble mercenaries. Plus OKC beat us and then bent over and lost Durant to an even bigger bitch made team.

We lost Timmy,but we can still laugh at the way things played out.

if you have no interest in the upcoming nba season... THEN TRY NOT POSTING IN AN NBA FORUM.

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Originally Posted by TD 21

Yeah, I know, but even if you only saw them once or twice or whatever, you still saw them.




So if you don't have blind faith, you're automatically "pissing and moaning"?

It's not that I'm not looking forward to it, will be any less a fan, or "worship Golden State" (I'm pretty sure you know I despise that shit), it's that I'm realistic about their limitations.

I've still yet to hear the legions of supposed believers give an actual reason(s) why they have a realistic chance.

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It's not blind faith. Spurs have a chance to win it all. It might be a very small chance, but it's a chance. I mean, right now, before watching any games I'd put them at about 5-10%, but that's better than 90% of the other teams in the league. I don't understand what people around here are looking for.

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Originally Posted by Ice009

It's not blind faith. Spurs have a chance to win it all. It might be a very small chance, but it's a chance. I mean, right now, before watching any games I'd put them at about 5-10%, but that's better than 90% of the other teams in the league. I don't understand what people around here are looking for.

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By this logic, the Raptors, Celtics or whoever else you think has a legit chance to be in the ECF, is a contender.

I'm not "looking for" anything. I'm just saying, I don't think they're contenders.

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Originally Posted by Solid D

The biggest differences are the average level of athleticism is a greater and, of course, the advanced dribbling skills with both hands. Players can get away with carrying the ball and traveling today so that has allowed better separation for shots. Average height is greater and players are thicker and more muscular today. In fact, training regimens are much more advanced as are shooting mechanics instruction.

Racial mix shift from predominantly white to predominantly black or African American over time. As you must know, prejudice was so bad that whites and blacks in the same swimming pool together in the early-mid 60s was rarely seen. The Southwest Conference offered its first scholarship to an African American in 1965 (Jerry Levias) and that was in football. That began to change in the later 60s.

There were great shooters who could have scored in any era: ex. Jerry West, Jerry Lucas or Rick Barry in the 60s; Gervin in the 70s and 80s. Great leapers likewise: Johnny Green or Joe Caldwell in the 60s; David Thompson in the 70s and 80s. Bill Russell could defend and rebound in any era but he was a pretty awful dribbler by today's standards. Bob Cousy and Earl Monroe were ball-handling role models for future generations but would be more average today. Dribbling behind the back was considered to be showing-off by most coaches in the 60s. I got pulled out of a game for doing it (lol). Today, it's done almost without thinking as part of every player's skillset.

The game was much more polite in the 60s with no pounding on the chest, flexing muscles, etc. That was considered bad sportsmanship. Many in the 60s still adhered to the standard of raising one's hand when one had committed a foul. Also, time was not kept to the tenth or hundredth of a second in the 60s so the last minute of games were not managed the way they are today. The early 60s just had a moving hand analog clock, not digital. Because of this change, there is so much more strategy with fouls, clock stoppages and timeouts today than there was in the 60s.

The 80s showtime Lakers, 90s Bulls, the 00s Lakers and Spurs, and current Cavs would all dominate the Celtics of the 60s.

Now, the tough question is if any of the 90s Bulls teams could have beaten the 2014 Finals Spurs. Those eras are much closer together.

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You and I started watching the NBA at about the same time. The Sunday game of the week (only after the NFL season ended) almost always featured the Celtics - and I lived in Texas! Your assessment of the difference in eras, athleticism, training, etc. seems very objective to me. As an old schooler, I rue all of the flexing, and strutting and posturing in all sports. When the game is over, and your team won - then you have latitude for puffing. Makes sports much less enjoyable for me. Striking some menacing pose and grimacing after making a slam dunk to take a 4 to 2 lead is preposterous. I always adhered to the Lombardi dictum, "When you get to the end zone, act like you've been there before." Draw your own basketball analogy. I also,wish that the league enforced rules like they did in the 60's. In my mind the NBA has the best athletes in the world. I would love to see them play a sport that enforced its rules. They don't need the extra help from the zebras. The zebras could truly enforce the rules, and today's NBA players are so good that the game would only be better. I blame David Stern for sacrificing the sport of basketball on the altar of entertainment. The NBA was a superior sport in the 60's played by inferior players; the NBA today is an inferior sport (?) played by superior players.

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Originally Posted by sasaint

You and I started watching the NBA at about the same time. The Sunday game of the week (only after the NFL season ended) almost always featured the Celtics - and I lived in Texas! Your assessment of the difference in eras, athleticism, training, etc. seems very objective to me. As an old schooler, I rue all of the flexing, and strutting and posturing in all sports. When the game is over, and your team won - then you have latitude for puffing. Makes sports much less enjoyable for me. Striking some menacing pose and grimacing after making a slam dunk to take a 4 to 2 lead is preposterous. I always adhered to the Lombardi dictum, "When you get to the end zone, act like you've been there before." Draw your own basketball analogy. I also,wish that the league enforced rules like they did in the 60's. In my mind the NBA has the best athletes in the world. I would love to see them play a sport that enforced its rules. They don't need the extra help from the zebras. The zebras could truly enforce the rules, and today's NBA players are so good that the game would only be better. I blame David Stern for sacrificing the sport of basketball on the altar of entertainment. The NBA was a superior sport in the 60's played by inferior players; the NBA today is an inferior sport (?) played by superior players.

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I never understood the idea of "hating" showmanship. For some reason older guys, mostly white Americans have an extreme dislike towards showmanship.

I get that it's somewhat off putting and even my own Father doesnt like it...But showmanship is a necceary part of sports that enables hightened entertainment and viewrship.

Seriously, i doubt the sport would be as popular as it is. The biggest contributors to their own respective sport in terms of sport growth have been showmen..Magic-Jordan-Lebron-Ali-Maradona-Pele etc.

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Originally Posted by apalisoc_9

For some reason older guys, mostly white Americans have an extreme dislike towards showmanship.

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:lol Ridiculous

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Originally Posted by gambit1990

if you have no interest in the upcoming nba season... THEN TRY NOT POSTING IN AN NBA FORUM.

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:rolleyes

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Originally Posted by Ice009

I can't really put this more eloquently, but if you're not interested and don't believe before even one game is played - Fuck off and stop pissing and moaning about it here. Go do something else and stop wasting your time and other people's time here bitching about it.

Spurs have a really good team with some very, very good players, and I won't take it for granted. So many fans of other teams don't have much to look forward to, and would absolutely love to have a team like this current Spurs team to go for, but I guess that isn't good enough for a lot of the people around here. Spurs have a chance, and really, that is all you can ask for. If you don't believe, fuck off. I'll never bow down to Goldenstate or any other team. You try your hardest to beat them, not buy into the hype and give it your best shot and see what happens. No one is unbeatable. A lot of teams lose the game mentally to teams like this before it's even played.

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:rolleyes

Spurs are not the favorites but I'm still interested in seeing how the season plays out. I look forward to seeing how LMA does now that he's used to playing in the Spurs system. Another year to see if Kawhi is truly a legit superstar. I like the addition of Pau and look forward to seeing how he meshes into the Spurs offense. Also it will be interesting to see how the young guys perform this year such as Simmons,Anderson,Murray,Livio,Bertans.