Training Camp Waivers 2016

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Originally Posted by Mr.Bottomtooth

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Wow! LJC out! Anyway, Laprovittola and Forbes are so much more useful than LJC.

Honestly, the way the game is played today, you really want those 3 point shooters! Glad we added 2 more of them.

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Originally Posted by sasaint

I don't see a trade. Too many new faces to suit Pop already. But you can bet the Spurs will keep a sharp eye on the guys getting waived from now until the deadline.

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I agree, no trade happening. The team is set with 15 players.

Livio - worst pick ever? Any other first rounder ever cut in training camp of their rookie year?

GLAD they picked up Laprovittola.
I thought he got a contract in Europe TBH
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I like the move, especially if Livio goes to the Toros. Sure, he'd cost more to call up, but now there's less pressure on both sides to live up to the deal. Writing was sort of on the wall with the way he was not given minutes. Didn't seem like Pop though LJC had earned any. Like Lapro and Forbes a lot individually, but they seem rather redundant. Guess Bryn's the other Austin assignee.

Outside of a trade scenario, Lapro isn't Mills insurance, as he's on a Boban-esque one-year deal.

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Originally Posted by cd021

Good. I think Simmons gets first crack at the 3 with Bertans getting a shot there too (like Mills and Neal in the 12-13 season before Neal got the gig at backup PG)

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Frankly I have seen Bertans exclusively as a 4 and have loved him as that.

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Originally Posted by Chinook

I like the move, especially if Livio goes to the Toros. Sure, he'd cost more to call up, but now there's less pressure on both sides to live up to the deal. Writing was sort of on the wall with the way he was not given minutes. Didn't seem like Pop though LJC had earned any. Like Lapro and Forbes a lot individually, but they seem rather redundant. Guess Bryn's the other Austin assignee.

Outside of a trade scenario, Lapro isn't Mills insurance, as he's on a Boban-esque one-year deal.

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Damn, you are right. We burn long term prospect for a short term one. I think its right, these two are ready to play!

I also doubt another team will pick up LJC. There are a ton of athletic players that get waived every year. A dime a dozen.

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Originally Posted by SAGirl

Frankly I have seen Bertans exclusively as a 4 and have loved him as that.

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He's tall enough to just raise his hands.... typical Spurs (non-fouling) defense. You saw that against the Rockets. How many blocks did he get?

I don't know if i see the use in keeping Lapprovittola. They already have two nba points in Parker and Mills, who are usually pretty healthy, and a development point with Murray, and. Manu to run point. When is Lapprovittola supposed to play? I only saw two PS games but is he such a good defender that he'll be used like Joseph was?

I've been incredibly harsh on LJC and bringing him over, but it's a sunk cost. At least give him a year in Austin, or maybe he can be trade ballast at the deadline.

Spurs can now play really small ball:

Laprovittola, Parker, Mills, Forbes and Simmons (at center).

or tall ball

Anderson (PG), Leonard, Bertans, Aldridge, Gasol

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Originally Posted by Chinook

I like the move, especially if Livio goes to the Toros. Sure, he'd cost more to call up, but now there's less pressure on both sides to live up to the deal. Writing was sort of on the wall with the way he was not given minutes. Didn't seem like Pop though LJC had earned any. Like Lapro and Forbes a lot individually, but they seem rather redundant. Guess Bryn's the other Austin assignee.

Outside of a trade scenario, Lapro isn't Mills insurance, as he's on a Boban-esque one-year deal.

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Well Mills is a FA this next offseason too. They will have decisions to make next summer about their own guys.

And under the table went the fact that they did struggle some with cutting Garino or they would have done that last night together with Arci, so I think they for sure liked him but struggled with the decision to cut Simmons and decided to give Simmons a chance.

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Originally Posted by SAGirl

Well Mills is a FA this next offseason too. They will have decisions to make next summer about their own guys.

And under the table went the fact that they did struggle some with cutting Garino or they would have done that last night together with Arci, so I think they for sure liked him but struggled with the decision to cut Simmons and decided to give Simmons a chance.

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I was talking about Patty's pending free agency when talking about insurance. Lapro probably won't play well enough to be a cheap alternative to Mills. If he's good enough to take the job, he's going to be paid like it.

I said Forbes should and would make the team and LJC is not an NBA player...

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Originally Posted by objective

I don't know if i see the use in keeping Lapprovittola. They already have two nba points in Parker and Mills, who are usually pretty healthy, and a development point with Murray, and. Manu to run point. When is Lapprovittola supposed to play? I only saw two PS games but is he such a good defender that he'll be used like Joseph was?

I've been incredibly harsh on LJC and bringing him over, but it's a sunk cost. At least give him a year in Austin, or maybe he can be trade ballast at the deadline.

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I guess you did not see him play. He's the best ball handler in the entire team. Lapprovittola, after Parker, is you only other true point guard.

LJC is as much a bust as James Anderson. Really sucks knowing that he was just one pick away from Gobert. He just didn't improve after a great showing when he was 18. I don't know what the hell is wrong with him.

To be fair though, if Spurs weren't lucky to find both Lapro and Forbes, LJC likely would not have been waived. Just the breaks of the game. These two players are really that good!

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Originally Posted by coachmac87

I said Forbes should and would make the team and LJC is not an NBA player...

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You did. Got 'em, Coach.

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Originally Posted by objective

I don't know if i see the use in keeping Lapprovittola. They already have two nba points in Parker and Mills, who are usually pretty healthy, and a development point with Murray, and. Manu to run point. When is Lapprovittola supposed to play? I only saw two PS games but is he such a good defender that he'll be used like Joseph was?

I've been incredibly harsh on LJC and bringing him over, but it's a sunk cost. At least give him a year in Austin, or maybe he can be trade ballast at the deadline.

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I thought that they could have traded him along with Mills if they see Patty is outplayed by Laprovittola or if they think he might be to expensive to resign. That would have netted a 5 million dollar player in return.

I guess what pick might Patty nail you if he has a good year.

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Originally Posted by coachmac87

I said Forbes should and would make the team and LJC is not an NBA player...

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Pretty much everyone who knows basketball agreed that LJC was not an NBA player.

To say the truth, no one understood why he was signed.

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Originally Posted by ceperez

I guess you did not see him play. He's the best ball handler in the entire team. Lapprovittola, after Parker, is you only other true point guard.

LJC is as much a bust as James Anderson. Really sucks knowing that he was just one pick away from Gobert. He just didn't improve after a great showing when he was 18. I don't know what the hell is wrong with him.

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Torn ACL robbing him of his Splitter-like mobility and the elevation he needed to rebound and finish. Real easy to see where it's gone wrong for him. And real sad.

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Originally Posted by Chinook

Torn ACL robbing him of his Splitter-like mobility and the elevation he needed to rebound and finish. Real easy to see where it's gone wrong for him. And real sad.

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Don´t be so sad, he has 2.4 million reasons to take this as a learning experience and move on.

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Originally Posted by SAGirl

Well Mills is a FA this next offseason too. They will have decisions to make next summer about their own guys.

And under the table went the fact that they did struggle some with cutting Garino or they would have done that last night together with Arci, so I think they for sure liked him but struggled with the decision to cut Simmons and decided to give Simmons a chance.

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I disagree with that statement. Simmons wasn't going to be waived for Garino. Garino was not a tough decision. Did you see how he played last night? The Rocket's guards were driving past him! I think though he has potential, just not now.

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Originally Posted by kaji157

Pretty much everyone who knows basketball agreed that LJC was not an NBA player.

To say the truth, no one understood why he was signed.

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He was signed for due diligence tbh and with the prayer that something would click if he was surrounded with better talent...butttt of course that was wishful thinking lol

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Originally Posted by coachmac87

He was signed for due diligence tbh and with the prayer that something would click if he was surrounded with better talent...butttt of course that was wishful thinking lol

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due diligence??

Wow, did not expect them to keep Forbes AND Lappro; thought it'd be one of them and maybe Anthony.

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Originally Posted by Chinook

I was talking about Patty's pending free agency when talking about insurance. Lapro probably won't play well enough to be a cheap alternative to Mills. If he's good enough to take the job, he's going to be paid like it.

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Well I havent' seen Lapro as much as I have seen Mills for sure... but I think he's a more well rounded PG than Mills. Moving forward, once Manu retires, I think he's better. He can shoot the 3, but does other things, passes better, has more size to defend, etc.

But again with just a few minutes of preseason over 4-5 games or so, it's not enough to say how good he will be through the season. Still I like the pick, he's really solid and allows Murray to go through his rook struggles without pressure. I always though Pop didn't want to place Murray in the spot like he did with Ray Mac. ---Although Murray is way more talented. It also allows Forbes to learn from Lapro TBH and Forbes is here for more than a season...