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I didn't know Danny was out for three weeks. It will be interesting to see who takes his place. Haven't had a chance to watch last night's game except for the 4th quarter. I hope LJC does well in Austin, but Lauro and Forbes clearly were more deserving of the spots. I'm excited to see this team.
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ElNono
Oh, and it was pretty clear Murray is going to go through the "get over yourself" treatment... especially after Pop pulled him for calling his number one too many times. He's probably going the Anderson route, getting a bigger role next season or even the third year. I liked what I saw from the kid, but his real shot will come around when he's 22... maybe 21 if he shows good flashes.
If they are going to keep him in SA, I wish they would take the PG duties away and let him slash like Simmons. If they want him developing as a PG, I wish they would just keep him in Austin and force him to focus on playmaking. People keep falling into trap of wanting "combo" players. There just aren't that many players who can pull off a combo role. I think he'd be worth more to the team, and to his own career, if they would pick a role and let him get as good as he can be at it.
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GSH
If they are going to keep him in SA, I wish they would take the PG duties away and let him slash like Simmons. If they want him developing as a PG, I wish they would just keep him in Austin and force him to focus on playmaking. People keep falling into trap of wanting "combo" players. There just aren't that many players who can pull off a combo role. I think he'd be worth more to the team, and to his own career, if they would pick a role and let him get as good as he can be at it.
Pop has always been a fan of scoring PGs anyways, tbh, aging-Manu notwithstanding... I think they're going to take him through "the process", but he's talented.
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For those who have watched some of the preseason games, what did Laprovittola bring to the table that Pop must have liked? In highlight videos, I did see some neat passes here and there but there really aren't any lengthy highlights of him from the preseason. Is he a good defender? A good shooter? What will he bring that the Spurs don't have already in Parker, Mills, and Manu (de facto PG of the second unit)?
Looking at the box scores, he didn't even play the final game which is a little weird if you ask me.. He was a DNP, and he never exceeded 15 minutes in any single game, while guys like Garino and Forbes got more minutes
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jiggy_55
For those who have watched some of the preseason games, what did Laprovittola bring to the table that Pop must have liked? In highlight videos, I did see some neat passes here and there but there really aren't any highlights of him from the preseason. Is he a good defender? A good shooter? What will he bring that the Spurs don't have already in Parker, Mills, and Manu (de facto PG of the second unit)?
Looking at the box scores, he didn't even play the final game which is a little weird if you ask me.. He was a DNP, and he never exceeded 15 minutes in any single game, while guys like Garino and Forbes got more minutes
Floor general, defensively he looked physically strong for a PG of his size. He was confident out there, shooting 3s, running plays. He's more cerebral than athletically gifted, solid is the word that comes to mind. Basically, the exact opposite of young Murray, I thought.
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ElNono
Floor general, defensively he looked physically strong for a PG of his size. He was confident out there, shooting 3s, running plays. He's more cerebral than athletically gifted, solid is the word that comes to mind. Basically, the exact opposite of young Murray, I thought.
How close would you say he is to his ceiling? Is there much room for development or is going to be what he is?
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ElNono
Floor general, defensively he looked physically strong for a PG of his size. He was confident out there, shooting 3s, running plays. He's more cerebral than athletically gifted, solid is the word that comes to mind. Basically, the exact opposite of young Murray, I thought.
Thanks! Hope we have got ourselves a good and strong 2nd/3rd string PG. With guys like Kawhi, LMA, Pau, we don't need a high scoring point guard, we need someone to facilitate play and make the right passes.
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How close would you say he is to his ceiling? Is there much room for development or is going to be what he is?
I have no clue, frankly. Hasn't seen him play much more than you guys.
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ElNono
Pop has always been a fan of scoring PGs anyways, tbh, aging-Manu notwithstanding... I think they're going to take him through "the process", but he's talented.
Meh. You're right about Pop, and he's obviously the one who decides. I've got a good friend who's a coach who always said that point guards are born, and not made. I got in the habit of watching for it, and I sort of decided that he is right. But Pop's got his own philosophy, and he's done pretty well with it.
I agree that Murray has a lot of talent. I had kind of started thinking that, if they would let him just be a 2, and started him working with Chip, he might contribute this year. But he's still just turned 20. And if they are going the other route, that's probably too much to expect.
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ElNono
Floor general, defensively he looked physically strong for a PG of his size. He was confident out there, shooting 3s, running plays. He's more cerebral than athletically gifted, solid is the word that comes to mind. Basically, the exact opposite of young Murray, I thought.
I agree. You have to watch him on extended minutes to see how comfortable he is in running the offense. He could be the best playmaker out there since he dribbles well and can see the entire floor. He also can hit the 3 well. He's got the talent of De Colo, but not the hesitation shooting the 3. Heck, maybe his upside is Steve Nash upside. There was no way that Spurs would let him go.
When he moves in offense, he uses changes of pace rather than quickness to fool his man. The way he handles the ball on dribble is also pretty impressive. Let's just hope he doesn't get called too often for palming violations (considering he's a rookie). He shoots kind of in the style of Curry. More like a push shot not at the peak of his shot. That could be a good thing as evidenced by Curry.
I overall optimistic here.
Regarding Forbes, more like Neal. Not very good at running the offense, but knows how to find the spots to shoot. Also very quick release and like Reddick, can shoot the 3 while moving laterally. If you set him up right, he'll make a ton of baskets.
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butler got waived. not that we have room. and he's older now, idk how much he has left.
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GSH
Meh. You're right about Pop, and he's obviously the one who decides. I've got a good friend who's a coach who always said that point guards are born, and not made. I got in the habit of watching for it, and I sort of decided that he is right. But Pop's got his own philosophy, and he's done pretty well with it.
I agree that Murray has a lot of talent. I had kind of started thinking that, if they would let him just be a 2, and started him working with Chip, he might contribute this year. But he's still just turned 20. And if they are going the other route, that's probably too much to expect.
I think Murray is more a combo guard in a shooting guard's body then an actual point guard too. It seems the coaching staff and most observers see him as a point, though.
I think it is great to load up on young wing players, I'm also happy the didn't waste time keeping Jean-Charles, but I really, really wish they could have found a project SF or PF/C for the last roster spot.
That could still happen if Simmons, Forbes or Larpo (not typing out that last name) are unimpressive or they see someone avaliable that has Aron Baynes, Hassan Whiteside or similar slept on potential.
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I mentioned his name in the offseason thread and yes I know he wouldn't pull this off in the NBA but it would be nice to have a big that could run a one man fast break.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WehUbqdNxo
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lol Holy shit. People are still talking about Anthony Randolph? :lol
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lol Holy shit. People are still talking about Anthony Randolph? :lol
He's only just turned 27, so he's still not that old. It seems like he's been around for years. Maybe he's still got upside left?
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Rand:lolph...hell, what's Pops Mensah-Bonsu doing these days?
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Eight years after being drafted, you really should mention the words "potential" or "upside". Kid never worked on his game, he was just content being in the NBA, at least for a while.
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Ice009
He's only just turned 27, so he's still not that old. It seems like he's been around for years. Maybe he's still got upside left?
I find it funny that suddenly 27 isn't old for a guy who could never stay in the league, but everyone talks about how little upside Simmons has who is basically the same age.
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I find it funny that suddenly 27 isn't old for a guy who could never stay in the league, but everyone talks about how little upside Simmons has who is basically the same age.
Simmons has only scratched the surface. The fact that they are the same age is meaningless. Randolph was a first rounder and was given every chance imaginable. Simmons was a mutt who wouldn't quit.
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It's meaningless? The man maybe has a couple of years before his athleticism leaves him and he's nothing but a turnover machine on offense. :lol
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How about Jarett Jack...He is 32 yrs old.....You think he has anything left in the tank?
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Randolph was a very talented offensive dude but he lacked the committment. He was lazy on defense and he had a terrible attitude.
He could have easily grown in a decenth 5th best player in a really good team guy but that never happened and never will. He's happy with the 3 or so million dollars every year..he makes in Europe. Less games, less practice, you won't get paparazi if you go to a hostel and fuck whores etc.
Its a perfect place for a lazy guy with talent to make some decent money and enjoy his life tbh.
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Would take Anthony Randolph 10/10 times over Anderson
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Mitch McGary might be getting waived. If he makes it post the waiver wire. Might be someone to look at. At of those crossroads of changing or risk being out of the league. Hampered by injuries but solid skill set.
Also like Zach Auguste.