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Re: Election Day! Who are you voting for?
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Kawhitstorm
That was the only way to convince states to join the union b/ tiny states would never have a voice in elections otherwise.
The other option is to breakup the Unions & decentralize the gov't.
Yup.
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Thread
2nd time since the century turned. If you're so put out get started now in a grass roots effort to change the process in time for '20.
Chop/chop!!!
unbelievable that some archaic rules from 100 years ago or so still prevail...
To sum up your vote counts only if you live in "swing" states, if you live in Cali or Texas don't bother voting and president is elected by the minority of the voters. It is time US political system be reformed tbh... we are in 2016 for christ sake
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Originally Posted by
Brazil
unbelievable that some archaic rules from 100 years ago or so still prevail...
To sum up your vote counts only if you live in "swing" states, if you live in Cali or Texas don't bother voting and president is elected by the minority of the voters. It is time US political system be reformed tbh... we are in 2016 for christ sake
What, you thought "we" were just going to keep getting slaughtered every 4 years and do nothing about it? Well, frankly I thought that. Some people don't think like that. Some sit down and plan a way to beat the Celtics after they kicked our ass for decades. Magic Johnson did that. Trump, sat down and came up with a plan around the blue wall.
I never thought the Dems would make another mistake after '00. I was blessedly wrong.
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Re: Election Day! Who are you voting for?
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Originally Posted by
Thread
What, you thought "we" were just going to keep getting slaughtered every 4 years and do nothing about it? Well, frankly I thought that. Some people don't think like that. Some sit down and plan a way to beat the Celtics after they kicked our ass for decades. Magic Johnson did that. Trump, sat down and came up with a plan around the blue wall.
I never thought the Dems would make another mistake after '00. I was blessedly wrong.
Trump in 2012: ""The electoral college is a disaster for a democracy," :lmao
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spurraider21
i hate muslims that murder too
You make it sound like it's just a few and that it's not a culture. Palestinian communities throw parties for suicide bombers, dude. And bringing it back to Hillary, she admitted that SA and Qatar govts (wikileaks) fund ISIS. Guess who funds Hillary? Use your brain, dude. America and the world didn't lose on Tuesday (at least relative to the alternative).
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Re: Election Day! Who are you voting for?
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Originally Posted by
Brazil
unbelievable that some archaic rules from 100 years ago or so still prevail...
To sum up your vote counts only if you live in "swing" states, if you live in Cali or Texas don't bother voting and president is elected by the minority of the voters. It is time US political system be reformed tbh... we are in 2016 for christ sake
It's not "archaic" at all. Remember, the US isn't just one big country. It's a confederation of 50 states, all with their own unique populations, political climates and concerns. The Electoral College is in place to make sure there's more parity between the states. California, Texas and New York still have a lot of influence in the process with 122 electoral votes between them. But the system makes sure that they can't completely dominate the process at the expense of everyone else. It's actually a smart system for dealing with a population as large and diverse as ours.
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Clipper Nation
And we don't do that. We just dislike it when people cross the border into our country illegally, or abuse our broken immigration system in order to carry out terrorist attacks and/or spread radical religious doctrine. But people like you conflate that with "hating people because of their religion/background" because virtue signaling is more important to you than the truth.
Arn
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Re: Election Day! Who are you voting for?
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Brazil
Trump in 2012: ""The electoral college is a disaster for a democracy," :lmao
Obviously now the EC is buttering Trumps & my bread.
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Originally Posted by
Clipper Nation
It's not "archaic" at all. Remember, the US isn't just one big country. It's a confederation of 50 states, all with their own unique populations, political climates and concerns. The Electoral College is in place to make sure there's more parity between the states. California, Texas and New York still have a lot of influence in the process with 122 electoral votes between them. But the system makes sure that they can't completely dominate the process at the expense of everyone else. It's actually a smart system for dealing with a population as large and diverse as ours.
electoral college disproportionately benefits small states due to the senate numbers (not claiming thats why trump won) though. the electoral college system also means your vote basically doesn't count if you live in a non-swing state
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spurraider21
electoral college disproportionately benefits small states due to the senate numbers (not claiming thats why trump won) though. the electoral college system also means your vote basically doesn't count if you live in a non-swing state
But look at who the swing states are - states like New Hampshire, Iowa and Nevada that would have NO voice without the Electoral College. With the system we have now, their key role in the process forces candidates to run a national campaign instead of strictly pandering to urban centers on the coasts.
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Re: Election Day! Who are you voting for?
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Clipper Nation
But look at who the swing states are - states like New Hampshire, Iowa and Nevada that would have NO voice without the Electoral College. With the system we have now, their key role in the process forces candidates to run a national campaign instead of strictly pandering to urban centers on the coasts.
a voter in new hampshire would have equal say to a voter in california or texas or ohio or florida
a president should serve the people, not some random geographic regions
as somebody who lives in california, wheres :cry my voice :cry... donny t didnt rally here enough because he was busy pandering for people in ohio and pennsylvania. if only he pandered to me with some rallies i woulda been inspired to vote for him :depressed
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Re: Election Day! Who are you voting for?
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spurraider21
a voter in new hampshire would have equal say to a voter in california or texas or ohio or florida
Not really. Take away the Electoral College and the big states simply drown out flyover country. I know liberals are fine with that because it would greatly reduce the chance that they ever lose another election, but it's not healthy for a republic.
Bottom line: we're electing the President of the United States, not the President of California, Texas, Ohio and Florida.
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Clipper Nation
Not really. Take away the Electoral College and the big states simply drown out flyover country. I know liberals are fine with that because it would greatly reduce the chance that they ever lose another election, but it's not healthy for a republic.
Bottom line: we're electing the President of the United States, not the President of California, Texas, Ohio and Florida.
of course you aren't electing president of california. thats why the whole country votes :lol
instead the EC means we are electing president of florida, ohio, pennsylvania to run the whole country
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CN is seriously trying to defend the EC? It doesn't exist to protect voters. It exists to protect states, because when all that shit was made up, the US was a federation of states that had populations more loyal to their governors than president. States like RI thought they had a right to have their voice (NOT plural) heard, or else they may as well just leave. Now that it's established that no one can leave, it shouldn't matter. Same with the Senate, which was designed to be more of a UN than a Parliament.
The EC is archaic, and it needs to go. So does the Senate.
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Re: Election Day! Who are you voting for?
The Dow Jones has skyrocketed for the 2nd day in a row, up 267 points, and is nearing record highs. This is awesome.
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Re: Election Day! Who are you voting for?
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Originally Posted by
Clipper Nation
It's not "archaic" at all. Remember, the US isn't just one big country. It's a confederation of 50 states, all with their own unique populations, political climates and concerns. The Electoral College is in place to make sure there's more parity between the states. California, Texas and New York still have a lot of influence in the process with 122 electoral votes between them. But the system makes sure that they can't completely dominate the process at the expense of everyone else. It's actually a smart system for dealing with a population as large and diverse as ours.
I understand your pov and federation concept but a system that leads to a situation where a president is elected with less votes than the runner up seems crazy to me and yes "archaic". Also and again if less true after this election, in some states your vote means shit because state is lost or won before even starting, thats also is crazy to me.
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Re: Election Day! Who are you voting for?
Celebrate good times. Come on.
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Stalin
Hope you don't mind sand paper..:lol
That too. We are sooo fucked, tbh. :depressed
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1 person=1 vote. That's clearly the fairest way, tbh.
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mavsfan1000
Celebrate good times. Come on.
The Grand
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Re: Election Day! Who are you voting for?
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Originally Posted by
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The Grand
How long do you think you'll be on Cloud 9? I see your shit eating grin isn't getting any smaller.
The entire 4 years? 8 years?
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Silver&Black
How long do you think you'll be on Cloud 9? I see your shit eating grin isn't getting any smaller.
The entire 4 years? 8 years?
It's been wonderful, &. Anytime I want I can go to Fox, or CNN, or, MSNBC and get my bell rung. It's been so great. Instead of waking up in the middle of the nite and thinking Spurs, or Suns, or, Lakers, I wake up and think Trump and mine enemies. I just roll over on that couch, and fall back into dreamland.
I've wanted to see those fuckers suffer and now I get it on a daily 24/7 basis. They're absolutely livid on CNN. And it's just starting to sink in on 'em. That's the sweet part.