What's our record without Parker?

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Originally Posted by gambit1990

spurs now 7-0 when murray starts.

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:wow gambit going in raw

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Originally Posted by Hoops Czar

He's just manipulating stats to fit his narrative. There's no cause and effect relationship whatsoever. It's like saying the Spurs are 4-1 without Kawhi. Spurs must be better without him. Murray and Mills had absolutely nothing to do with this win.

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truth.. I'm all for Murray getting some minutes, he needs it to grow. But the fact is, him starting does not make this team better. As we go down the stretch, it's important for TP to get minutes with Dedmon now in the SL so they can continue to build chemistry and learn each others habits.

The first half of the season is for guys to get minutes, and Pop to experiment a bit. They'll still get some time post all star break of course, but the focus will mostly be on the rotational guys continuing to gel. It's still a pretty new team, and chemistry is very important heading into the post season

Murray will have his time in probably a year or 2. He's not close to where he needs to be just yet, but I think he'll get there if he continues to work and fine-tune his game

Murray with 6 ast last night. Spoon feeding Lee and a kick out to danny for some crucial 4th quarter shots. That definitely had something to do with a 1 point win.

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Originally Posted by Floyd Pacquiao

Murray with 6 ast last night. Spoon feeding Lee and a kick out to danny for some crucial 4th quarter shots. That definitely had something to do with a 1 point win.

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Problem is he also turned the ball over and got muscled out of running the offense. Pop didn't even start him the second half. Yes he scored a basket (something everyone in the NBA should be able to do if given minutes), but he could not run the offense, which led to poor spacing, late shots, and turnovers. Sure he needs minutes to get better, but he has a long way to go. He shows flashes, but if he's out there during the playoffs, it means something has gone horribly wrong, because he's not good enough to earn minutes when every possession counts.

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Originally Posted by cd98

Problem is he also turned the ball over and got muscled out of running the offense. Pop didn't even start him the second half. Yes he scored a basket (something everyone in the NBA should be able to do if given minutes), but he could not run the offense, which led to poor spacing, late shots, and turnovers. Sure he needs minutes to get better, but he has a long way to go. He shows flashes, but if he's out there during the playoffs, it means something has gone horribly wrong, because he's not good enough to earn minutes when every possession counts.

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Did he play better after he got bech? Yes he did. Pop was trying to send him a message and he got it. That is part of coaching.

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Originally Posted by cd98

Problem is he also turned the ball over and got muscled out of running the offense. Pop didn't even start him the second half. Yes he scored a basket (something everyone in the NBA should be able to do if given minutes), but he could not run the offense, which led to poor spacing, late shots, and turnovers. Sure he needs minutes to get better, but he has a long way to go. He shows flashes, but if he's out there during the playoffs, it means something has gone horribly wrong, because he's not good enough to earn minutes when every possession counts.

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He looked great a month ago vs Cleveland. I hope Pop doesn't have him thinking too much, killing off his natural skills. The "be like Chrissy Paul and control everything" -don't like it.
Parker getting out muscled and turning the ball over etc and the offense out of sync? Lots of times the last two playoffs.

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Originally Posted by GB20

Did he play better after he got bech? Yes he did. Pop was trying to send him a message and he got it. That is part of coaching.

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No, he didn't. He got in the game and when his poor play continued, he was yanked for Mills, who was just awful as well. Note the Spurs offense was horrible yesterday but for Kawhi and David Lee bailing them out.

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Originally Posted by MultiTroll

He looked great a month ago vs Cleveland. I hope Pop doesn't have him thinking too much, killing off his natural skills. The "be like Chrissy Paul and control everything" -don't like it.
Parker getting out muscled and turning the ball over etc and the offense out of sync? Lots of times the last two playoffs.

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It's not like he isn't capable of making plays from time to time, but he even got benched in that Cav game. I don't want to be too tough on him, he is a 20 year old playing the hardest position in the best league in the world. But he looked like he needs more seasoning. You have to love the length and athletic ability, but he was a guy with tools that the Spurs are developing and as is shown by CoJo, etc, it takes time. Even Kawhi took a few years to get his star turn. I get people want to see the shiny new object, and hell, we've been watching Parker since he was 19, but Spurs won't win if they have to turn to Murray in the playoffs. He's not ready and if he got 20 minutes a night for every game this year, we probably wouldn't be a high playoff seed.

And no, Parker has played solid if not spectacular in the playoffs. Sure you can find a game or two per year, but you could do the same for Tim Duncan. The Spurs big three are playoff Studs, which is why they won 4 titles. Hopefully Murray climbs the mountain, but it ain't this year.

Damn, this thread really backfired, tbh:lol

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Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37

Damn, this thread really backfired, tbh:lol

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Just not in the way you think. :lol

:lol no, it backfired exactly how I think it did..

I don't even think the Spurs are better without Parker, as I said earlier in this thread, but the objective of this particular thread clearly failed..

:lol