Kawhi's Advanced Stats Watch: How Much Better Is He Compared To Last Season?

I don't have the stats in front of me (couldn't find advanced stats from last season right now), but I thought I would start a thread on the subject because I'm curious as to whether Kawhi has actually taken any significant strides since last season or just has a higher usage. Does anyone have any interesting numbers that say how much better Kawhi is performing thus far compared to last season?

Thoughts or stats? :toast

It's too early in the season for any meaningful stats. His usage has gone up, and his eFG% has been ridiculous high in the last few games. So it looks good right now, however a week ago he was shooting a mere 33% at 3pts shots, now he is over 40%. Stats vary this early in the season.

Haven't checked stats, but it looks to me Kawhi's not been too good defensively this season. Certainly not as good as last couple of seasons. Could be because he needs more energy for offense, of course.

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Originally Posted by alpha_HaZE

It's too early in the season for any meaningful stats. His usage has gone up, and his eFG% has been ridiculous high in the last few games. So it looks good right now, however a week ago he was shooting a mere 33% at 3pts shots, now he is over 40%. Stats vary this early in the season.

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Right. I understand that. It'll be interesting to follow. His 3 % could rise tremendously. He's still above his career average right now even with his poor start from 3.

Peter Holt is a racist POS....

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Originally Posted by alpha_HaZE

His usage has gone up

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I would say that his USG% has dropped a lot in the last games. Pau has almost the same USG%.
Previous this game it was...

But I think it's about Pau/Parker then Kawhi after tonight game.

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Originally Posted by John Petrucci

His 3 % could rise tremendously

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Not sure. He's taking so many 3's, seven tonight, nine in Sacramento game.

With Parker/Pau P&Rs, they're playing him to spot-up more but 8 3PA per game in just two games is too much...

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Originally Posted by YGWHI

Not sure. He's taking so many 3's, seven tonight, nine in Sacramento game.

With Parker/Pau P&Rs, they're playing him to spot-up more in the corner but eight 3PA per game is too much...

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True. I'll take his current % though even if it'd be nice to see it at 44-45%. Even when it feels like he's in a huge slump he's still at 42%

But yea that may be too many attempts...

Still early, but :

Offensive rating - 112.9, up from 109.2 last season.
Defensive rating - 105.0, down from 94.9.
eFG% - 51.3, down from 56.5.
TS% - 60.1, down from 61.6.
ORPM - 5.46, up from 4.19.
DRPM - 1.23, down from 3.88.

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Originally Posted by BG_Spurs_Fan

Still early, but :

Offensive rating - 112.9, up from 109.2 last season.
Defensive rating - 105.0, down from 94.9.
eFG% - 51.3, down from 56.5.
TS% - 60.1, down from 61.6.
ORPM - 5.46, up from 4.19.
DRPM - 1.23, down from 3.88.

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Thank you. Just what I was looking for. Those defensive drops seem staggering. The TD retired effect? :lol Impossible for that not to negatively impact D, really.

I hope as he becomes more comfortable in his new role those offensive numbers really take off.

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Originally Posted by John Petrucci

The TD retired effect? :lol

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I'd say the Parker-Pau-together-in-the-SL effect

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Also maybe a result of energy used on offensive end and/or taking possessions off to preserve offensive energy.

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I wouldn't say it. It's more about two weak defenders in the SL and Danny's absence in many games. No one -even Kawhi- can cover up 3 guys at the same time

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Originally Posted by YGWHI

I'd say the Parker-Pau-together-in-the-SL effect



I wouldn't say it. It's more about two weak defenders in the SL and Danny's absence in many games. No one -even Kawhi- can cover up 3 guys at the same time

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Damn I couldn't edit that quick enough :lol You're right. I started thinking about the hand he's been dealt thus far. Tough without Danny and already missing Tim.

His per 100 possessions offensive numbers basically mirror Carmelo's '13-'14 season when Melo shot 40% from 3 & accumulated the highest offensive win-share of his career: http://bkref.com/tiny/DNfnt

Kawhi is shooting a career worst 46% on two-pointers mostly b/c he's been struggling w/ his free-throw line jumper & only shooting 59% at the rim b/c he finishing in traffic more than ever. His FG% should creep up to the high 40s when his elbow jumper starts following consistently. Overall, Kawhi so far has his highest offensive plus/minus of his career.

Defensively, he has a DRtg of 100 which is his highest since his rookie season & his lowest defensive plus/minus of his career by a good margin but considering how the starters have been killed on defense it's not surprising. Although, he has the best defensive rating among the starters along with the most defensive win-shares on the team & only Dedmon has a lower DRtg than Kawhi. Overall, he's rated as the equivalent of '15-'16 Paul George who was All-NBA Defense 2nd team.

DRPM data would be helpful considering that Pau has the best defensive plus/minus among the starters & Kyle is second on the team.:lol

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Originally Posted by BG_Spurs_Fan

eFG% - 51.3, down from 56.5.
TS% - 60.1, down from 61.6.

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Amazing. :claw

Increasing his USG% and he still remains one of the most efficient scorers even when he shoots like shit. When he's hitting everything from 3, can't hit an ocean on 2P, and vice versa.

Hopefully he can put it together in next games.

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Originally Posted by Kawhitstorm

His per 100 possessions offensive numbers basically mirror Carmelo's '13-'14 season when Melo shot 40% from 3 & accumulated the highest offensive win-share of his career: http://bkref.com/tiny/DNfnt

Kawhi is shooting a career worst 46% on two-pointers mostly b/c he's been struggling w/ his free-throw line jumper & only shooting 59% at the rim b/c he finishing in traffic more than ever. His FG% should creep up to the high 40s when his elbow jumper starts following consistently. Overall, Kawhi so far has his highest offensive plus/minus of his career.

Defensively, he has a DRtg of 100 which is his highest since his rookie season & his lowest defensive plus/minus of his career by a good margin but considering how the starters have been killed on defense it's not surprising. Although, he has the best defensive rating among the starters along with the most defensive win-shares on the team & only Dedmon has a lower DRtg than Kawhi. Overall, he's rated as the equivalent of '15-'16 Paul George who was All-NBA Defense 2nd team.

DRPM data would be helpful considering that Pau has the best defensive plus/minus among the starters & Kyle is second on the team.:lol

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Lots of interesting info here. Thank you :toast

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Originally Posted by Kawhitstorm

His per 100 possessions offensive numbers basically mirror Carmelo's '13-'14 season when Melo shot 40% from 3 & accumulated the highest offensive win-share of his career: http://bkref.com/tiny/DNfnt

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I know that people hate him here but prime Melo was a fantastic offensive player. If Kawhi is that player on offense, I couln't be happier.

Then add Kawhi's D, heart, work ethic...I guess he'll be fine.

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Originally Posted by YGWHI

I wouldn't say it. It's more about two weak defenders in the SL and Danny's absence in many games. No one -even Kawhi- can cover up 3 guys at the same time

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Pau/Softridge are getting killed on switches & sagging won't solve it since they don't really intimidate anyone at the rim compared to someone like Dedmon.

The Bulls fell off defensively after they signed Pau b/c Noah's mobility was compromised after his knee injury & could no longer switch onto guards (Thibs benched Noah last season b/c of that reason).

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cxks03EVEAEjCZ0.jpg:large

Can't speak too much for last night, since the broadcast in Austin was pure shit. But Kawhi still has a way to go to find a balance in his game. Before recently, he was far too slanted toward offense. But he's taking a lighter load on that end right now, so I expect the stats to keep improving.

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Originally Posted by YGWHI

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cxks03EVEAEjCZ0.jpg:large

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Biyombo/Turner with the worst RPM for their respective positions after signing a 70 mill contract.:lmao

The stats are pretty deflated right now after the LA and Houston game, but it should get better as the season progress. 50-40-90 watch is going to be exciting no to mention the RPM leaders.

Also, Dedmon playing can really elevate Kawhi defensive stats...the more he plays with Gasol, the worse his stat is.

Pau effort in defense in significantly worse when he's not involved in offense. Pretty shitty if you ask me...At least softridge can somewhat run in the perimter.

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Originally Posted by Chinook

Can't speak too much for last night, since the broadcast in Austin was pure shit. But Kawhi still has a way to go to find a balance in his game. Before recently, he was far too slanted toward offense. But he's taking a lighter load on that end right now, so I expect the stats to keep improving.

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Klay "Best Two-way Player" Thompson: http://www.espn.com/nba/statistics/r...RPM/position/2 :lol

And folks was laughing at me when I said Thompson is not even the fourth best SG..:lol

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Originally Posted by Kawhitstorm

Klay "Best Two-way Player" Thompson: http://www.espn.com/nba/statistics/r...RPM/position/2 :lol

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Damn!! :rollin

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Originally Posted by BG_Spurs_Fan

Haven't checked stats, but it looks to me Kawhi's not been too good defensively this season. Certainly not as good as last couple of seasons. Could be because he needs more energy for offense, of course.

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He's been in a lower gear to not burn out, and teams have been smarter about moving the ball away from him. His defense has looked as strong as ever to me though.

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Originally Posted by apalisoc_9

And folks was laughing at me when I said Thompson is not even the fourth best SG..:lol

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That was probably some cause for some safe space.

Since we know pussy San Antonio Media won't ask him, has anybody asked him about these Kobme stretches of super forced bullshit shots and ballhogging?
Glad it's only in spurts now but WTF, just seems so out of character for Kawhi prior to this seasons past.

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Originally Posted by Kawhitstorm

Klay "Best Two-way Player" Thompson: http://www.espn.com/nba/statistics/r...RPM/position/2 :lol

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Andrew Bogut affect. Avery Bradley (a good defender) is also on that list while Kyle Anderson is leading all NBA shooting guards. :lol Just goes to show you how worthless and deceiving a stat like defensive real plus minus is this early in the season.

Fwiw, Klay Thompson finished last season 37th so obviously he hasn't regressed that badly in one year's time.. Danny Green started off last year pretty atrocious in DRPM as well and he rebounded nicely.

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Originally Posted by Hoops Czar

Andrew Bogut affect. Avery Bradley (a good defender) is also on that list while Kyle Anderson is leading all NBA shooting guards. :lol Just goes to show you how worthless and deceiving a stat like defensive real plus minus is this early in the season.

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Fat Head actually finished 3rd in DRPM last season: http://www.espn.com/nba/statistics/r...RPM/position/2 :lol

^ While a single stat can be misleading, like in this case, Anderson's defense is actually quite decent. He's extremely passive offensively and Pop plays him all over the court, from 2 to 4, but he really bothers players with his length and is also quite strong. He bullied Ingram last night.

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Originally Posted by Kawhitstorm

His per 100 possessions offensive numbers basically mirror Carmelo's '13-'14 season when Melo shot 40% from 3 & accumulated the highest offensive win-share of his career: http://bkref.com/tiny/DNfnt

Kawhi is shooting a career worst 46% on two-pointers mostly b/c he's been struggling w/ his free-throw line jumper & only shooting 59% at the rim b/c he finishing in traffic more than ever. His FG% should creep up to the high 40s when his elbow jumper starts following consistently. Overall, Kawhi so far has his highest offensive plus/minus of his career.

Defensively, he has a DRtg of 100 which is his highest since his rookie season & his lowest defensive plus/minus of his career by a good margin but considering how the starters have been killed on defense it's not surprising. Although, he has the best defensive rating among the starters along with the most defensive win-shares on the team & only Dedmon has a lower DRtg than Kawhi. Overall, he's rated as the equivalent of '15-'16 Paul George who was All-NBA Defense 2nd team.

DRPM data would be helpful considering that Pau has the best defensive plus/minus among the starters & Kyle is second on the team.:lol

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Nice post :tu