Good post tbh OP.
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Good post tbh OP.
Agree.Quote:
and they'd be worse
http://www.thescore.com/nba/news/116...-a-towel-waverQuote:
The Spurs are also 10.1 points better per 100 possessions offensively when he's on the floor and give up 12.4 more points defensively when he's on the bench
So you say that Kawhi doesn't make his teammates better, then you says a player has to be unselfish with a high IQ to do it...Quote:
Originally Posted by TD 21
Just hilarious. This the first time that I read a guy suggesting Kawhi is selfish and a low IQ player.
I get that Kawhi as the franchise player now, will receive a ton of criticism in every Spurs' loss, he's gonna be blamed for every Spurs loss...But if he plays well, good, great in those games I won't agree on burning him for it.
Again, no reading comprehension. I specifically said, Leonard doesn't make his teammates better offensively in a direct way. In other words, he has tunnel vision and is terrible at making plays for others.Quote:
Originally Posted by YGWHI
Except he does. What are you smoking dude. :lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by TD 21
Kawhi draws doubles and triples with ease, spots up from 3 because he can space the floor, slashes/cuts off ball, runs the pnr and shoots with the clock running down all the time. :lmao
He doesn't. Of course they're significantly better when he's on the floor: he's arguably a top 5 player in the world and neither of his backups are proven rotation players.Quote:
Originally Posted by dabom
Brah he does. He draws the double or triple and even spots up Danny Patty Gasol and lma all the time...Quote:
Originally Posted by TD 21
He's like DeRozan in this regard: He generally only passes when he has to and they're almost always reactive and basic ones. He doesn't have the capacity to manipulate defenses.Quote:
Originally Posted by dabom
We are debating whether he makes players around him better on offense. Clearly you are wrong here. :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by TD 21
No, we're debating whether he makes players around him better in a direct (play making) way.Quote:
Originally Posted by dabom
His assist percentage is a paltry 17.2%, an embarrassingly low number for a high usage (30.5%) perimeter player.
This is a fascinating discourse, you 2. Please continue...
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Originally Posted by TD 21
First off all, players can make players around them better through the post game by sucking in multiple defenders and kicking out, and by normal playmaking. Both of those are direct. And the Spurs are known to keep passing it to the open man. Kawhi will not always be the assist man, but he is making players better either though the post or PnR action. And lets just say you switched your idea from directly to playmaking. :lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by TD 21
You need to stop being wrong here. :lmao
Nah, I just put the latter in brackets to make myself clear when I say directly because I know some will point to his on/off numbers and claim it's direct and it is, in a sense; just not the one I mean.Quote:
Originally Posted by dabom
I'm not talking impact. I'm talking about his actual game.Quote:
Originally Posted by TD 21
He's a scorer who is willing to pass when the defense collapses. LeBron is considered a scorer despite scoring more point that anyone in his age group b/c his first instinct isn't to score but rather set up teammates. Jordan/Bird were unstoppable offensive forces b/c they could do both at an elite level.Quote:
Originally Posted by TD 21
The issue is only when players are on the extreme end of either one: Kirby vs. Diaw