Lets say you are given the keys to be GM of this team. What realistic moves would you make before the trade deadline specificly to even be able to challange the Warriors team?
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Lets say you are given the keys to be GM of this team. What realistic moves would you make before the trade deadline specificly to even be able to challange the Warriors team?
I think we've shown that if we don't play like dog shit we can challenge any team. That being said we need a scorer off the bench who can shoot and handle the ball some.
Kyle Anderson to the Mavs for Justin Anderson
Laprovittola + 2017 First round pick
to
Timberwolves for
Tyus Jones and Timberwolves 2nd round pick 2018
Tyus Jones is actually a pretty good young pg - and he's definitely the Wolves 3ed pg. I'd love to have him take over for Parker, but even if not, he'd make pretty good insurance for Patty leaving.
i'm trading parker.
Aldridge for a solid big man and a decent point guard (Valanciunas and Cory Joseph?)
Fathead for Anthony Davis.
LMA to Milwaukee for Greg Monroe and Rashad Vaughn and a second rounder
Danny Green and Kyle Anderson and Forbes and a future second rounder for Nerlans Noel and Robert Covington
PG- Parker, Mills, Lap, Murray
SG- Covington, Manu, Vaughn
SF- Leonard, Simmons, Bertans
PF- Monroe, Noel, Lee
C- Gasol, Dedmon
Aldridge to PHX
Jrue Holiday, T. Jones, Cunningham pick to SA
Knight, Bender, Chriss to Pelicans
( Pels get Knight on a fair deal 12 mi next 4 yrs vs. paying 22+ mil for Jrue and get Bender as a nice prospect to grow w/ Anthony Davis at the 5.)
Then I'd turn around trade Mills for a late 1st to a contender out East (Hawks?) ( Jrue would start at PG, Parker would be back up -- no room for Mills).
Anderson just has to go. And try to sucker the kings into taking Aldridge for Cousins
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Originally Posted by gambit1990
Patty + Anderson for Belinelli... numbers work.
We get something for Patty before he goes away, we get Beli on a friendly contract that's expiring next season...
You give Murray/Lapro/Manu some run at backup PG, and you get a good off the ball player that can give you good shooting and already knows the system to shore up the bench...
Id prefer Lamb over Belinelli.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
beli isn't worth giving up patty for.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
even for getting him on a friendly contract. manu's contract comes off the book after this season anyways.
parker is getting a raise next season. if you have the keys to be GM, you get rid of him.
lamb isn't worth giving up patty for either.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaNu4Tres
Patty is walking away for nothing at the end of the season. I get the feeling he's going to get offered a ton of money by some team with good capspace, and he's gone.
I don't want him gone, but I feel the Spurs would have to massively overpay in a multi-year deal to keep him. So might aswell try to get something back.
if you have the keys and you're giving up patty... aim higher.
It says play GM before the deadline... I'm talking tweaking here, for this season, not blow it up...Quote:
Originally Posted by gambit1990
beli for patty isn't a positive tweak for this season.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
you said beli would "give you good shooting and already knows the system to shore up the bench"...
-patty is a better shooter
-patty has been with the spurs longer so probably knows the system better
-beli won't shore up the bench anymore than patty already is
I can't imagine any team willing to take Parker under any circumstances. It's a pipe dream and nothing more.
you forgot the "plays off the ball" part, which this team is lacking...Quote:
Originally Posted by gambit1990
I rather keep Patty, but he's gonna move on, and
- we have a logjam at backup PG
- Patty is the only player besides Danny that has good enough value to make a trade happen (LMA, Kawhi and Gasol are not going anywhere this season, IMO, Manu and Tony are retiring as Spurs, the rest has no real value)
- if it doesn't work out, you have an expiring $6m contract for next season
Could it make us worse? sure. Could it be just a lateral move? sure.
I know some peeps here didn't love Marco, tbh, especially for his defense... but Pop just commented a few weeks ago how the Spurs were never really able to replace him since he left...
And I'm one of the biggest Patty fans in here, tbh... gonna be sad to see him go at the end of the season...
I'm resigned to losing Mills in free agency. If PATFO can find a way to get an asset or somehow upgrade the back-court by packaging him at the trade deadline, I would certainly do it..
By Jan/February, this team should get a clear idea about their postseason chances..It is gonna suck seeing him in Pistons uniform as we get nothing in return per par :lol..
Manure is outta here. Clearly holding back Paddy
All the trades that would considerably increase our chances should be to get a very good to great Point Guard or at least Combo guard.
All of those trades would involve trading either Manu or Tony.
A true Spur GM won´t trade them.
Damn resident GM Chinook hasn't posted yet in this thread :wow ..thoughts ?
We got like no assets, Mills expiring isn't one of them. We won't be making any big deals, unfortunately.
Jeremy Lamb is someone i would try to add, but he can only "makes us better" if he explodes with us, on his very first season with us.
Two very improbable and big IFs.
But he has been playing very well on the limited time he has been on court with the Charlotte.
Just drag TD's ass out of retirement, tell him to swallow his pride and give us 8-10 minutes a game off the bench, tbh.
Eh. It's hard to know what "realistic" means. If it's not realistic for either Tony or Manu to be moved, there's nothing the Spurs can do.Quote:
Originally Posted by spursistan
Patty era needs to end tbh even at a reasonable price I think it's time we move on.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
Anderson + small asset for Oubre
DittoQuote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
I don't see any realistic trade options. Lack of real assetts, lack of realisticly available targets.
You also have a team that is 11-4, not quite in sync, so hard to pull the trigger.
A good defensive and/or combo point guard would be good, but not sure any are reasonably available.
I see all the points you are making, in terms of not losing him and coming up completely empty handed, him moving on for a big contract, and very likely a larger role, etc... I remember the season the Spurs had an avalanche of "riches" at the PG spot with CoJo, in reality a rotation player for any other team, at the 3rd string PG. He could have been traded that season so as to not let him go for nothing. He didn't really play at all in the Clippers series, and considering how Tony was playing, giving CoJo a day in the sun in the series might have helped... specially after we saw him have a few very good games for the Raptors in the playoffs last season. It's just one of those things that one can attach to the list of Pop postseason blunders. But the point I wanted to make was that he could have fetched someone back.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
PATFO
instead didn't trade him. I guess PATFO wanted to keep him if it was possible.. maybe if LMA didn't sign... but I tend to think even if LMA had not joined the team and they had cap, they wouldn't have matched on CoJo's Raptors offer bc it was too much for a guy that would be swinging as a 3rd string PG and 1st when Tony was injured. It's just one of those things.
I get the feeling sometimes that Patty will be too overpriced to retain, but then I realize that Manu is likely retiring and of that entire title group he would be the only remaining player to lead a bench and his microwave scoring screams 6th man... and as a 6th man he would play more minutes than Tony at times and close out games if Tony is struggling. I just think if Spurs are deadset on continuing with Tony and developing Murray for a starting role (a very likely scenario), Patty can fit in as a bridge between the two and give you bench scoring. To me he fits a role for the Spurs going forward.
But it's anyone's guess what kind of offer he gets offer and whether the Spurs only moves in FA when the time comes include just paying to retain Patty and one of Dedmon or Simmons (if Simmons doesn't get out of his shooting slump through the season and remains as a player that just attacks the basket and gives you good defense, maybe his contract is not outrageous and Spurs can retain him... really depends on his play in the postseason... he's a guy that could shoot poorly all season --currently at 19% from 3-- and then get hot in one series like he did in that GSW game and someone come in and buy high on him too. You know Van Gundy will hype him up. lol)
Anyways, I have chatted too much as I tend to do. My crystal ball is clouded on Patty truth be told.. but considering the player he is for the Spurs, nah they don't trade him. The Spurs take their chances in FA with him and see what they can do.
(Really for me one of LMA or GAsol needs to go..)
Chinook is garbage at trade proposals. Mainly cause his player evaluations suck. :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by spursistan
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Originally Posted by Maddog
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Originally Posted by Chinook
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Originally Posted by tbdog
All of this ^Quote:
Originally Posted by kaji157
I'm on the record that there will be no trades during the season. The Spurs are going to battle with what they got. They might add a free agent at the end of the season, but there won't be any radical roster reconstruction.
Take out one of Bender or Chriss (and add Tucker, if needed, to make it work financially) to even it out.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaNu4Tres
Spurs probably wouldn't touch Jones. Word is, he has some off court concerns, which is supposedly the main reason it took him so long to sign and he only got the veteran's minimum.
Value/need wise, all 3 would probably consider this though, but if/when they trade Aldridge, I suspect it won't happen until the off season.
I still think Knight, Len and one of Bender or Chriss is most likely, but I could see Randle, Clarkson, Nance.
They wont be getting anyone of knight value if do decide to wait till next season. You're not getting a young cheap guard that has proven scoring ability for 1 year with aldridge specially since Knight himself is somewhat in a decent contract.Quote:
Originally Posted by TD 21
The suns would also have to be fighting for a playoff spot for them to even consider Aldridge. I've never really considered the lakers but since they are fighting for a spot, maybe they do consider a trade...unlikely considering clarckson 4 year contract.
:lmao As if Knight has astronomical value. Aldridge is the key asset here and when you're the Suns (or most teams for that matter), Aldridge might as well be James or Durant, because he's as close as they can possibly sign and/or trade for in that stratosphere.Quote:
Originally Posted by apalisoc_9
Besides, Aldridge almost picked them in '15, so there's a good chance he'd re-sign. Either way, they're more than likely desperate enough (stagnant franchise, GM probably feeling heat) to take the chance, especially considering they'd spare their best player (Bledsoe) and 3 of 4 top young assets (Booker, Lakers '17 1st, one of Bender or Chriss, but they'd get an upgrade at their position) and they already have internal replacements for what they'd lose (Ulis for Knight, Aldridge and an increased role for whoever remains of Bender or Chriss for Len and whoever is gone between Bender or Chriss).
Knight can be a real asset for a future trading partner. There's better targets in the next couple of years...I dont see how a team that has zero chance of making the playoffs surrender one of their trade baits for a 1 year rental.Quote:
Originally Posted by TD 21
In Aldridge FA year, there would be like 5 players better than him. Why should the suns even bother with him at that point?
Trading for Aldridge just doesnt make sense for them in the short run or long run. The Lakers maybe since they have a decent coach and a playoff team...
Aldridge is a real asset. He's regarded as a top 15 player and even if by the end of the season (if he doesn't pick it up), he's considered more top 20-25, it's the Suns and it's a more than likely desperate GM. It doesn't matter who's better, because the odds of them signing them are slim to none and their roster needs to be streamlined at some point anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by apalisoc_9
It does make sense. You can't toil in the lottery forever hoping to strike gold. At some point, impatience from ownership and fans leads to being fired. They need to do something to show improvement and drum up some interest and this is probably the best they can do.
There's no question in my mind they'd jump at this.
Brandon Knight is an atrocious basketball player, tbh..
If you're that confident with the Suns going for Aldridge hard..I hope the spurs have enough leverage to ask for Bledsoe instead though. Much better player. Knight is a terrible player.Quote:
Originally Posted by TD 21
Its Bledsoe or GTFO suns..if the spurs have control of the trade talk...
Kawhi + Cash for Chandler Parsons
Aldridge for Dirk
Gasol for Gasol
Let Mills walk, bring Ray Allen out of retirement
Max Parker
Extend Ginobili for 5 years
Fire Pop
In that proposal, Jrue Holiday would be coming to SA, not Knight.Quote:
Originally Posted by apalisoc_9
And Jrue > Bledsoe.
Knight actually makes 14m/year in avg and let's be honest here : He sucks. Smalish 6'2 SG with a a Iverson mentality but only 10% of the talent.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaNu4Tres
If i'm NOLA, I'd rather keep Jrue in a 22m/year contract. NOLA looks much better with him back and he is only 26 y/o. That contract won't bite them in the ass in the future.
I see PHX as a trade parnet for Aldridge as they wanted him badly in the FA and almost got him, but it would have to be a straight up deal, without a 3rd partner.
Jrue isn't guaranteed though. He'll be unrestricted and free to go anywhere (they could lose him for nothing). And if they go back to the drawing board and try to sign a PG in FA, you're looking at paying Knight money to Dellavedova type talent.Quote:
Originally Posted by elemento
They won't do better than Knight for the money in free agency. And then you throw a nice prospect like Bender on top of it?
He isn't, but it's not like he is unhappy there asking for trade. The Pelicans actually handled the whole Lauren Holiday quite well and i'm sure he is taking it into account. In the end, it's all about the money. He will probably get a max/close to max 5y contract and stay.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaNu4Tres
Personally, I'm very low on Brandon Knight. I'd rather have nothing than him and his contract. I think NOLA will take their chances to keep Jrue and in my opinion, they're right.
They obviously weren't as sure as you are since they didn't offer him an extension when they could have.Quote:
Originally Posted by elemento
Davis would demand a trade if that ever happened.:lolQuote:
Originally Posted by MaNu4Tres
Knight isn't better Lou Williams & Bender is about 3 years away from being a rotation player. They would turn into the Kings who have a bunch of bigs but no starting point guard; Buddy is also looking like McLemore 2.0.:lol
If the Pelicans ever made that trade then they should sign Rudy Gay & change their name to the New Orleans Kings. (FYI: Pelicans have an incompetent front office that gave huge long term contracts to Asik/Tyreke/Solomon Hill while letting Aminu walk)
They weren't for health issues. Jrue is a very good PG when healthy though. Regardless if Jrue stays or not (i think he stays), I don't think NOLA should take BK and he isn't a PG or a good basketball player IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaNu4Tres
Love how you always mistake your subjective takes for facts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kawhitstorm
You don't think getting Bender & Knight right now for less than market value is a good move w/ Jrue's upcoming free agency? Nothing is guaranteed with Jrue. They could lose him for nothing, and then have to pay Brandon Jennings 15 mil per for 2 yrs. Plus, they aren't winning anything this year with Jrue anyway. It's not like he has value this year to them.
Knight is a poor-man's Jason TerryQuote:
Originally Posted by elemento
I didn't say it wouldn't be smart for the FUTURE of the franchise but that ***Antony Davis is going to demand a trade if he has to go through a rebuilding process***Quote:
Originally Posted by MaNu4Tres
T-Mac forced his way out of Orlando when the Magic were in line for the #1 pick in the draft (Dwight) after getting tired of losing despite putting up monstrous numbers & paying for it w/ his body. He was only 24 & had 3 years left on his contract.
Do you realize how stupid you sound?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kawhitstorm
They've gone through a rebuilding process his whole career there albeit one season where they over achieved and barely got the 8th seed in 2015 and he still signed an extension. Hell they are still rebuilding. Has he demanded a trade? You act like Pelicans are currently a contender when they aren't even a playoff contender.
Dumb.
THEY ARE IN A REBUILDING PROCESS RIGHT NOW.
if only he could shoot like Terry. To me there's no room for a guy like BK in a true contender.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kawhitstorm
BK has that Jamal Crawford chucking mentality, with Rubio's shooting touch and Javale's BBIQ. But hey, at least he is athletic.
Yeah he didn't sign the MONSTROUS extension b/c it wasn't a MONSTROUS contract & the Pelicans weren't seen as a team on a rise but rather a rebuilding team after they gave the eventually defending champs a competitive series despite getting swept.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaNu4Tres
What next? Lillard signed the MONSTROUS extensions under the premise that the Blazers were a rebuilding team & he was okay w/ it.:lol
would trade parker for a 3rd round draft pick.
He's not that much more talented than Jordan Crawford who's only out of the league b/c he has a terrible work ethic.Quote:
Originally Posted by elemento
He's not as bad as you guys are saying. He actually shot 41% from 3 just over a year ago in a huge sample ( 5 attempts per game) and has shot over 36% from 3 for his career ( Terry has shot 38% from 3 for his career). He's 24 and has been a good player in his early career -- he just averaged 19, 5 and 4 just a year ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by elemento
Is his IQ great? No, but he's still young. Has he been disappointing this year so far? Yes he has, but its very early in the season and he's only 24 but the potential is there -- he's proved it in his career.
By no means am I saying he's great, I'm just saying he's better than you and Mr. Facts are implying.
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would throw in two 1st round picks if that made this anymore realistic.
Fat Head has negative trade value::lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by 313
I wouldn't mind this, I love Summer League Anderson but goodness and mercy he's been disappointing this season. Wouldn't a team assume they are missing on a player if the Spurs are calling?Quote:
Originally Posted by CGD
Brandon Knight is a TERRIBLE playmaker, dude turns the ball over at an ungodly rate when he has to run the offense. He is also a minus defender who's laterally challenged to check point-guards. Buddy Hield/Knight would be a disastrous backcourt.:lolQuote:
Originally Posted by MaNu4Tres
Knight & E'Twaun Moore were from the same draft class, let's check how they're doing this season: http://bkref.com/tiny/p5ujw
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Originally Posted by spursistan
If he's a TERRIBLE playmaker ( nice way to quantify it -- not surprising) -- then what kind of play-maker is Leonard if he's had a worse assists to turnover ratio?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kawhitstorm
Again he's not as bad as you're implying. Facts back that up. Keep over exaggerating your subjective takes though.
Oh, we're comparing Kawhi's play-making abilities to a guy who's supposed to be a point guard?:sleepQuote:
Originally Posted by MaNu4Tres
Brandon Knight commits comedic Austin River-ish turnovers when he was drafted as a POINT GUARD.:lol
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Playmaking
Knight averaged 5.1 assists this season but did so with an assist-to-turnover ratio of 1.49, which ranked 66th out of 76 qualified players and better than only D'Angelo Russell among point guards.
A big contributor to this poor assist-to-turnover ratio was Knight's inability to set his teammates up for easy baskets. Of his top five pass targets this season — Eric Bledsoe, Devin Booker, P.J. Tucker, Jon Leuer, and Mirza Teletovic — only Leuer, Teletovic, and Tucker were also in his top five assisted players and neither were in the top two. Contrast that with Bledsoe's abbreviated season, where of his top five pass targets, four were also his top five assisted players, including the top three overall. As a primary playmaker for the team, Knight has to be more cognizant of setting his teammates up for scoring opportunities with his passes rather than making a pass just to bail out of a situation or when his own offense doesn't materialize.
Kawhi on the other hand has one of the lowest turnover rates among high usage players. His assist-to-turnover ratio is basically the same as Giannis who's supposed to be a FULL-TIME point-forward.
.........Do You Want More?????:wakeup
Unless its Bledsoe, tucker..The spurs should not give up Aldridge.
No one here suggested any Sun for Aldridge.Quote:
Originally Posted by apalisoc_9
I never said he was a good play maker and I never said he was great.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kawhitstorm
I'm simply saying you're over-exaggerating how bad he is.
Keep trying, you have a long way to go.
Start with comprehension first.
If we're looking to the future, then LMA to Boston for Nets 2017 1st round pick + Jaylen Brown + Amir Johnson
I wouldn't mind seeing Kyle Anderson go... and apart from a crazy trade that involves LA, I don't see anything else happening.
Kyle is the odd man out, we could trade him for an early second round pick.
I already proposed a trade where Sofridge goes to Boston & Bledsoe/Len/Tucker to the Spurs (waive Leprosy/Forbes) while the Suns acquire Smart/Kyle+1st rd pick(s) from Boston: (threw in Amir's expiring for salary matching purposes)Quote:
Originally Posted by apalisoc_9
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Originally Posted by ElNono
From Urban Dictionary:
Tweaking: Frantic and compuslive behaviour often associated with methamphetamine abuse (crank).
:D
Brandon Knight is a terrible playmaker for a POINT GUARD that was supposed to be a STARTER. If he was a starting 2-guard then he would be an above average playmaker like Avery Bradley compared to guys like Klay.:lolQuote:
Originally Posted by MaNu4Tres
Claiming a starting point guards playmaking abilities are better than a wingplayer makes no sense b/c they are judged in relative to players who play the same position. Draymond Green is an above average shooter for PF/C but he would be Andre Roberson status if he was a wing player.:lol
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Originally Posted by gambit1990
pending on if chandler can still play.
if chandler can still play i'd take parker + lma for just booker + chandler. the math doesn't work out though.
if it did i'd have no problem with starting booker at PG.
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Originally Posted by Kawhitstorm
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Jaylen Brown plays the same position as Kawhi.:wakeupQuote:
Originally Posted by CGD
This year's Spurs have very few trade assets. Realistically, the only tradable contracts ( with positive value ) are Danny's and Patty's and both would leave big holes that would have to be filled. It's unlikely they'd look to trade either, even if they don't think they'd want to pay Patty Tyler Johnson money. They're not moving Gasol, Aldridge or Parker.
It's possible they make a smaller trade, with Jonathon's contract being the most likely, if they don't plan to keep him. Something like Simmons to Philly for Holmes/Thompson/Covington could work but it won't move the needle.
It's interesting whether they'd want to keep their 1st round pick since they already have quite a lot of rookies and have Milutinov in the pipeline too. If they plan to use cap space, in case Gasol opts out, they may not want that contract on the books. On the other hand, decent players on rookie contracts help a lot with the cap management going forward and the 2018 summer projects to be very interesting for the Spurs.
The most likely move, of course, would be waiving Forbes or Lapro or both and adding a buyout vet after the trade deadline.
Anderson and Simmons for Hezonja
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=jerzq2t
If we want to go in an entirely different direction
Hezonja has been terrible. He is getting benched by a team that is not that good and invested a high lottery draft pick on him. He's not shooting better than Simmons and doesn't add what either player does on defense or BBIQ. It is a terrible sign that he's not playing for a team with a losing recrod. It's true that he's 21 but he's not better than either player right now and he's shooting 17% from 3 TBH.Quote:
Originally Posted by mo7888
Hezonja has some talent, but he also has the Spanoulis syndrome. He thinks he is a lot better than he actually is and playing in the NBA gave him a hint of the cruel reality.
If he doesn't change his mentality, I don't think there's a place for him in SA or anywhere else in the NBA.
In reality that ^ is the only possible move I can see and it's unpredictable right now who could be made available.Quote:
Originally Posted by BG_Spurs_Fan
I'd love to have Booker, dude is a baller.Quote:
Originally Posted by gambit1990
This.Quote:
Originally Posted by elemento
Plus it doesn't look like the coach or front office really trust him anymore, at this point they're just desperately trying to get something out of him because he was such a huge investment (just look at some of the names taken after him), but Fournier is a lot better and readier and he's just 1 or 2 years older so he's probably the guy they wanna build around
And it'a a shame, because Mario indeed has talent
Suns would laugh their asses off and hang up immediately at that trade imoQuote:
Originally Posted by gambit1990
He's stuck on a team that doesn't know how to develop players. Can you name me one guy they've actually developed? He's got much more upside than either Kyle of Jonathan and he's still young enough to reach his potential. I doubt Orlando would give him up for KA and Simmons but, it's the kind of move that helps us long term without giving up on this season ala trading LA.Quote:
Originally Posted by SAGirl
These trade proposals man.
It's all good though, fans are supposed to have fun. We've all been there.
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Is it good ? Is it fair enough for both teams ?
i don't disagree with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joseph Kony
would've proposed lma + parker for just chandler + booker. math doesn't work out though.
So Knight went from being supposedly too valuable to be a headliner in an Aldridge package to terrible, because that's what Harlem said?Quote:
Originally Posted by apalisoc_9
Bledsoe is definitely better, but he's also 2-3 years older, has bad knees and is more reliant on athleticism. If the Spurs medical staff is confident he'll hold up for a while physically, I'd still prefer him, but from the Suns perspective, since this would be a win now move, they'd probably prefer to hang on to their best player, despite on and off rumors of both sides unhappiness with one another.
Whether he'd be a deal breaker for the Spurs or not, would probably depend on how highly they think of whichever of Bender or Chriss they'd be getting, since Knight and Len are more known commodities. If he's in it though, I think Len is out and it becomes just him and one of Bender or Chriss.
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Originally Posted by MaNu4Tres
Who cares about context though? It's all about whatever is happening in the moment.
Knight has been terrible this season, but it's not difficult to ascertain why: 3rd organization in which he's quickly went from building block to afterthought and probably first time in his life he's been a bench player for an extended period.
Get him in this environment and there's no reason to think he can't get back to the player he was 2 seasons ago, which was solid.
Why are you twissting my words my man. Many Valuable trading assets are terrible players in truth. It's his contract and the fact that hes under 25 that makes him valuable..doesnt excuse him for being a turnover machine.Quote:
Originally Posted by TD 21
Vucevic.Quote:
Originally Posted by mo7888
Oladipo.
Vucevic was good when he got there, his development happened in Philly before the tear down. Oladipo underachieved in Orlando.Quote:
Originally Posted by palangi