Kawhi "Carmelo" Leonard is now the most clutch regular season player

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Originally Posted by MaNu4Tres

This means over the long run, or over a large sample for those people who can't read
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Comparing championship pressure to regular season pressure is comparing apples to oranges. :sleep

Chris Webber had TWO moments in his career where he had a chance to win a championship & he melted under pressure in both cases when things got tight. He never learned from his failures & redeem himself unlike Dirk/LeBron who both admitted to succumbing under immense pressure.

If you want more sample sizes of Webber short comings in the postseason then look no further than him losing EVERY winner-take-all game in his career (college & pros) which are littered by pitiful performances rather than POSITIVELY memorable ones.:lol

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Originally Posted by Kawhitstorm

Comparing championship pressure to regular season pressure is comparing apples to oranges. :sleep

Chris Webber had TWO moments in his career where he had a chance to win a championship & he melted under pressure in both cases when things got tight. He never learned from his failures & redeem himself unlike Dirk/LeBron who both admitted to succumbing under immense pressure.

If you want more sample sizes of Webber short comings in the postseason then look no further than him losing EVERY winner-take-all game in his career (college & pros) while not putting up any memorable fight.:lol

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Yeah because shortcomings ( in regards to Team oriented W's and L's) are not team oriented at all. :lol

One of those moments he was dribbling the ball up the court ( something he's not used to doing).

The other time was when he was facing Shaq and Kobe in their mega prime days in the WCF. During this epic series, Webber averaged 24 and 10 on 53% shooting, taking the one of the best teams in NBA History to an OT in a 7th game. OMG he's so unclutch!!!

No substance behind your clutch or unclutch gene theory, no facts over the long run prove what you're saying. Instead, you pinpoint specific one time moments of A game, or A series when players miss or make a mistake, even though the same players have executed or made shots on other occasions.:lol

What other game or series do you want to bring up when a player failed to prove your point -- which based around such a small irrelevant sample size?

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Originally Posted by MaNu4Tres

Yeah because shortcomings ( in regards to Team oriented W's and L's) are not team oriented at all. :lol

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He was being carried by Mike "Never been an All-Star" Bibby in the 4th quarter/OT of Gm 7. :wakeup

Webber's shooting percentage in winners-takes-all games is 38% & much worse in crunch time.:lol

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One of those moments he was dribbling the ball up the court ( something he's not used to doing).

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Yeah, the guy that was famous for taking it coast-to-coast wasn't used to dribbling the ball up the court.:lmao

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The other time was when he was facing Shaq and Kobe in their mega prime days in the WCF. During this epic series, Webber averaged 24 and 10 on 53% shooting, taking the one of the best teams in NBA History to an OT in a 7th game. OMG he's so unclutch!!!

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Bruh, he averaged 24/10 on 53% shooting then turned into a potato in the 4th quarter & OT of Gm 7 which actually supports my argument. If he was struggling throughout the series then that would be one thing but dude disappears in the high stakes games & loses his composure at the wrong moment during those games.

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Originally Posted by Kawhitstorm

He was being carried by Mike "Never been an All-Star" Bibby in the 4th quarter/OT of Gm 7. :wakeup

Webber's shooting percentage in winners-takes-all games is 38% & much worse in crunch time.:lol



Yeah, the guy that was famous for taking it coast-to-coast wasn't used to dribbling the ball up the court.:lmao





Bruh, he averaged 24/10 on 53% shooting then turned into a potato in the 4th quarter & OT of Gm 7 which actually supports my argument. If he was struggling throughout the series then that would be one thing but dude disappears in the high stakes games & loses his composure at the wrong moment during those games.

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You keep pinpointing to one game or one situation (a very small sample size), which is horrible to base end all conclusions off of. This is going in circles, its not worth the time.

You believe in players having a clutch gene. I'm not going to try to change the way you think. You and Skip Bayliss need to share a room though.. tbh..

Have a good day.

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Originally Posted by Kawhitstorm

Comparing championship pressure to regular season pressure is comparing apples to oranges. :sleep

Chris Webber had TWO moments in his career where he had a chance to win a championship & he melted under pressure in both cases when things got tight. He never learned from his failures & redeem himself unlike Dirk/LeBron who both admitted to succumbing under immense pressure.

If you want more sample sizes of Webber short comings in the postseason then look no further than him losing EVERY winner-take-all game in his career (college & pros) which are littered by pitiful performances rather than POSITIVELY memorable ones.:lol

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Did Lebron actually admit it? That's good to hear because I could almost literally saw him pissing his pants numerous times in pressure situations. That's why I never rated him in the top 10 players ever until recently. He has certainly improved, but he still could be 1-6 in the finals if not for the Spurs handing that 2013 Championship to Miami and Draymond not fucking up last season.

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Originally Posted by MaNu4Tres

You keep pinpointing to one game or one situation (a very small sample size), which is horrible to base end all conclusions off of. This is going in circles, its not worth the time.

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:cryBut...but...but....it doesn't fit my narrative.:cry

It's one thing to lose via random circumstances or lacking the prerequisite supporting cast it's another when you're pulling the same shrinkage trick for a decade no matter the supporting cast as an amateur & pro.:lol

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You believe in players having a clutch gene. I'm not going to try to change the way you think. You and Skip Bayliss need to share a room though.. tbh..

Have a good day.

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You have a reading comprehension issue since I never claimed in the "clutch gene" theory but rather some players stay composed in pressure situation (clutch) while some don't (chokers).

Even when Kawhi's FG% dropped a bit in the clutch time after the game in Atlanta, he remains as one of the most efficient scorers in those situations.

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Originally Posted by diego

I would think that for most players, +/- 3% is a big deal, especially as you get closer to 50%.

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Not sure if they care about that. After all, only 2 of TOP 10 scorers are shooting .50%, the other 8...Russ. 42%, Davis .48%, Cousins .45%, Harden .44%, Thomas .45%, DeRozan .46%, Lillard .45%, Butler .45%

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Originally Posted by YGWHI

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Curry/LeBron aren't even the primary options during crunch-time.:lol (Kyrie/Dominos)

...making Kawhi the most clutch primary option.:toast

Kawhi should have shot it over bellybedova. Big players make big shots in big games.