This is the worst Spurs defense in 20 seasons after 20 games played..

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Originally Posted by YGWHI

Media narrative on Kawhi 'but but he's hurting his team' because they're in campaign for Dray DPOY. But then...Cavs game happened.

Anyway, Spurs defense has a lot of flaws but Kawhi isn't one of them.

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Chinook :lmao

It's all those bad defenders who are doing it.

Spurs should be able to stay on top ... still no b2b over the next two weeks with the Cavs being the only considerable challenge

Reading this board, you'd think the Spurs were around #10 on defense.

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Originally Posted by Seventyniner

Reading this board, you'd think the Spurs were around #10 on defense.

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The usual perpetrators. :lol

How the fuck can they be so high on D with Gasol/Parker getting significant minutes? :lol

Wingstop + last 2 weeks LMA have been absolute beasts lately.

Not only do they have the best defensive rating this season but their offensive rating is the best they've had in the last 20 years - they've never had such a good offensive rating in the Duncan years. It's also almost as good as during the 2014 playoff championship run.

All of this while having spacing issues and one of the worst starting 1-5 PnR defenders in the league. It shows this team is very talented and they may have a very high ceiling if they're able to keep these as the season progresses and carry it into the playoffs.

Also lol @ those bullshit articles about Kawhi's and the team's defense.

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Originally Posted by Chinook

It's all those bad defenders who are doing it.

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:lol

It's nice to see the D get progressively better, not an easy task with all the new faces.

Regular season numbers tho :lol

Goodluck with Gasol's defense in the playoffs

Fortunately, the Spurs play a team scheme.

Offensive numbers are extremely high league wide, so OP was misleading to begin with.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Body

Offensive numbers are extremely high league wide, so OP was misleading to begin with.

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True. I like to look at ORtg and DRtg in terms of standard deviations away from the mean. Makes it possible to compare different seasons and even different eras.

And on the other side of the court... best offensive rating in team history:

http://i.imgur.com/wFUv8QU.png

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Originally Posted by Seventyniner

True. I like to look at ORtg and DRtg in terms of standard deviations away from the mean. Makes it possible to compare different seasons and even different eras.

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Net rating is what matters the most::wakeup

If you are an elite defense but can't score then it means nothing, if you have an elite offense but can't get stops that also means nothing.

Factoring in the SOS, this team is on the same level as '11-'12 Spurs assuming Porker can somewhat maintain his current form.

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Originally Posted by Kawhitstorm

Net rating is what matters the most::wakeup

If you are an elite defense but can't score then it means nothing

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Worked pretty well for the Pistons in 03-04. No one would have considered that a great offense.

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Originally Posted by YGWHI

It seems like the Spurs have problem...

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We cannot be considered a legit contender if we have the worst starting PG in the west.

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Originally Posted by Darius Bieber

We cannot be considered a legit contender if we have the worst starting PG in the west.

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Pretty sure he's not

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Originally Posted by bklynspursfan

Pretty sure he's not

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Even if you're a Parker-lover, you've got to admit he's in the bottom-half. Even that isn't good enough to be considered a contender, especially in a league with an abundance of skilled PGs.

According to TPA, Pau is the best Spur defensively: http://nbamath.com/tpa-database/nba-2016-17-tpa-scores/

Anderson, Leonard and Dedmon round out the top four.

Total TPA has Kawhi, Gasol, Green, Patty and LMA as the top five.

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Originally Posted by Darius Bieber

We cannot be considered a legit contender if we have the worst starting PG in the west.

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If Westbrook is listed as the best defensive PG in any chart, you can basically light that chart on fire and burn it and draw random names in the ashes. The ash-names will be more accurate than that chart is.

3peat coming

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Originally Posted by Cry Havoc

If Westbrook is listed as the best defensive PG in any chart, you can basically light that chart on fire and burn it and draw random names in the ashes. The ash-names will be more accurate than that chart is.

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Here's the methodology: http://nbamath.com/tpa-model/

Can't say I'm a fan of that calculation. Straight Plus-Minus could probably be used this way, BPA? Pretty sure it's way too derivative. It ends up giving counter-intuitive answers. And I can't see what it is trying to do that VORP doesn't already do.

My guy Briante Weber is second in the d-league (top for guys who are able to be called up) by this stat. It has him as the best defender by far. Wouldn't want to let a potential Beverly 2.0 go without at least getting a look.