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Re: This is the worst Spurs defense in 20 seasons after 20 games played..
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Originally Posted by
Cry Havoc
If Westbrook is listed as the best defensive PG in any chart, you can basically light that chart on fire and burn it and draw random names in the ashes. The ash-names will be more accurate than that chart is.
:lol :lol
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Re: This is the worst Spurs defense in 20 seasons after 20 games played..
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Originally Posted by
Darius Bieber
Even if you're a Parker-lover, you've got to admit he's in the bottom-half. Even that isn't good enough to be considered a contender, especially in a league with an abundance of skilled PGs.
It's fine. If he plays close to how he has been, we'll be fine. We need to rely more on LMA and Kawhi showing up for TP's performance to matter.
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Re: This is the worst Spurs defense in 20 seasons after 20 games played..
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Originally Posted by
Cry Havoc
If Westbrook is listed as the best defensive PG in any chart, you can basically light that chart on fire and burn it and draw random names in the ashes. The ash-names will be more accurate than that chart is.
Seriously!
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Re: This is the worst Spurs defense in 20 seasons after 20 games played..
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Originally Posted by
bklynspursfan
It's fine. If he plays close to how he has been, we'll be fine. We need to rely more on LMA and Kawhi showing up for TP's performance to matter.
If he plays close to how he has been, he's a top 10 PG easily, probably a lot higher than that.
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Re: This is the worst Spurs defense in 20 seasons after 20 games played..
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Originally Posted by
Cry Havoc
If Westbrook is listed as the best defensive PG in any chart, you can basically light that chart on fire and burn it and draw random names in the ashes. The ash-names will be more accurate than that chart is.
well westbrook is not a clutch defender, but most of the games are played in non clutch minutes, and there he can impact the D just with his length and athleticism. Considering his competitors are curry, kyrie, loliard and wall, it's pretty obvious he can be ranked at the top just doing what he does.
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Re: This is the worst Spurs defense in 20 seasons after 20 games played..
http://www.basketball-reference.com/...7_ratings.html
Hilarious thing is that our defensive rating is the best in the league and we know we're playing trash defence. I mean this just shows that the standards aren't particularly high across the league for defence.
Hope the team actually gets their shit together and locks down properly. Imagine how the defensive rating would be with Duncan still playing!
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Re: This is the worst Spurs defense in 20 seasons after 20 games played..
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Originally Posted by
Chinook
My guy Briante Weber is second in the d-league (top for guys who are able to be called up) by this stat. It has him as the best defender by far. Wouldn't want to let a potential Beverly 2.0 go without at least getting a look.
Weber is in the D-League b/c of his defense so he better be at the top of the list.
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Re: This is the worst Spurs defense in 20 seasons after 20 games played..
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Originally Posted by
Kawhitstorm
Weber is in the D-League b/c of his defense so he better be at the top of the list.
He's at the top of the total list, not just defense. His defense is that high.
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Re: This is the worst Spurs defense in 20 seasons after 20 games played..
Spurs now tops in defensive efficiency and our defense sucks :lol
:lol today's NBA
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Re: This is the worst Spurs defense in 20 seasons after 20 games played..
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Originally Posted by
Cry Havoc
If Westbrook is listed as the best defensive PG in any chart, you can basically light that chart on fire and burn it and draw random names in the ashes. The ash-names will be more accurate than that chart is.
Not to mention Harden is listed as no. 2 with more defensive point saved than Kawhi, that list must be straight out of bizarro world.
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Re: This is the worst Spurs defense in 20 seasons after 20 games played..
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Originally Posted by
Raven
well westbrook is not a clutch defender, but most of the games are played in non clutch minutes, and there he can impact the D just with his length and athleticism. Considering his competitors are curry, kyrie, loliard and wall, it's pretty obvious he can be ranked at the top just doing what he does.
.... No.
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Re: This is the worst Spurs defense in 20 seasons after 20 games played..
Russ is legit a good defensive PG. However, this stat is heavily based on box-score stats, so a guy like Russ who gets steals and blocks and especially D-boards is going to dominate. Consider him the Carlos Boozer of TPA
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Re: This is the worst Spurs defense in 20 seasons after 20 games played..
definition of fools gold defense regardless of what the metrics say..
And no it is not only about Pau/Parker..Till the fuckin last second hilarious communication breakdowns leading to open 3s ..they are lucky Love was bricklayer extraordinaire tonight..
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Re: This is the worst Spurs defense in 20 seasons after 20 games played..
Defense is down throughout the league, tbh, it's not just the Spurs..the prominence of the 3-point shot..
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Re: This is the worst Spurs defense in 20 seasons after 20 games played..
Pau's defensive struggles have been well-documented, but it's still a little surprising, since David Lee is even worse, defensively(he has played more minutes than Dedmon during this stretch)..
The overall defensive improvement isn't surprising, though, as Kawhi is Kawhi, Aldridge has been great(defensively) and Green's defense the past few weeks has been back to the level of previous years..
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Re: This is the worst Spurs defense in 20 seasons after 20 games played..
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Originally Posted by
bklynspursfan
hah!
Thanks for sharing. Dedmon has been impactful and Kyle getting minutes always will improve the defense, Davis has improved a lot too.
They have struggled offensively in some games, but that period includes games that Kawhi and others like Manu have been out too... and it has to be said... Lamarcus offensively has been :td in this period in a few games, as well as the Paddy Microwave apparently having the bulbs defective right now.
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Re: This is the worst Spurs defense in 20 seasons after 20 games played..
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Originally Posted by
HarlemHeat37
Pau's defensive struggles have been well-documented, but it's still a little surprising, since David Lee is even worse, defensively(he has played more minutes than Dedmon during this stretch)..
The overall defensive improvement isn't surprising, though, as Kawhi is Kawhi, Aldridge has been great(defensively) and Green's defense the past few weeks has been back to the level of previous years..
Kyle has played... my guy... still underrated by some.
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Re: This is the worst Spurs defense in 20 seasons after 20 games played..
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Originally Posted by
HarlemHeat37
Pau's defensive struggles have been well-documented, but it's still a little surprising, since David Lee is even worse, defensively(he has played more minutes than Dedmon during this stretch)..
The overall defensive improvement isn't surprising, though, as Kawhi is Kawhi, Aldridge has been great(defensively) and Green's defense the past few weeks has been back to the level of previous years..
I mean, the Spurs were like 4th in defense when he went out IIRC. Not defending Pau's defense because it's, well....atrocious. But it's not like they made a huge jump.
Going from 4th ranked offense to a 20th ranked offense is more of a concern imo.
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Re: This is the worst Spurs defense in 20 seasons after 20 games played..
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Originally Posted by
Dex
I mean, the Spurs were like 4th in defense when he went out IIRC. Not defending Pau's defense because it's, well....atrocious. But it's not like they made a huge jump.
Going from 4th ranked offense to a 20th ranked offense is more of a concern imo.
True, like I said, David Lee is even worse, defensively..
I don't like Pau's game, but he's an asset for the Spurs, especially vs. shitty teams(he feats vs. sub-500 teams)..he would be an asset in a potential playoff series vs. Memphis and Utah, too, since they don't have the player or style to exploit his defense..
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Re: This is the worst Spurs defense in 20 seasons after 20 games played..
I believe we're seeing more and more this team is not really gonna give a fuck till the playoffs. They lose focus too often. I mean how many times have we seen a first half where it's close or they're even trailing at the half only to come out and blow out whatever team they're playing.
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Re: This is the worst Spurs defense in 20 seasons after 20 games played..
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Originally Posted by
Horse
I believe we're seeing more and more this team is not really gonna give a fuck till the playoffs. They lose focus too often. I mean how many times have we seen a first half where it's close or they're even trailing at the half only to come out and blow out whatever team they're playing.
:pop:
"Gotta make sure we stay under the radar"
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Re: This is the worst Spurs defense in 20 seasons after 20 games played..
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Originally Posted by
HarlemHeat37
True, like I said, David Lee is even worse, defensively..
I don't like Pau's game, but he's an asset for the Spurs, especially vs. shitty teams(he feats vs. sub-500 teams)..he would be an asset in a potential playoff series vs. Memphis and Utah, too, since they don't have the player or style to exploit his defense..
That is a good point ST used to roast D.Blair here but the fact that he ate up so many minutes in the regular season was great asset to the team and by the time the playoffs came depending on the matchup you wouldn't see him at all. If nothing else having Pau on the roster are less minutes we might need the KingSlayer to carry the team, and save minutes required for MVParker, Gino and LMAlpha to play during the regular season as well. Since LMA hasn't really dominated as the 2nd scoring option having another player that has played that role before helps to join the '2nd scoring option by committee' crew.
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Re: This is the worst Spurs defense in 20 seasons after 20 games played..
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Originally Posted by
SAGirl
Kyle has played... my guy... still underrated by some.
Fathead is not a reason why the Spurs defense is better you stupid fuck. :lmao
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Re: This is the worst Spurs defense in 20 seasons after 20 games played..
Spurs' defense, despite an overall regression and a poor start, has been a more stable and consistent feature for the team performance than their offense..