Re: Would you want PATFO to sign 32 year old Choke-P3 for the MAX?
Re: Would you want PATFO to sign 32 year old Choke-P3 for the MAX?
I wouldn't pay him a max deal. I know he is an MVP level player right now, but small guards who rely on their speed always flame out overnight in their early 30s. It happened with Parker. Back in 2013 this guy was a legit MVP candidate, by 2014 the team was often better with him on the bench, and since 2015 he has been a scrub. Same thing with Isiah Thomas, he fell off a cliff at age 31. Same thing with Kevin Johnson at 31. Iverson at 33. I would never trust a small point guard like Paul to age well and I'd want to pay him for what he'd be capable of providing in his contract, not a Kobe deal paying him for what he has done before. CP3 is one of the most amazing point guards I have ever seen but I can't think of a single six foot point guard who aged well.
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baseline bum
I wouldn't pay him a max deal. I know he is an MVP level player right now, but small guards who rely on their speed always flame out overnight in their early 30s. It happened with Parker. Back in 2013 this guy was a legit MVP candidate, by 2014 the team was often better with him on the bench, and since 2015 he has been a scrub. Same thing with Isiah Thomas, he fell off a cliff at age 31. Same thing with Kevin Johnson at 31. Iverson at 33. I would never trust a small point guard like Paul to age well and I'd want to pay him for what he'd be capable of providing in his contract, not a Kobe deal paying him for what he has done before. CP3 is one of the most amazing point guards I have ever seen but I can't think of a single six foot point guard who aged well.
He basically doesn't get to the rim & is living off mid-range jumpers which he's hitting at an unsustainable 53%. He was shooting 44% on 3s & that has now regressed back to his career average of 35% in December. His defense is also overrated, Curry has ran a train on him ever since forever & Kyrie also owns him so he basically has low value against the top 2 contenders.:lol (WestBrick also eats his lunch & has no regard for that midget)
The trend this season has been that he's been mediocre when his 3 isn't falling & he can't draw cheap fouls to get to the line. Dude couldn't outplay Jeff Teague this season in two embarrassing losses & he's supposed to be a leading MVP candidate.:lmao (Conley lit him up like a Christmas light)
Dragic is leading the league in drives which would make him lethal if he was surrounded by shooters (Danny/Kawhi/LMA) & he has a very reasonable contract (15mill per). PATFO can also dump Pau/Fat Head in that deal which would be addition by subtraction.:toast
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I would want Cp3 if it got rid of pau, tony, and lMa
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SAGirl
Probably not. Too old, again presenting issues of an aging core or supporting case for Kawhi...
Elfrid Payton is an interesting candidate, he's basically has been Mike Conley w/ a broken jumpshot: http://bkref.com/tiny/q3Tcm
He's gong to be a RFA in 2018 so PATFO could target him if the Magic decided to go a different route.
Re: Would you want PATFO to sign 32 year old Choke-P3 for the MAX?
So you want us to pay +30 millions for the next 5 years for a 32-yo hamstring that could pop at anytime..
Doc rushed him back vs the Pelicans and he is now apparently going to miss more games after aggravating it..If Paul is serious about winning a title, he should take a discount and come to SA, Pop will take care of his minutes and rest pattern to extend his career...Otherwise, Melo West isn't the worst of fates for him.
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spursistan
So you want us to pay +30 millions for the next 5 years for a 32-yo hamstring that could pop at anytime..Doc rushed him back vs the Pelicans and he is now apparently going to miss more games after aggravating it..
He is going the KJ route his career was ended by a nagging groin injury at the tail end of his prime.
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spursistan
If Paul is serious about winning a title, he should take a discount and come to SA, Pop will take care of his minutes and rest pattern to extend his career...Otherwise, Melo West isn't the worst of fates for him.
Choke-P was the one that hired Michelle Roberts to negotiate the new CBA which paved the way for 10+ year vets to earn 200+ mill contract so he is going to take his money & retire ringless like Melo.:lol
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Good for the Clips :lol..
A ring isn't Paul top priority, it appears, which is fine..State Farm commercials and living in LA with 36 millions per annum in the bank isn't the worst of fates..
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It's all a done deal until you lose again. :lol
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It's not gonna happen, tbh.
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spursistan
Good for the Clips :lol..
A ring isn't Paul top priority, it appears, which is fine..State Farm commercials and living in LA with 36 millions per annum in the bank isn't the worst of fates..
Disaster in the making.
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Chris Paul Clippers
For months word has been out that Paul, who turns 32 in May, has agreed to a five-year extension that will top the $200 million mark. As one industry source told Forbes.com recently, “It’s all done, with a wink and a nod.’’
No surprise. Despite his failure to lead the Clippers out of the second round once, he’s still viewed as the one player they’d have the most trouble replacing.
Paul could earn close to $36 million next season after earning $22.9 million next season. The Knicks were expected to chase Paul, but it doesn’t appear as if he’s heading anywhere, even if the Clippers have another short playoff run.
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How about Redick instead . . .
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spursistan
A ring isn't Paul top priority, it appears, which is fine..State Farm commercials and living in LA with 36 millions per annum in the bank isn't the worst of fates..
it is imo.
he stays with his team... "a ring isn't a top priority."
he leaves his team... "he's a ring chaser."
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Silly-assed premise for the thread. What's the trade-off? What do the Spurs have to give up to be able to afford to pay CP3 the max? If this is some Fantasy Island question where the Spurs get to pay for CP3 in a vacuum, then why not? He's a hell of a lot better than what we have now. If you want to talk seriously about what it would take to make that happen, you better do the homework on cap and contract effects.
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HarlemHeat37
All-in on George Hill, tbh..he has improved his ball-handling enough to be a competent offensive, starting PG..he can shoot the 3, still a good defensive player that would give the Spurs the best 1-2-3 defensive lineup in the NBA..obviously has the familiarity with the organization, too..
Hill is solid at the point. No gaudy numbers, and not a lot of highlight-reel plays. Just solid. And that's all this team needs right now. I'd kill to have him on the roster going into this post-season. If he's feeling nostalgic, and wants to sign a Danny Green-like contract to come "home", I'd love to see it happen. And, yeah, the 1-2-3 defense would be ugly. I'll go one better - I think LMA made the Spurs' defense better when he got here. I think the Spurs 1-2-3-4 defense would be pretty incredible. That lineup is almost good enough to rival some of the older Spurs teams for defensive dominance, just loaded on the other end. And that might be better for "today's NBA" anyway.
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on the year:
-2nd best assist to turnover ratio (#1 among PGs)
-4th most assists per game (#3 among PGs)
-3rd most steals per game (#2 among PGs)
TS% was .660...
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gambit1990
it is imo.
he stays with his team... "a ring isn't a top priority."
he leaves his team... "he's a ring chaser."
That goes away after youre a champion though. :lol
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GSH
Silly-assed premise for the thread. What's the trade-off? What do the Spurs have to give up to be able to afford to pay CP3 the max? If this is some Fantasy Island question where the Spurs get to pay for CP3 in a vacuum, then why not? He's a hell of a lot better than what we have now. If you want to talk seriously about what it would take to make that happen, you better do the homework on cap and contract effects.
Hill is solid at the point. No gaudy numbers, and not a lot of highlight-reel plays. Just solid. And that's all this team needs right now. I'd kill to have him on the roster going into this post-season. If he's feeling nostalgic, and wants to sign a Danny Green-like contract to come "home", I'd love to see it happen. And, yeah, the 1-2-3 defense would be ugly. I'll go one better - I think LMA made the Spurs' defense better when he got here. I think the Spurs 1-2-3-4 defense would be pretty incredible. That lineup is almost good enough to rival some of the older Spurs teams for defensive dominance, just loaded on the other end. And that might be better for "today's NBA" anyway.
Nostalgic? He was here for like 3 years. I'd love to have him back but I'm not sure he's thinking much about it.
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SpursforSix
Nostalgic? He was here for like 3 years. I'd love to have him back but I'm not sure he's thinking much about it.
Ummm... that's what "nostalgic" means. An attachment to the past? If he'd never been here, he couldn't be nostalgic.
I don't know what the hell Hill is or isn't thinking. I'm just saying. At the right price, I'd love to see him come back. But he'd have to sign at a discount for the Spurs to be able to sign him. That's sort of what the whole "nostalgia" thing was about.
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GSH
Ummm... that's what "nostalgic" means. An attachment to the past? If he'd never been here, he couldn't be nostalgic.
I don't know what the hell Hill is or isn't thinking. I'm just saying. At the right price, I'd love to see him come back. But he'd have to sign at a discount for the Spurs to be able to sign him. That's sort of what the whole "nostalgia" thing was about.
Yeah...for an NBA player, I just don't think 3 years creates much nostalgia. Maybe I'm wrong and maybe Hill has some type of bond with SA. I just don't see it. He got traded and has moved in with a nice career. He's going to go to the highest bidder IMO.
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34 points on 54.5% shooting, 10 assists, 7 rebounds. no blake in the 2nd half.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VY9bIBPIHXk
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Doesn't matter. We aren't going to ring again with the level ot stacking going on now. There are no rivalries any more. Now it's just 30 year old kids never growing up, treating the NBA like a job at Big Lots, just work together and milk the stupid fans for money.
