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Re: Prime Ginobili vs Prime Parker....If you had to choose one for this year's team..
Prime Ginobili led his team to an Olympic gold against NBA players... first ever to claim that victory...
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Re: Prime Ginobili vs Prime Parker....If you had to choose one for this year's team..
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Originally Posted by
GSH
Prime Manu. He was at least as good a PG as Tony, and a better defender. Put prime Manu in the starting PG position, along with Danny, Kawhi, LMA, and Dedmon. In a heartbeat.
There may not be any such thing as a clutch gene, but there sure as hell is such a thing as clutch skill. Five seconds left and the Spurs down by 1? I like prime Manu's chance of getting to the rack and getting a percentage shot as well as just about anyone who ever played. And I'll never forget George Karl claiming that Manu grew his hair long, so that it would fly around when he flopped, and draw more whistles. That's when you know you're in a guy's head.
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Re: Prime Ginobili vs Prime Parker....If you had to choose one for this year's team..
Prime Manu was the better player (by a hair), but the way this year's team is built prime Parker would be the better fit.
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Re: Prime Ginobili vs Prime Parker....If you had to choose one for this year's team..
13' Parker until his injury in the finals was a monster
People just don't remember how clutch he was and how many 30 points blowout cost him better stats and to be in the NBA first team + 2nd or 3rd spot in the MVP race
And this team weakness is at the PG spot
But you can't go wrong with Prime Manu either.
I'm not sure he could play PG the whole game like some posters said though
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Re: Prime Ginobili vs Prime Parker....If you had to choose one for this year's team..
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Originally Posted by
spursistan
Tricky choice..Against Warriors I would take prime Ginobili, but against Clippers/Cleveland I would lean to having prime Parker..
LAC becoming a nightmare match up for us has coincided with Tony falloff..Choke-Paul has stopped making appearances against the Spurs mainly because he's been resting on the other end since circa 2014.
Prime Manu was one of the biggest Clipper killers in the league, regardless of who was on our team.
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Re: Prime Ginobili vs Prime Parker....If you had to choose one for this year's team..
I like prime Manu more as a player but I actually think Prime Parker is better for this team. I hate how Tony's bad play as made some people forget how incredible he was for a few years, but he was legitimately a top 3 point guard for a 2 or 3 year stretch and was one of the best penetrators in the league.
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Re: Prime Ginobili vs Prime Parker....If you had to choose one for this year's team..
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Re: Prime Ginobili vs Prime Parker....If you had to choose one for this year's team..
prime ginobili has a good case for best player ever tbh
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Re: Prime Ginobili vs Prime Parker....If you had to choose one for this year's team..
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Originally Posted by
Raven
prime ginobili has a good case for best player ever tbh
I second that. Look at what he did for D.Blair. He made everyone better. This is a very dumb question. Tony could score... thats it. Over the hill Manu stuffs Durant at the rim going for a break away dunk. Ever see Tony do that?
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Re: Prime Ginobili vs Prime Parker....If you had to choose one for this year's team..
Not to say that after his prime (2005-2007) Manu declined very slowly, being a diference maker as far as the 2011-2012 season (14.4 ppg for the playoffs that year), and had the 2014 Playoffs run also.
Tony on the other hand, declined quite fast, considering everyone here sets his prime between 2010 and 2013, having declined a lot in 3 years.
That means a "prime Manu" gives you almost 7 years of great to good basketball, while "Prime Tony" gives you 4 or 5.
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Re: Prime Ginobili vs Prime Parker....If you had to choose one for this year's team..
Tough choice. Prime Parker's driving ability would make the SL deadly, a lot of their issues stem from the fact that no one can break down the defense and get wide open shots. But prime Manu would be a top 3 SG in today's NBA and his playmaking off the bench and ability to drive would be invaluable...
toss up tbh
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Re: Prime Ginobili vs Prime Parker....If you had to choose one for this year's team..
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Originally Posted by
kaji157
Not to say that after his prime (2005-2007) Manu declined very slowly, being a diference maker as far as the 2011-2012 season (14.4 ppg for the playoffs that year), and had the 2014 Playoffs run also.
Tony on the other hand, declined quite fast, considering everyone here sets his prime between 2010 and 2013, having declined a lot in 3 years.
That means a "prime Manu" gives you almost 7 years of great to good basketball, while "Prime Tony" gives you 4 or 5.
disagree...Parker's prime started in 2006 thru 2013 imo, that's 8 years. if we're going by "being a difference maker" as a definition for "prime," Porker definitely was a difference maker for more than 3 years. Manu's prime was 2005-2011 imo
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Re: Prime Ginobili vs Prime Parker....If you had to choose one for this year's team..
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Re: Prime Ginobili vs Prime Parker....If you had to choose one for this year's team..
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Originally Posted by
spurraider21
prime manu is always appealing because he was an excellent defender, too
You could start Prime Manu with Green and let Green cover the opposing PG's. But have Manu handle the ball on the other end.
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Re: Prime Ginobili vs Prime Parker....If you had to choose one for this year's team..
actually, I'd rather have Prime Parker so we could trade him away for value before he turns to shit.
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Re: Prime Ginobili vs Prime Parker....If you had to choose one for this year's team..
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Originally Posted by
Joseph Kony
Tough choice. Prime Parker's driving ability would make the SL deadly, a lot of their issues stem from the fact that no one can break down the defense and get wide open shots. But prime Manu would be a top 3 SG in today's NBA and his playmaking off the bench and ability to drive would be invaluable...
toss up tbh
I think prime manu would be Nș 1 SG today. Harden, Thompson or Butler aren't good as manu was.
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Re: Prime Ginobili vs Prime Parker....If you had to choose one for this year's team..
That's a tough one! Both great players, don't listen to the haters, they are future hall of famers and if that's not good enough I am not sure what's wrong with you guys.
Anyways, Manu was kobe like good in the last 5min of close games and is one of the best closers the game has even seen. Tony was elite scoring near the basket and did better than most centers! That's unbelievable for a point guard.
My choice would be Manu, simply because he could attack the basket, and create for himself and others at an elite level. Prime Tony might still struggle against CP3 and Steph, at certain nights. But I would take either of them over the current version of themselves we have this year.
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Re: Prime Ginobili vs Prime Parker....If you had to choose one for this year's team..
You ask Pop and he'll say Manu tbh.
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Re: Prime Ginobili vs Prime Parker....If you had to choose one for this year's team..
Parker. As great as Manu was, we would still need a PG. Parker in 2007 was a scorer who could get to the basket over and over, and was also an underrated defender. His ability to get in the paint and break down the defense would improve our spacing and get the 3pt shooting open.
If you choose Manu, then he would take a lot of minutes from Green which would diminish the defense. That is why I pick prime Parker for this question, not necessarily the same as who was the best player in their prime- Manu. I rate Manu higher in peak value and Parker higher in career value.
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Re: Prime Ginobili vs Prime Parker....If you had to choose one for this year's team..
Manu's prime wasn't even on 2005. Manu's prime was wasted by getting late to the NBA, tbh.
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Re: Prime Ginobili vs Prime Parker....If you had to choose one for this year's team..
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Originally Posted by
Joseph Kony
Tough choice. Prime Parker's driving ability would make the SL deadly, a lot of their issues stem from the fact that no one can break down the defense and get wide open shots. But prime Manu would be a top 3 SG in today's NBA and his playmaking off the bench and ability to drive would be invaluable...
toss up tbh
Prime Manu would easily be the best SG in today's NBA, tbh.
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Re: Prime Ginobili vs Prime Parker....If you had to choose one for this year's team..
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Originally Posted by
Raven
prime ginobili has a good case for best player ever tbh
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Originally Posted by
BSfromTX
I second that.
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Originally Posted by
daledondale
I think prime manu would be Nș 1 SG today. Harden, Thompson or Butler aren't good as manu was.
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Originally Posted by
FkLA
Prime Manu would easily be the best SG in today's NBA, tbh.
When harden is at least top 3 in the MVP race...
You all have a good case for best homer ever tbh
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Re: Prime Ginobili vs Prime Parker....If you had to choose one for this year's team..
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Originally Posted by
eric365
When harden is at least top 3 in the MVP race...
You all have a good case for best homer ever tbh
Or maybe you are a faggot. Manu was a better playmaker and defender than Harden, if you don't see that, maybe you didn't saw Manu play.
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Re: Prime Ginobili vs Prime Parker....If you had to choose one for this year's team..