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Lebron on why Pop is GOAT
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"He's the greatest coach of all time. I've said that over and over and over. You've got to be to do what he's done in the era of basketball when it's changed so much and he's been able to have a growth mindset and be able to change with the game. He's continued to build around Timmy [Duncan] and Manu [Ginobili] and Tony [Parker] and bring pieces in and out throughout his whole tenure.
"It went from a league where it was like, inside/outside. Like every time you bring the ball down, throw it to the big. Then it goes to every time down, pick-and-roll. Then it goes to every time down, shoot a three. Pop has been able to adjust every single time and still somehow keep those guys under the radar. I don't understand that."
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...rts-topstories
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GOATs respecting GOATs tbh.
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See, that's why that podcast about LeBron supposedly getting upset about Kawhi getting too much attention didn't play with me. LeBron has been pretty good about recognizing other players' and coaches' abilities. I'm not saying he isn't full of himself, but he's not usually one to talk down another player without some reason. I still think he probably made some off-handed comment, and that podcast jackass spun it for attention.
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Yet when he mentioned the players Pop has built around, there's no Kawhi in there. :stirpot:
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I don't think anything Lebron said is particularly false, but i'm still pissed at the fact that he gets way too much credit for Duncan three championship rings.
It's all the cliche narrative now. Which is unfortunate. Great for Pop's brand but otherwise undervalues the players greatly.
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Originally Posted by
Chinook
Yet when he mentioned the players Pop has built around, there's no Kawhi in there. :stirpot:
:lol Et tu, Chinook?
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Originally Posted by
apalisoc_9
I don't think anything Lebron said is particularly false, but i'm still pissed at the fact that he gets way too much credit for Duncan three championship rings.
It's all the cliche narrative now. Which is unfortunate. Great for Pop's brand but otherwise undervalues the players greatly.
Nobody gives a shit what you're pissed about
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Originally Posted by
Chinook
Yet when he mentioned the players Pop has built around, there's no Kawhi in there. :stirpot:
Of course he didn't. Then he would've had to name all the other role players (Splitter, Paddy, Diaw, etc)
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Originally Posted by
DisAsTerBot
Nobody gives a shit what you're pissed about
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Originally Posted by
apalisoc_9
I don't think anything Lebron said is particularly false, but i'm still pissed at the fact that he gets way too much credit for Duncan three championship rings.
It's all the cliche narrative now. Which is unfortunate. Great for Pop's brand but otherwise undervalues the players greatly.
So what are the odds of me coming to your defense? :lol
Pop is a great coach, but with Tim, Tony, and Manu plus great role players like Robert Horry, Mario Elie, Steve Kerr... hell David Robinson? He definitely got a lot of help. I don't think he would have had the same level of success coaching in New Orleans. He always gives players credit, but it does feel a little like false modesty to me at times.
TBH, you used to have a half dozen threads on the front page every damn day. But you quit doing that shit. I'm not one to disregard a valid comment because of some other comment I didn't like.
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But i thought he was the worst coach ever these days?
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Micromanaging player/coach/GM recognizing Micromanaging coach
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Originally Posted by
bklynspursfan
But i thought he was the worst coach ever these days?
He's the 10th best ever. But the top 9 all post on this board.
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Originally Posted by
GSH
So what are the odds of me coming to your defense? :lol
Pop is a great coach, but with Tim, Tony, and Manu plus great role players like Robert Horry, Mario Elie, Steve Kerr... hell David Robinson? He definitely got a lot of help. I don't think he would have had the same level of success coaching in New Orleans. He always gives players credit, but it does feel a little like false modesty to me at times.
TBH, you used to have a half dozen threads on the front page every damn day. But you quit doing that shit. I'm not one to disregard a valid comment because of some other comment I didn't like.
It is fake modesty.
Pop wants everything to be about him.
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DisAsTerBot
Nobody gives a shit what you're pissed about
What you should be pissed about is that you came all the way over here in the hull of that freighter thinking Obama was going to raise you and you get here and there's a wall of separation being erected between the 3rd world and the real world. You'd been Trumped.
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Pop is the greatest, I agree with LeBron, but this is classic LeBron subtle shots, tbh:lol
The true meaning of his comment:
1. Fuck Phil Jackson
2. Fuck Pat Riley
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Originally Posted by
HarlemHeat37
Pop is the greatest, I agree with LeBron, but this is classic LeBron subtle shots, tbh:lol
The true meaning of his comment:
1. Fuck Phil Jackson
2. Fuck Pat Riley
That and his best players weren't as good as theirs were, which is really the crux of all the Pop praise in general.
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Originally Posted by
TD 21
That and his best players weren't as good as theirs were, which is really the crux of all the Pop praise in general.
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LeBron opting out next year to join Spurs tbh
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Originally Posted by
HarlemHeat37
Pop is the greatest, I agree with LeBron, but this is classic LeBron subtle shots, tbh:lol
The true meaning of his comment:
1. Fuck Phil Jackson
2. Fuck Pat Riley
Yep
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Originally Posted by
Canyonero
LeBron opting out next year to join Spurs tbh
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Canyonero
LeBron opting out next year to join Spurs tbh
I heard he's joining the Sixers next season. He wants to be apart of "The Process"
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:lol Another shot at Kawhi, "pieces"
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Originally Posted by
UZER
:lol Another shot at Kawhi, "pieces"
Im sure he didn't even have him in mind. He only spoke about future HOF's
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Originally Posted by
TheGreatYacht
Im sure he didn't even have him in mind. He only spoke about future HOF's
LeBron is very very calculated with everything he says. He didn't dis Kawhi obviously, but he purposely didn't mention him either.
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Also, If he praises Pop he's got another excuse for how he has been basically owned by the Spurs throughout the years. He can blame it on his coaches being outcoached :wakeup
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People say this is about Phil and Riley but this isn't the first time LeBron has called him the greatest.
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Pop is the best coach ever and LeBron is in the top 5 greatest players in my book. A nice compliment by LeBron.
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Of course he loves him. Gave him a ring in 13 and simply saved his legacy.
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I'm reading the article on how Lebron says Pop coaching is a big factor in making his decision to play for USA BBall.
Why isn't the headline that Lebron thinks of Pop as Michael Corleone? It's in the same interview. That's pretty badass.
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http://www.hotel-r.net/im/hotel/ch/posse-23.png
Lebron respects Pop because he never mentioned Lebrons friendship with Mario Van Peebles or that his only white friend is Stephen Baldwin.
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Originally Posted by
elemento
Of course he loves him. Gave him a ring in 13 and simply saved his legacy.
:lol:lol
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Originally Posted by
Chinook
Yet when he mentioned the players Pop has built around, there's no Kawhi in there. :stirpot:
Thats to come hopefully. 4 championships later.
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Hope he plays Bertans more in the coming games......
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This thread has about run its course. But I thought it would be a good place to put this little gem of an interview. It's essentially "Lebron on why Lebron is GOAT". And when you're GOAT, you're always responsible for wins, but never responsible for losses. Because you're GOAT. How do you think Pop would react to a player making public comments about personnel and minutes decisions like this? Then again, can you even imagine Tim Duncan demanding that the Spurs make a mid-season acquisition, because he was getting older and didn't "have any time to waste"? Even if what Lebron says is true, airing it out publicly like this? And what if he gets his "playmaker" and they still lose?
http://www.nba.com/article/2017/01/2...nd-jan-24-2017
"It's like when you don't have bodies. It's tough," James said. "The f---ing grind of the regular season. We're a top-heavy team. We have a top-heavy team. We top-heavy as s---. It's me, [Kyrie Irving], [Kevin Love]. It's top-heavy."
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"We need a f---ing playmaker," James said. "I'm not saying you can just go find one, like you can go outside and see trees. I didn't say that."
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"They've got bodies," James said of San Antonio when asked about the Spurs' beating the Cavs without*Pau Gasol*or*Tony Parker. "They've got bodies. For the most part, all championship-contending teams has got guys that are ready to step in. Knock on wood, what if Ky goes down? For two weeks. Let's say two. What if I went down for three weeks?"
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"I don't know what we got to offer," James said. "I just know me, personally? I don't got no time to waste. I'll be 33 in the winter, and I ain't got time to waste. That's what I'm talking about.
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Originally Posted by
elemento
Of course he loves him. Gave him a ring in 13 and simply saved his legacy.
Then sent him packing back to Cleveland the following year, so he could bring a championship to his hometown.
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So what would it take to make the Cav's GM happy?
http://www.nba.com/article/2017/01/2...d-lebron-james
John Schuhmann:*The only way to get Anthony or Wade is by trading one of the other two stars or by sacrificing depth, so that's not happening. The Cavs need a back-up point guard and miss Matthew Dellavedova, who*didn't play much in the last three games of The Finals last year, but was really important in the regular season. The lack of depth isn't all David Griffin's fault, because coach Ty Lue hasn't exactly developed the Cavs' bench, using a short (nine-man) rotation for most*of the season. One of the reasons the Spurs continue to*have the best bench in the league despite a lot of roster*turnover is that Gregg Popovich gives young guys opportunities to play
Fran Blinebury:*Magic Johnson, John Stockton, Bob Cousy? LeBron gets offended when people say he's the de facto GM of the Cavs. Yet here he is whining again about David Griffin not doing the job to his satisfaction. So how can we say this gently: Shut up and play.
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Originally Posted by
NameLess Scrub
Also, If he praises Pop he's got another excuse for how he has been basically owned by the Spurs throughout the years. He can blame it on his coaches being outcoached :wakeup
He kind of made an excuse or at least accepted one that they weren't prepared to play against the Pelicans without Davis, as if it's somehow a disadvantage for you if your opponent has their best player sidelined.
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I smell BS with Lebron sucking up to Pop. Its like hes saying, "if only I had a coach like you Id win, 'not four, not five, not six....'". I swear to God hes a genius at making excuses....having a fall back if it dont work out. :lol
Everytime I forgive and forget about Lebron he opens his mouth again.
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Lebron is overrated. I swear I was watching the game and its like a broken record, when it gets to be nervous time, Lebron chucks. Its been like that since hes come into the league. He cant handle it when someone does not let him dominate. He doesnt want a fight or grind at all.
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Originally Posted by
DMC
He kind of made an excuse or at least accepted one that they weren't prepared to play against the Pelicans without Davis, as if it's somehow a disadvantage for you if your opponent has their best player sidelined.
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skulls138
I smell BS with Lebron sucking up to Pop. Its like hes saying, "if only I had a coach like you Id win, 'not four, not five, not six....'". I swear to God hes a genius at making excuses....having a fall back if it dont work out. :lol
Everytime I forgive and forget about Lebron he opens his mouth again.
I suspect that's part of the game for him. Knowing how to set up excuses and cover as much bases as he can to benefit himself when the narrative is established, win or lose. Part of the result of the scrutiny; but the scrutiny is the result of the hype.
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Originally Posted by
NameLess Scrub
I suspect that's part of the game for him. Knowing how to set up excuses and cover as much bases as he can to benefit himself when the narrative is established, win or lose. Part of the result of the scrutiny; but the scrutiny is the result of the hype.
It's a dangerous game. Legends never make excuses for losing unless they want their epitaph to read "coward". You win or you don't, it's largely up to him. Most GOAT level players would never stoop to make an excuse for losing. Fortunate for him he's at least turning much of his ire inward.