He never preforms against relevant teams.
Should we cash him out and fully build around Murray and Leonard?
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He never preforms against relevant teams.
Should we cash him out and fully build around Murray and Leonard?
Those irrelevant-ass Golden State Warriors.
Not and shot the fuck up
But forum experts said it was a fluke gameQuote:
Originally Posted by Chinook
For who?? Melo??
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Originally Posted by coachmac87
I was thinking Jimmy Butler
I guess he wasn't putting up 40 in a few games against a team with Adams and Ibaka last year in the playoffs
And who plays the 4?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cklbmk
Lol. What a stupid question..of course we should. He's a soft ass faggot. Worthless piece of shit when it matters.
Aldridge played fine on offense and on the boards, tbh..he's never going to dominate Thompson in the post, but it doesn't matter..
He wasn't that good defensively, but nobody really was for the Spurs outside of Kyle..tough to play defense vs. the Cavs on the road..
FatheadQuote:
Originally Posted by coachmac87
Spurs trade LMA + Danny for Butler + RoLoQuote:
Originally Posted by coachmac87
Season with pick(s) as necessary.
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Originally Posted by coachmac87
DavidLee.
Aldridge was the teams defensive anchor last night.Whether it was on a switch, man on man or team defense he was there. Majority of the time Aldridge was involved the team got the stop . In a way he allowed Kawai to concentrate on offense . The middle was soft when he sat the bench.
On offense he picked his spots, didnt force it against Thompson whos a great post defender & got others involved with 6 assists.
A trade request after beating last years champs minus 2 key role players. Keep it up spurs fans. Lol
People don't realize he is the anchor of this defense much like Duncan was. When he's out of the game, the defense usually plays horrible against smart teams. He rebounds and gets assists, and forces the defense to not cheat off him, opens the lanes, spreads the floor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Slippy
There are 2 or 3 guys in the NBA that could do what he does for the spurs.. I'm always up for upgrading, but how do you get better? Second best record and undefeated against the top two contenders at their home...
Perfection obsession is real.
Great post after a solid win against the defending champions, I will recommend it to my wife and her friends!
I doubt very much there are any trades.. Frankly the team is doing very well, and that weighs in favor of standing pat.
Not this season, too important. But if they lose 3 or more of Manu, Simmons, DD, Lee, and Mills this summer, then next year becomes a retool year. I might consider seeing what I can get for LMA and Danny.
If I was RC I would only do LMA+Danny for Butler+Rondo+Nico. I like the thought of Butler and Leonard giving the Warriors a huge damn headache.Quote:
Originally Posted by sasaint
Who's changed their mind now
i defend LMA quite a bit but dude is playing scared of a 39 year old guard :lol
His head is definitely somewhere else a lot this season
Yes...fuck that POS...
Get Melo and speed the process for Bertans aka "the future all-star".
Tony
Green
Kawhi
Bertans
Pau
Mills
Manu
Melo
Lee
Dedmon.
assume you're trading Gasol too to somewhat make salaries match. Or completely ignoring them.Quote:
Originally Posted by DAF86
I didn't check the numbers but Melos and LAs salaries must not be so far off.Quote:
Originally Posted by cjw
I misread and thought you were trading Bertans for Melo. LMA wouldn't survive in NY in a million yearsQuote:
Originally Posted by DAF86
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Originally Posted by cjw
Not our problem once he ships out
Yes
As one of the biggest Aldridge haters on this forum, he's actually playing like I would like him to play as an individual player, ironically:lol He has become a super role player(like Thunder Ibaka, for example)..
Unfortunately, the Spurs are built around him being the #2 option that can carry a load, and he hasn't been anywhere near that player, offensively..
Hell fckn NO.
You want KL in a complete bottle, trade Aldridge.
Bunch of fn wet cliff jumping tampons.
Yes. He's not built for this role.
I'm seriously starting to think this is the way to go. Let's face it, we are never going to ring with LA as the second option. Our chances of ringing cling on Murray and Bertans development in the next few years and/or the moves we could make. Speeding up the process of at least Bertans could be beneficiary for the near future. Switching a midrange shooter (LA) for a three point shooter (Bertans), in the SL, is another win for in today's NBA, tbh.
Bertans is gone next year. Only a one season contract.Quote:
Originally Posted by DAF86
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Originally Posted by pgardn
We re-sign him, tbh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darius Bieber
I'd keep him for this season. I'd move him after the season if looking forward I thought he was going to want a bigger contract than he's worth.
Do you seriously think that trading LA for a decent wing and a third string Center would limit this team's WCF ceiling? At this point, I trully don't.
Agree with Harlem in how he needs to be like OKCs Ibaka ( value tied to interior & PnR defense & boards). His offense is incredibly limited due to his inefficiency outside of his overrated mid range.
Aldridge is too predictable and too sloppy on the block. Smart teams never double ...those open 3s on strong side Danny gets vs the Kings and Lakers are fools gold. Ive been saying this after a lot of ST bold and greys overrate his true offensive value. He doesnt create good looks with the ball for himself or anyone...hes just a finisher that can Pop out in PnRs.
Something along the lines of Terrence Ross and Lucas Nogueira.Quote:
Originally Posted by DAF86
Well he still get doubled a ton. I think you are giving him the Melo treatment and taking the hate too far. He has a legit shot out to the 3point line. He's just struggling.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaNu4Tres
He's never going to be mega efficient and you are correct about his post game (he needs to keep working on seeing doubles better) but he still has plenty of gravity.
:lolQuote:
Originally Posted by DAF86
Agreed on Aldridge. Not understanding the love for him at all. He couldn't even get the blazers out of the first round of the playoffs. But Ibaka didn't have a ton of success outside of playing against the Spurs and OKC never won the title.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaNu4Tres
That's how low I think of him right now, tbh. :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37
If it could get done I would trade him for nothing but draft picks. I honestly think this team wouldn't miss a beat without his softass turnaround bricks. We are beating any 1st round team, and he's not a game changer against any possible 2nd round opponent, against a healthy Clippers team we're losing either way, and we can beat the Rockets and Jazz without him.
Even just his defense gives SA a chance against anyone outside of GSQuote:
Originally Posted by DAF86
Trade him for Robin Lopez if you want defense. I might be overreacting right now, but my patience just ran out with his inefficient, sissy ass offensive game.Quote:
Originally Posted by DPG21920
Here's to hoping this is rock bottom for him and he picks it up from here, as he did last season.
No. You're not going to get equal value in return. He's annoyingly soft and inconsistent, and will always be inefficient, but he's still easily our best #2 option, so we gotta roll with him. Just have to hope he becomes more consistent and mans up for the playoffs.
Everybody knows how much I dislike Aldridge(the infamous 80+ page thread from last year:lol), but he's actually been a legitimate defensive anchor, this season..he has been extremely disappointing offensively, but he has become one of the best super role players in the NBA(Ibaka, Bosh, Gobert type)..
You trade LA now and no big free agent will ever come here again
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Originally Posted by BatManu20
The second best option (in terms high % shot creation might be the third string point guard tbh..
Big FAs hardly jump ship after their 2nd deals. The new CBA is making it even harder with longer deals now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blake
Spurs will go from 1 big free agent in 2 decades of greatness, to none? Huge drop off tbhQuote:
Originally Posted by Blake
Willing to give it a try
I was surprised to find that he's shooting 49% this year, seems like 33%.
we know he has another gear, maybe even 2, just got to hope he uses them in the playoffs
I sleep through one game, and the world falls apart...
it was 81+ before some deleted posts tbh :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37
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Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht
The blocks by Carter are just a perfect encapsulation of Softridge's game. Zero heart and aggression. Nothing kills me like a soft quasi-7 footer and we have two. Other than the first few games of the OKC series last year (and the first game this year), he's been mediocre at best and anemic at worst. Trade his ass.
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Originally Posted by Darius Bieber
Wrong.
He's under contract next year also then hes RFA
It's not just 1 game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chinook
It's like 6/10 games.
Aldridge was never a good defender... when the shot is not falling he is useless, like Parker
No. I don't see why anyone cares at all what he does versus weak teams. We already know what he can do in the post-season. Everything else is just spinning wheels. Then again, you want to drop two firsts to bring in Rubio, so we just aren't going to agree on the roster in all likelihood.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cklbmk
I'm not talking just super stars. I'm talking about David West, Pau, Brent Barry type guys tooQuote:
Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht
I want him to success here. This might just be a result of his poor work ethic in the offseason.
Hope he really turns it on in the playoffs. I think any idea of trading him is for discussion / fantasizing only.
I don't think you trade him now. We should let the season play out and if we flame out in the playoffs then trade him near the draft.
melo and LMA are the same head case with different skill sets.Quote:
Originally Posted by DAF86
Still waiting for someone on the trading LA bandwagon to come up with a legit deal...
You mean the Spurs can't win it all with Amir Johnson as their starting PF?Quote:
Originally Posted by coachmac87
I think you are confused.Quote:
Originally Posted by kuato
Thats Mills
Maybe they can't win it all with Mr Charmin Softridge either.. there are some who want to build for the future... Still this game Kawhi and Pau didn't play and what no one will talk about: Mr Rising Star The Juice played like a dleague scrub.... I would steerr away from overpaying Juice. He's going to be 28, stat pads in garbage time, the Spurs have lost both game he started and he has a streaky slow jumper. For a small contract commensurate with a small role as a 10th guy he's good value. I think I am with HarlemHeat37 when it comes to him. If he's going to be overpaid in the offseason, it will be a mistake....Quote:
Originally Posted by Chinook
Anyways Lamarcus struggled and It was compounded by Spurs shooters being cold.
I won't overreact to a trade lynch mob bc both Kawhi and Pau were not playing. With better offensive players beside him maybe he turns things on in the postseason and this is just a meaningless game. Hopefully.
Lmao...only if they bring back Kevin MartinQuote:
Originally Posted by Chinook
yes, he and parker.
All I can say is that I hope you aren't managing your own 401K's.
Melo can at least attack the rim and volume 3pt shoot.Quote:
Originally Posted by rjv
How dare you mention the latest Tom Riddle.Quote:
Originally Posted by coachmac87
They wouldn't really be able to replace Aldridge's impact, tbh..
Ideally, the Spurs would acquire a penetrating guard and another shooter..statistically, the Spurs are a bottom-level team at the drive and kick, which is worrisome when compared to their peers:
Houston #2
Golden State #7
Cleveland #9
Spurs #21(only Memphis and Utah are worse among playoff teams in either conference, and the latter has been killed by injuries to their guards)
Unfortunately, losing Aldridge would kill the team's defense and lower its ceiling(since he's still an effective scorer when he's hot), though..Dedmon could replace his defense for stretches, but he's a foul machine that can't give you more than 15 MPG(and doesn't have an offensive game)..Pau could replace his offense, but he's nowhere near the defender..
What trade would you target for Aldridge? Is Cousins being shopped at all? Maybe target some plays from Pacers or Minny? PG13/Miles Turner/WigginsQuote:
Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37
trading la alone won't magically fix things.
you still have parker, who managed to put up 2 assists and 2 turnovers in 29 minutes last night.
I'm for trading him tbhQuote:
Originally Posted by gambit1990
:lolQuote:
Originally Posted by GSH
Attacking for a year old post that was prior to Murray's relevancy and traded players no longer on the team? Come on you're better than thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Chinook
I'm not attacking you. This is Spurstalk. Attacks don't have to be subtle here. You and I just fundamentally do not agree on the roster. In the same way you thought guys like Rubio were upgrades, you think it's possible to upgrade from LMA. Or you believe that the Spurs should not push to win this season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cklbmk
are the spurs still interested in ibaka?
There's no realistic trade for Aldridge that would make the Spurs better, tbh..Quote:
Originally Posted by Spurs9
Realistically, the Spurs probably aren't winning a title until they improve their PG situation, barring injury..Parker is virtually useless and Mills is a SG..every other top team has good to great PGs(Curry, Harden, Paul, Conley, Westbrook, Kyrie, Wall, Lowry, Thomas)..
Sucks, because the Spurs wouldn't even need a star at PG like Curry or Westbrook..a really good PG like Dragic or even an above average guy like Hill would be fine..
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Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37
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Aldridge and a 1st round pick for Ibaka, Gordon and Hezonja would be a fair trade and one that would bring in the youth to build around Kawhi.Quote:
Originally Posted by gambit1990
Aldridge is one of the best big man defenders in the league so even if he's not great offensively hes got that
Ibaka will get paid more than what LMA will earn next year.
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Originally Posted by Chinook
I think theres better fits which would be better for us. Not really a better player, but Ibaka would be a better fit here.
Rubio would be an upgrade to Parker and Mills also
Spurs should do a trade if it presents itself. Aldridge is never going to be the guy they want him to. I hope im wrong, but I just dont see it.
I'd like Ibaka, but I wouldn't trade Aldridge for him. Next season Ibaka will probably get a bigger contract than what Aldridge has now, and he's not a better player than Aldridge. I certainly wouldn't want to trade LA for Ibaka and then have to pay Ibaka more money to stay next season than what Aldridge is getting now. If we could somehow get him as a rental for the rest of this season without giving up Kawhi or LA I'd do it.
I doubt that Ibaka will get a bigger contract next season than Aldridge is getting paid this season. But his being on an expiring contract is not necessarily a bad thing. The Spurs would have his Bird rights. But even if the team let Ibaka walk, that would clear cap space if the Spurs wanted to pursue Griffin. JaMychal Green and other options will also be available for less money, leaving cap space for even another significant signing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ice009
while i've been on board to trade lma, the main problem is parker.
part of the reason i'm willing to trade lma is so that we can package tony.
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Originally Posted by xtremesteven33
Well he's not ever going to be the guy ST wants, that's for fucking sure. Most people here say they wouldn't want LeBron. Definitely not Curry. They think Draymond is overrated AF. Durant is a cuck. Westbrick is a loser. Harden? Don't even talk about Harden. SpursTalk hates all those guys, and would never want them on the team.
Strangely, most of them WOULD trade the whole team for Porzingis or the Greek Freak. But as soon as they got here, people would be screaming to trade them too. Why should LMA get any special treatment?
LOL. If we can package Tony with LA, then forget about everything I've said. I'll fly to the US, drive them to the airport and then fly back to my own country without even going anywhere else.Quote:
Originally Posted by gambit1990
Agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37
But, would Griffin for Aldridge make the Spurs better or strictly a lateral move?
If Chicago would be game, do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by sasaint
I initially thought you meant Butler and Rhondo. ^^
LOL. No! Robin Lopez, a true center who plays hard and doesn't shy away from contact.Quote:
Originally Posted by MultiTroll
It really sucks thinking about trading for Butler as I was looking at the 2011 draft earlier today.Quote:
Originally Posted by MultiTroll
29th pick Spurs draft Cory Joseph
30th pick Bulls draft Jimmy Butler
59th pick Spurs draft Adam Hanga
60th pick Kings draft Isaiah Thomas
I know drafting is hit and miss, but those two players were picked right after the Spurs' picks, so it kind of makes me feel like more of a close miss. So close yet so far type of thing. Spurs could have left that draft with a haul of Kawhi, Butler, Bertans and Thomas. That's almost a whole starting 5. I'm most upset about Isaiah Thomas. I loved the way he played the first time I saw him in a Kings uniform, thought he would have been sick off the bench for the Spurs - A superior version of Speedy Claxton. He's really turned himself into an amazing player. Anyone seen what he's been doing this season? Not sure if he can keep up his current play, but it appears that he's getting better and better.