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If Murray didn't jaw at Irving...
would he have closed the game or would Pop still have benched him? Was it a "he needs to get over himself" moment or was he more concerned with his defense?
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SpurPadre
would he have closed the game or would Pop still have benched him? Was it a "he needs to get over himself" moment or was he more concerned with his defense?
The latter, most likely. Plus, he usually just doesn't trust rook's in crunch time. But Murray's time is coming, and it's coming quickly.
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I think he'll get addressed on that issue, yeah.
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Even during that Denver game, he'd stare at the bench when he hit a couple shots so I'm sure Pop noticed that too.
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Actually thought of that. He was playing great and suddenly benched
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SpurPadre
Even during that Denver game, he'd stare at the bench when he hit a couple shots so I'm sure Pop noticed that too.
The Bobby Knight of the NBA can't have that at Spurs University. Need to tear him down, let him know his scholarship can be recalled.
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No way he would've played in the 4th and overtime. He made some runners, but he also got his pocket picked a couple times and that won't get you crunch time minutes.
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I remember seeing Murray get into it with Liggins before the time out was called but could only see a brief glimpse of it and the cameras immediately panned away. After that scuffle Murray never played again. Pop also had it in for Bertans when he got into a scuffle with Monroe. This one of the things I can't stand about Pop is he really has it in for guys who stand up for themselves and fight back from being bullied by other players. Pop prefers passive resistance which to me is bs.
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He better dead it soon or he won't be a Spur for long, tbh..Pop's leash for outspoken or arrogant Black American players is very short..he usually avoids them, altogether..
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He was benched because he was too erratic and in a close game, it's difficult to trust players like that in the 4th.
So Pop opted for Mills, Ginobili and Leonard handling the ball....
But he was huge in the minutes he played. Really showed up against Kyrie and he took it to heart..Guy wanted to own Kyrie. :lol
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cd98
No way he would've played in the 4th and overtime. He made some runners, but he also got his pocket picked a couple times and that won't get you crunch time minutes.
Yes sir
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Wasn't he jawing w/ their scrub defender Liggins?
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Kawhitstorm
Wasn't he jawing w/ their scrub defender Liggins?
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Kawhitstorm
Wasn't he jawing w/ their scrub defender Liggins?
Both of them, tbh.
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HarlemHeat37
He better dead it soon or he won't be a Spur for long, tbh..Pop's leash for outspoken or arrogant Black American players is very short..he usually avoids them, altogether..
Who's got time for arrogance, period.
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yea i love murray...love the fire...but let it come out in your play...not these scrums with scrubs...he is LEVELS above these dudes...
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No one has video of this?
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apalisoc_9
He was benched because he was too erratic and in a close game, it's difficult to trust players like that in the 4th.
So Pop opted for Mills, Ginobili and Leonard handling the ball....
But he was huge in the minutes he played. Really showed up against Kyrie and he took it to heart..Guy wanted to own Kyrie. :lol
:tu
Even if he weren't, it was too soon to trust him against an elite team, on the road no less. Besides, the ball was primarily going to be in Leonard's hands down the stretch anyway and they were already closing with a limited shooter, so having two probably would have swung the game.
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jermaine
No one has video of this?
That's what Putin said.
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He didn't handle double teams very well, so I doubt Pop trusts him just yet with game on the line.
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:lol You Pop haters are too funny!
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Such a soft fanbase... Melting down at every little decision
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HarlemHeat37
He better dead it soon or he won't be a Spur for long, tbh..Pop's leash for outspoken or arrogant Black American players is very short..he usually avoids them, altogether..
Has nothing to do with arrogant black players dude. Its arrogance altogether. (And I don't think that's why Murray didn't play late. He's a rookie, its not surprising) Idk why you keep making this about race
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HarlemHeat37 makes everything about race.
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HarlemHeat37
He better dead it soon or he won't be a Spur for long, tbh..Pop's leash for outspoken or arrogant Black American players is very short..he usually avoids them, altogether..
typical liberal tbh
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I'm glad Murray's showing promise so soon. Hopefully it translates to us not overpaying for Mills this summer.
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picnroll
HarlemHeat37 makes everything about race.
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bklynspursfan
Has nothing to do with arrogant black players dude. Its arrogance altogether. (And I don't think that's why Murray didn't play late. He's a rookie, its not surprising) Idk why you keep making this about race
Harlem is a troll and the race shtick is one of his many shticks he uses to troll.
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cd98
No way he would've played in the 4th and overtime. He made some runners, but he also got his pocket picked a couple times and that won't get you crunch time minutes.
this
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Murray is going to add swag and attitude to this team, but it will still need to be tempered by the overall culture of humility.
Won't be the last time Pop pulls him when no one else is ready for him to come out.
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There was definitely a lot of talking from Murray. First with with Riggens , with Irving (which I missed) & then with POP on the offensive end. Not sure what it was about. Therewas a bit of finger pointing . After the Pop convo, he was benched for good.
Sad really, because this the coach that preaches getting over yourselfs. Seems like a one way street to most observers. Murray was showing fire, scoring with ease on dribble penetration & the pull up jumper.
Maybe not closed but he should of seen more mins in the 4th.
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After watching a replay of the game, I don't think Pop was punishing Murray. I mean, Murray played in the fourth and had stopped scoring and was basically dribbling up and passing and then going to the weak side for the entire play. I think bringing Mills in was about the timing of the game and Mills' ability to shoot and spread the court a little more. And of course, in overtime, he was going to stick with Mills for his shooting and experience. It was clear that Mills was always going to close out the 4th and he came in midway through the 4th, so that's more of a natural substitution pattern that I would expect.
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Interesting how Spurs rookies are all jumping into fights!
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picnroll
HarlemHeat37 makes everything about race.
To be fair, race also makes everything about HarlemHeat37
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Chinook
To be fair, race also makes everything about HarlemHeat37
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Solid D
He didn't handle double teams very well, so I doubt Pop trusts him just yet with game on the line.
source?
#expressnewsprobably
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SequSpur
source?
#expressnewsprobably
Clown. Glad you popped your head up, my friend. Glad to see you around.
Seriously, though, I guess Pop decided to trust Dejounte in crunch time against the Raptors.