Thunder @ Spurs - Game Grades 1/31

The Spurs faced the new look OKC Thunder (or should I say the shit look OKC Thunder since they lost Durant, Ibaka, and didn't have Kanter tonight) and while this may not be your slightly older brother's OKC, the Thunder have always been a thorn in the Spurs side. Last season they were responsible for another let down for the Spurs in the playoffs as their size was too much for the Spurs to overcome along with Durant playing out of his mind and Westbrook being Westbrook. This season they still have Westbrook who causes all kinds of headaches as well as Steven Adams who was a huge catalyst for OKC round house kicking the Spurs after Game 3 of that respective series.

Tonight the Spurs started Dedmon/Aldridge/Kawhi/Green/Parker and that folks is a starting lineup I'd love to see more often. I'm not crazy about Pau at all this season, his defense is one of the worst for a starting big man in this league and his offense just doesn't generate enough to offset his poor defense. Dedmon had been up and down defensively lately but tonight we saw how much he can really bring and scored a majority of his points around the rim, many being generated from straight up hustle. Gasol likes to park himself 20 feet from the basket as does Aldridge (who seems to be less confident in his post game than ever) so I like having Dedmon around the rim which still gives Aldridge room to operate from mid range when necessary.

It was really nice to see the Spurs be so aggressive around the basket instead of settling for jumpers and giving the opposing defense an easy time. Parker, Lee, and Dedmon were all great at attacking the rim and causing havoc to a scrambling Thunder team. However, after coming out firing in the beginning of the third quarter, the Spurs completely fell apart and the Thunder rallied all the way back to take a 3 point lead with a couple minutes left in the third. Mills hit a huge three, and Kawhi went in total fuck you mode the rest of the game to help the Spurs open up the floodgates to a much needed win to right the ship. Aldridge and Simmons were also great in the second half with Aldridge playing some of his best defense of the season.

A nice win, but the elephant in the room is the team's atrocious free throw shooting. They nearly blew the Cleveland game with some horrid FT shooting, and lost a handful of close games this season that could have been solved at the FT line. On the upside, it was nice to see them be aggressive to earn 38 (!) free throws, but giving up 32 free throws on the other end isn't going to help. The defense was also pretty damn good on the whole. The second and third quarters got a little ugly, but the fourth quarter was really nice to see and holding the Thunder to 35% shooting for the night was great. While I can count on two fingers the number of games where the Spurs played really well for 48 minutes, it's hard not to be happy with the win considering how great Kawhi and Aldridge looked. When those two play well at the same time, this team can go toe to toe with virtually anybody.


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Grades


Tony Parker - B

While Parker has been up and down this season his ability to penetrate and create easy looks can't be underestimated. I hate the fact that the Spurs are in the bottom two in points in the paint as well as 3 point attempts (even if they do shoot well from downtown this season) but Parker (along with Murray, Simmons and Kawhi) are one of the few players who can slash to the rim. I also feel as though Parker isn't as slow or laboring as much as he was earlier in the season. Yeah, he missed all of his shots, but he actually passed very well and set up a lot of his teammates. I'm okay with this version of Parker, the one who doesn't force jumpers and tries to hero ball it, but the one who is aware of his age and plays within the offense.



Danny Green - C+

Wonderful block on Westbrook in the first quarter but holy cow is LDN cold. I know Danny has always been streaky but the amount of wide open three's he misses is absolutely staggering. It sucks because when Danny hits at least three 3's I believe the Spurs are 323-2. I may need to double check those numbers but I'm pretty sure that's about right. He hit a pair of 3's in the second half, but he's got to nail those open shots because they often lead to a huge momentum boost for the team. I liked his defense for the most part, and he's still one of the best fast break defenders in the league. Westbrook is always a tough cover, but I was okay with how Danny did. Just need to have his shooting to show up.



Kawhi Leonard - A+

I know it's been said many times over and over, but the growth and improvement that Kawhi Leonard shows every year is nothing short of astounding. I remember the controversy on this forum when the Spurs traded Hill for the rights to Leonard but my goodness did that end up being one of the greatest draft day trades in NBA history. Every year Kawhi brings something new to the table. While he started off a little slow and probably deferred to his teammates a little too much in the first quarter he began to establish himself with some nifty hook shots and being very aggressive in getting into the teeth of the Thunder's defense. He was huge in getting the Spurs the lead back towards the end of the third with a gorgeous turnaround jumper and a 3 point play to give the Spurs a 4 point lead heading into the fourth. Speaking of the fourth, Kawhi was just unconscious out there. He was doing it all with dunks in traffic, long range three's, step backs, fade aways, you name it. It was like messing around with him in NBA 2K on a practice court. His defense was also great as he forced some turnovers and had an epic block on Grant's dunk attempt.

While the media has gotten wise to Kawhi's ascension I still think his playmaking ability isn't talked about enough. While I wouldn't call him a stellar play maker he is definitely reading the defense better than ever and has gotten really good at finding the open man at the last second when attacking the rim. You couldn't have built a better SF for San Antonio in a lab if you tried. Crazy to think how much the small forward position was a sore spot for us after Bowen retired and now we have one of the two best SF's in the entire league. :wow



LaMarcus Aldridge - A

Aldridge was an abysmal 11-34 in his last two games so he really needed to bounce back tonight. He had a slow first half with some ticky tack fouls on the defensive end but came out firing in the second half with a nice pair of jumpers, got fouled on a jumper and nailed a 3 ball to have the Spurs increase their lead and assert themselves after OKC had regained some momentum before the half. He was also immense in the fourth quarter, but this time it was on the other end of the floor. He had some fantastic blocks (3 in total) and rebounds in traffic that really helped the Spurs blow open the game in the fourth. It was also wonderful to see him get 9 free throw attempts as being a jumpshooter doesn't favor his chances of getting to line, but his aggressiveness really paid off tonight. Aldridge has been wildly inconsistent this season but when he shows up the Spurs actually begin to look like a team worthy of their record. He may not be able to shoot a great percentage every night, but when he plays hard defensively I'll take some off nights offensively if he's going to man the paint and use his size to give the Spurs a yyyuuuuugggeeee advantage.



Manu Ginobili - B+

The man, the legend, my favorite Spur of all time. He actually looked good today with a nifty up and under in the first quarter to go with an almost 4 point play (eat your heart out Jamal Crawford) as well as some great passing without forcing the issue. This was one of his best offensive showings in quite some time. When Manu is playing well in his limited time it makes the bench look that much better. He also had some nice help defense forcing some turnovers. I hope we see this version of Manu more often who can reign in the turnovers and really dictate the offense like the bench needs him to. Going to be a dark day in Spurs history when he hangs it up so enjoy him while you can.



Patty Mills - B-

His shot is still somewhat off and when it's off he doesn't bring much to the table. These are also the type of games where Patty's lack of vision in the open court becomes very apparent. I feel he tends to overdribble a lot lately (like a certain someone, but I won't go there) and his defense once again leaves a lot to be desired. However, what I did like is that Patty didn't force up stupid shots. While he only took 4 shots all game, I'm okay with that when he decides to take what the defense gives him. And once again, his three ball towards the end of the third quarter was huge in giving the Spurs some momentum after blowing the lead.



David Lee - B+

Energy Energy Energy! He has to be one of the best bang for bucks any NBA team has gotten from the offseason. Sure, his defense isn't always stellar but how can you not love a guy who hustles on every play and is still deceptively athletic for his age. He was a wrecking ball when going at the rim and I thought it was hilarious when he showed the ref blood coming out of his mouth sarcastically saying "no foul, no foul" :lol

This was a damn fine game from Lee who was a real pain in the ass for the Thunder to deal with. He's been one of the biggest surprises of the season for the Spurs. He never got deterred from going to the rim even when he got blocked (and sometimes fouled without a call) and I think putting his head down and going straight down the middle did wonders for the Spurs when the offense was cold from outside. He was like a bull in a china shop.



Dewayne Dedmon - B

It was really nice to see him in the starting lineup and he had very active hands and played solid defense for the most part. It was awesome seeing him knock away loose balls leading to baskets for the Spurs and ripping away rebounds to get the Spurs the possession back. However, he did seem to gamble a bit too much at times. For example when Westbrook was posting up Green while Dedmon was fronting Adams, only to have Dedmon inexplicably double Westbrook who dished it to a wide open Adams under the basket. But that's okay, as Dedmon looked much better defensively than he has in some time. Loved the energy Dedmon brought tonight, as he even did great when being switched onto a smaller guard on the perimeter. In the second half he did find himself in foul trouble which is something he needs to work on. However, I love what he brings to the table and I hope we get to see more of this effort moving forward as his skillset is quite an asset for the Spurs defensively. I wish there was a way Pop would be willing to start Dedmon over Pau full time but you know the soft Spaniard would throw a hissy fit.



Jonathon Simmons - B

It was good to see him back and while he clearly looked rusty out there in the first quarter I thought he looked better and better as the game went on. He had a lovely spin move going to the rim and a nice putback that didn't count, but I loved the effort. His defense wasn't bad overall, but my goodness that chase down block was like watching a live murder on television if you were a Thunder fan. He was solid in the fourth quarter along with Kawhi to help the Spurs blow the game open. His shot was somewhat off but that is to be expected considering how many games he has missed recently. Simmons really showed in the second half what the Spurs had been missing while he was injured. While he has been up and down for the season if he can string together some solid performances this Spurs team becomes that much more dangerous.



Davis Bertans - B

His shot being off is incredibly frustrating as he was wide open as hell on a lot of them, but I do love the fact that he never hesitates and keeps shooting even when he misses several in a row. On the flipside, his defense was wonderful. He had some timely blocks and hustled on the boards. I wish he had a couple more shots go in for a higher grade but it's also quite telling that he had the best +/- on the team with a +20. He is the player I always wished Matt Bonner was. I hope he continues to get more minutes as the Spurs are onto a hidden gem right now.





Pop - A-

I loved the starting 5 he put out there tonight and his substitution patterns were on point from what I can remember. His timeouts were always at the right time (not when the Spurs were on a run and killing their momentum) and I thought the team played wonderful defense overall. Maybe the recent losses were getting to Pop as well as he was pacing up and down the sidelines a lot. I think Pop has been a bit frustrating at times this season, but when he's engaged and looks like he gives a shit, this team looks so much more fired up and locked in. His rotations tonight were very fair. Although I'm baffled at the lack of Murray especially when you consider our shaky backcourt, I liked that he gave Dedmon and Bertans decent minutes (Dedmon being in foul trouble wasn't Pop's fault). He also didn't over play Parker or Patty.

A nice showing overall :tu


Dejounte Murray, Kyle Anderson, and Joel Anthony barely played so I'm not going to do a write up on them as it would be pointless.

Good grades, agree with all of them

"Where's Fatheads?" = SAGirl

Damn, that was fast. Solid set of grades, too. I wish there was something higher than A+ to give Kawhi. He was just a beast tonight. And it's a shame there's no grade for Team D, because most of the game the Spurs really played together well on that end.

If we get consistent B performances from Dedmon, Simmons, and Bertans, this is a much tougher team to beat. I expect there to be a lot more nights when Bertans his hitting 3's than missing them, though. If the rest of Bertans' game is at this level AND he nails those trips?


The Spurs held OKC to 35% from the floor. For the record - I'll trade shitty FT shooting for smothering D any day. I remember those days fondly.

thanks :tu

Really nice grades done way ahead of schedule. :toast You ought to be a journalist Amused. (Maybe you are. I have no idea what anyone really does on this site. :lol)

Parker and Mills shared about 40mins as the point. And Murray only got 1 min. So who played the other 6-7mins? And how did it go?

Love the detail and grades; you should do game grades more often:tu

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Damn, that was fast. Solid set of grades, too. I wish there was something higher than A+ to give Kawhi. He was just a beast tonight. And it's a shame there's no grade for Team D, because most of the game the Spurs really played together well on that end.

If we get consistent B performances from Dedmon, Simmons, and Bertans, this is a much tougher team to beat. I expect there to be a lot more nights when Bertans his hitting 3's than missing them, though. If the rest of Bertans' game is at this level AND he nails those trips?


The Spurs held OKC to 35% from the floor. For the record - I'll trade shitty FT shooting for smothering D any day. I remember those days fondly.

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The defense was definitely nice to see, especially against such an atheltic team. It slipped during the second and third quarters but most importantly it was there when it mattered tonight :tu

The free throw situation has been a little annoying lately, but at least they are getting a lot more attempts which is nice to see.

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Really nice grades done way ahead of schedule. :toast You ought to be a journalist Amused. (Maybe you are. I have no idea what anyone really does on this site. :lol)

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I simply write alternative facts! Thanks Bill :toast

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Love the detail and grades; you should do game grades more often:tu

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I first read that as "you should do game threads more often" :lol


Thanks for the kind words fellas

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Parker and Mills shared about 40mins as the point. And Murray only got 1 min. So who played the other 6-7mins? And how did it go?

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I believe Ginobili played some at the point tonight as well.

Good stuff, Amused. Agree with all of this. :toast

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Parker and Mills shared about 40mins as the point. And Murray only got 1 min. So who played the other 6-7mins? And how did it go?

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There's a big line up with Manu, Simmons, Leonard, Bertans, & Aldridge IIRC, and that line up is quite good defensively while using Manu & Leonard as the playmakers.

Actually agree with the Porker grade. He should be graded on his ability to contain his inner hero. His willingness to get out of the way of one of the top three players on the planet. Regardless of whether it was an order from Pop or whether he took it upon himself, the Pork got out of the way tonight. :tu

Thanks for the grades btw.

Good grades... out so quickly. :flag:

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Good grades, agree with all of them

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Ditto on this. Great write-up Amuse! :bobo

Wow thank you for best grades in a long while. Please do more.

Kawhi was amazing and damn what an awesome ball handler he is. He was on a very high playing level. Very very impressive and unstoppable/unguardable for stretches.

Great grades, thank you!

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Great grades, thank you!

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Thanks for the grades.

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Danny Green - C+

Wonderful block on Westbrook in the first quarter but holy cow is LDN cold. I know Danny has always been streaky but the amount of wide open three's he misses is absolutely staggering. It sucks because when Danny hits at least three 3's I believe the Spurs are 323-2. I may need to double check those numbers but I'm pretty sure that's about right. He hit a pair of 3's in the second half, but he's got to nail those open shots because they often lead to a huge momentum boost for the team. I liked his defense for the most part, and he's still one of the best fast break defenders in the league. Westbrook is always a tough cover, but I was okay with how Danny did. Just need to his shooting to show up.

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I apologize, but I'm contractually obligated to object here. Green shot 2/5 from. That's perfectly acceptable. It's simply not realistic to expect Green to shoot better than that. Danny held Russ to eight points and only a handful of assists (I saw three on the highlights, but those don't show every point). Throw in three blocks and two steals, and you have a hell of a defensive effort.

These expectations, man.

Grades are spot on .

Disappointed we not seeing Dejounte at all. He needs to have a regular role & mins. Not surprised Pop not playing him. He will probably wait for the playoffs & insert him as the saviour.

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Thanks for the grades.



I apologize, but I'm contractually obligated to object here. Green shot 2/5 from. That's perfectly acceptable. It's simply not realistic to expect Green to shoot better than that. Danny held Russ to eight points and only a handful of assists (I saw three on the highlights, but those don't show every point). Throw in three blocks and two steals, and you have a hell of a defensive effort.

These expectations, man.

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Fair point as the grade could be somewhat harsh but it's alarming how many wide open shots he misses as he's been slumping really badly on the offensive end for quite some time now. Yes, he hit a pair of threes late in the game to salvage his shooting percentage and his defense was really solid. But we really need him to hit his open 3's as the Spurs benefit more from him hitting those than any other player on the roster. It opens everything up for the Spurs when Danny is shooting well. Danny has been cold for so long that it is a little worrisome and some of his misses were way off but thankfully his defense makes up for it on most nights. :tu

Manu is fool's gold at this point of his career. It's not his fault, he's old. He's been an absolute game changer to this franchise but the dude is done.

But Pop is still going to play him 20-25 minutes a game in the playoffs even to the detriment of the team. There is no reason he should still be relied on this much at this point.

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Manu is fool's gold at this point of his career. It's not his fault, he's old. He's been an absolute game changer to this franchise but the dude is done.

But Pop is still going to play him 20-25 minutes a game in the playoffs even to the detriment of the team. There is no reason he should still be relied on this much at this point.

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Manu has had his share of nights where he should be benched this season no question, but last night wasn't one of them. He was great in so many different aspects that it was a joy to see. I hope he saves some of that for the playoffs.

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Fair point as the grade could be somewhat harsh but it's alarming how many wide open shots he misses as he's been slumping really badly on the offensive end for quite some time now. Yes, he hit a pair of threes late in the game to salvage his shooting percentage and his defense was really solid. But we really need him to hit his open 3's as the Spurs benefit more from him hitting those than any other player on the roster. It opens everything up for the Spurs when Danny is shooting well. Danny has been cold for so long that it is a little worrisome and some of his misses were way off but thankfully his defense makes up for it on most nights. :tu

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I think he mostly came out of his slump two games ago. He was making everything to start the Dallas game, but the first few didn't count for one reason or another. He missed a lot of the ones on record, but that's just probability. Last night was something similar.

As far as open shots go, NBA.com has both open and wide-open shots as categories. Green is shooting over 50 percent on open attempts, but he's shooting just over 35 percent on wide-open attempts. I'm not quite sure why that's the case. It's possible that wide-open attempts are at the end of the clock or when his feet aren't set or something. The open attempts are the ones you expect him to get and make within the flow of an offense. Open shots come off forced rotations, while wide open shots come off broken defense.

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Manu has had his share of nights where he should be benched this season no question, but last night wasn't one of them. He was great in so many different aspects that it was a joy to see. I hope he saves some of that for the playoffs.

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Of course, it's his one good game for every six, that's why I called it fools gold. It wont be reliable in the playoffs. I'm not saying he shouldn't play, I'm just saying the leash should be very short if he's hurting the team, but Pops track record with him says otherwise.

Danny should've got an F. He was straight trash last night.

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I think he mostly came out of his slump two games ago. He was making everything to start the Dallas game, but the first few didn't count for one reason or another. He missed a lot of the ones on record, but that's just probability. Last night was something similar.

As far as open shots go, NBA.com has both open and wide-open shots as categories. Green is shooting over 50 percent on open attempts, but he's shooting just over 35 percent on wide-open attempts. I'm not quite sure why that's the case. It's possible that wide-open attempts are at the end of the clock or when his feet aren't set or something. The open attempts are the ones you expect him to get and make within the flow of an offense. Open shots come off forced rotations, while wide open shots come off broken defense.

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We used to laugh all the time about Danny's dead-ball 3P%. He'd be 0-for-everything, but he'd have three makes that all came right after a whistle. After a while, that can't be coincidence. The same goes for his lower percentage on wide-open shots. After a while, it's not a coincidence.

I don't know that I've ever seen a basketball player in greater need of a sports psychologist. At the very least, and I said this last year, they need to leave him at home for a week with Chip, and make him shoot 3's until he's dreaming about them at night. When you're missing more wide-open shots than semi-contested shots, it's because you're thinking too much. I think every person here sees that Danny looks like a deer in the headlights when he's got one of those wide-open 3's. He used to go looking for them. This team really needs him to get that swag back.

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Of course, it's his one good game for every six, that's why I called it fools gold. It wont be reliable in the playoffs. I'm not saying he shouldn't play, I'm just saying the leash should be very short if he's hurting the team, but Pops track record with him says otherwise.

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Who is 'reliable' in the guard's rotation? Love Simms, he seems to be coming on his own, but he's far from the model of consistency. Patty can be great or really ugly. Tony I think meshes better with Pau, and he already plays quite a bit of minutes.

I agree about the leash, but 20 mins isn't even half the game. He's averaging 19-something mins this season, lowest in his career. He basically has ~15 mins to make any kind of impact. Defensively, after Green, he's our 2nd best defender at the SG/PG position, at 39 years old. FWIW, he's been benched at the end of playoff games since the Clippers series two seasons ago, so he's not untouchable either.

The reality is that this team is built in a different way. It's gong to be LMA/Kawhi taking us somewhere or nowhere. You get what you can from the rest.

Good grades, thanks Amused.

Man I wish Dedmon could control is fouling; he's not improving there.

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Who is 'reliable' in the guard's rotation? Love Simms, he seems to be coming on his own, but he's far from the model of consistency. Patty can be great or really ugly. Tony I think meshes better with Pau, and he already plays quite a bit of minutes.

I agree about the leash, but 20 mins isn't even half the game. He's averaging 19-something mins this season, lowest in his career. He basically has ~15 mins to make any kind of impact. Defensively, after Green, he's our 2nd best defender at the SG/PG position, at 39 years old. FWIW, he's been benched at the end of playoff games since the Clippers series two seasons ago, so he's not untouchable either.

The reality is that this team is built in a different way. It's gong to be LMA/Kawhi taking us somewhere or nowhere. You get what you can from the rest.

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Of course LMA/Kawhi will take us there.

But Manu is the rare breed that is either helping your team, or literally helping the other team with his turn overs and dumb fouls and constant gambles on defense like he's 25 years old. There is no middle ground. He plays the same way for good or bad. At this point it's more bad.

Sometimes reliable just means maintaining possession of the ball to get a good shot off during the playoffs.

Simmons may still turn the ball over, but he's not as reckless as Manu, plus his athleticism still allows him to make impact plays like the chase down block he had last night.

1) I thought Lee told the ref "No blood, no foul."

2) As to the missing PG minutes:
For the last four minutes of the 2nd, Simmons subbed in for Mills and covered Westbrook, while Leonard was point forward on offense.
For well less than a minute at the end of the 3rd, Green subbed in for Mills for a defensive possession and covered Westbrook.
After Murray was pulled for Dedmon (that was weird), Anderson was PG for the last minute.

Bertans with the highest plus minus despite only two points... He's becoming Bonner 2.0... (a better, faster, more athletic version)

Considering his physical abilities at this stage of his career, how could you not give David Lee an A- at least. He's such a great addition, playing whatever minutes he is given with great attitude and skills that can surprise us since he has sorta bounced around the last few years. Gotta love this guy.

Hey, looks like Pop finally found the right starters and bench rotations.

Even when Pau returns, he should start Dedmon.

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Bertans with the highest plus minus despite only two points... He's becoming Bonner 2.0... (a better, faster, more athletic version)

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:lol exactly what I was thinking

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Considering his physical abilities at this stage of his career, how could you not give David Lee an A- at least. He's such a great addition, playing whatever minutes he is given with great attitude and skills that can surprise us since he has sorta bounced around the last few years. Gotta love this guy.

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I had him at an A- originally, but his defense can be a bit spotty. I could've given him an A-, I was thrilled with him last night.

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Hey, looks like Pop finally found the right starters and bench rotations.

Even when Pau returns, he should start Dedmon.

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I would love for that to happen but Gasol was inexplicably promised a starting spot all season.

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Bertans with the highest plus minus despite only two points... He's becoming Bonner 2.0... (a better, faster, more athletic version)

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:lol Unlike Bonner (who probably was an underrated defender to an extent) you really felt Bertans defensive impact out there. Bonner's +/- was always surprising but with Bertans, despite missing a lot of shots, it really felt like the team was playing really well when he was on the floor.

I'm late to the party but great write up Amused.

The team D was really good. Even if we get a bunch of blocking fouls on Westbrook before the bonus it's good stuff. Westbrook has to know he WILL take contact with his deep set running back mentality.

KL and LMA on offense with others stepping up depending on the opponent and the night. This is our team offensively it appears. If LMA can hit the boards and get easy put backs, added bonus. Pau, Lee, Bertans, Mills, Simmons can all have their nights in various ways. Tony has got to be fast and steady. Danny has got to harass like he did last night. Dedmon could be very important against certain opponents. We definitely could have used him against OKC last year in the playoffs. Manu gives us some leverage with lineups as he can play with almost any group as an extra ball handler. But he can't be expected to score or "force create".

Thanks for the write up.

Good set of grades OP. Thanks for the write up!

For this write-up, OP has earned his rights back to open a game thread and cripple few Spurs :(

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For this write-up, OP has earned his rights back to open a game thread and cripple few Spurs :(

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As long as those players are named Tony I won't mind tbh

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For this write-up, OP has earned his rights back to open a game thread and cripple few Spurs :(

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:toast thanks but the Raptors game was my last one of the season.