Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
:lmao
03-28-2018
spurraider21
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Originally Posted by TSA
djohn again not reading past the tweet :lol
Mr. Dowd, who was hired last year to defend the president during the Mueller inquiry, took the lead in dealing directly with Mr. Flynn’s and Mr. Manafort’s lawyers, according to two people familiar with how the legal team operated.
He denied on Wednesday that he discussed pardons with lawyers for the president’s former advisers.
“There were no discussions. Period,” Mr. Dowd said. “As far as I know, no discussions.”
Contacted repeatedly over several weeks, the president’s lawyers representing him in the special counsel’s investigation maintained that they knew of no discussions of possible pardons.
“Never during the course of my representation of the president have I had any discussions of pardons of any individual involved in this inquiry,” Jay Sekulow, a lawyer for Mr. Trump, said on Wednesday.
Ty Cobb, the White House lawyer dealing with the investigation, added, “I have only been asked about pardons by the press and have routinely responded on the record that no pardons are under discussion or under consideration at the White
Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by TSA
Since you are too much of a pussy to answer my question
That's so rich
03-28-2018
Reck
Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
John Dowd singing like a bird...for free.
:lol TSA and Chrissy.
03-28-2018
boutons_deux
Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
Who Ratted Out John Dowd? I Think We Know
So who ratted out John Dowd and his offers or hints of offers of pardons to Trump’s top aides who found themselves in Robert Mueller’s crosshairs? I think we can make a pretty solid educated guess.
It seems quite likely that Manafort either discussed these offers with Gates (after all, they were originally fighting this as a team) or the offer was made to Gates as well. Perhaps, in fact quite likely, Manafort would have relayed the offer.
After all, the value of Manafort staying quiet would be heavily undercut if Gates talked. He’d need to get the offer too.
So Gates makes his deal, shares this information with Bob Mueller and then Mueller’s investigators go to Flynn to try to get confirmation. Flynn’s cooperating. So he needs to answer.
Pretty quickly Mueller et al. can confirm that these offers (hints of offers at least) weremade. The Times seems to get wind of it around the same time.
Remember that these offers would have had to have been made many months ago, before Flynn’s deal (12/1/2017) and before the charges against Manafort (10/30/2017).
I think we can be pretty confident that we know one of Mueller’s first big gets from Gates’ cooperation.
things like power plants, nuclear generators, and water facilities.
The joint report from the FBI and Department of Homeland Security claims that Russian hackers gained access to computers across the targeted industriesand collected sensitive data including passwords, logins, and information about energy generation.
While the report doesn’t specify any identifiable sabotage, the intrusion itself could set up future attacks that do more than just record
observations.
Energy Secretary Rick Perry told lawmakers at an appropriations hearing that cyberattacks are “literally happening hundreds of thousands of times a day,” and warned that
the Department of Energy needs an “office of cybersecurity and emergency response” in order to be prepared for threats like this in the future.
:lol sure, Jimmy Ricky's gonna spend money on cybersecurity :lol
a big deal:
It’s the first time the US government has publicly blamed Russia’s government for attacks on energy infrastructure.
Explicitly pinning the attack on the Kremlin means that rather than targeting the hackers as individuals,
the United States can now respond against Russia as a whole.
A business associate of Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort had a direct connection to Russian intelligence—and that includes during the 2016 campaign.
The associate, named in court documents as “Person A,” is described as a former GRU (the main military foreign-intelligence service of the Russian Federation) officer—a description that fits Kilimnik.
According to the court documents, “Person A” was in communication with Manafort and Gates during the 2016 campaign and had continued contact with Manafort’s former associates in Ukraine.
The second item revealed is no surprise:
Robert Mueller is seriously invested in the idea that lying to the special counsel’s office should generate more than a slap on the wrist.
there’s a difference between his indictment last month on charges of lying to investigators and
similar charges against Rick Gates, Michael Flynn and George Papadopoulos—
van der Zwaan is not a cooperating witness.
He’s just … indicted.
Robert Mueller's office argued that a judge shouldn't rule out jail time for Alex van der Zwaan, a lawyer who pleaded guilty to lying to prosecutors and the FBI in the Russia investigation.
Van der Zwaan’s indictment may not have come with an agreement to testify, but it did come as part of a plea deal that allowed van der Zwaan to avoid additional charges based on multiple instances of lying to investigators and withholding documents pertinent to the investigation.
"The defendant was expressly warned by the government that it is a crime to lie to the Special Counsel’s Office,
that lying could constitute a federal crime, and
that such conduct would carry with it the possibility of going to jail if he were convicted.
van der Zwaan stated that he understood.
He thereafter deliberately and repeatedly lied,"
He was warned, but he persisted … in lying to the special counsel’s office.
still a lot of people who haven’t taken their turn in Mueller’s chair, and
they should all know that not telling the truth there carries serious consequences.
Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
Van der Zwaan’s is the weirdest case of career suicide I've seen since Tillerson's "fucking moron" comment.
Rick Wilson was right: everything Trump touches dies.
03-29-2018
Chris
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03-29-2018
Pavlov
Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by Chris
Let me guess.
Routine Brady order that was given over a month ago?
03-29-2018
spurraider21
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yeah. dick morris is way behind tbh :lol
03-29-2018
RandomGuy
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Originally Posted by boutons_deux
The associate, named in court documents as “Person A,” is described as a former GRU ... was in communication with Manafort and Gates during the 2016 campaign and had continued contact with Manafort’s former associates in Ukraine.
Looks like... collusion.
03-29-2018
Spurminator
Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
Is there any doubt that Dick Morris hosts a drag queen karaoke gig on the side?
03-29-2018
RandomGuy
Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
If you're President Trump and you knew Paul Manafort was in that key Trump Tower meeting with your son and son-in-law and if that was a quid pro quo where the Russians were offering dirt on Hillary Clinton in exchange for some kind of benefits, and you're worried about that, and
you want to make sure that Manafort doesn't get into the Mueller camp—
I guess one way of doing that is to offer a pardon.
The pardon prospect, which once seemed like somewhat of an outside chance, now seems to fulfill a lot of otherwise unanswerable questions about Manafort's continued posture. https://www.dailykos.com/stories/201...tail=emaildkre
03-29-2018
Pavlov
Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
If you're President Trump and you knew Paul Manafort was in that key Trump Tower meeting with your son and son-in-law and if that was a quid pro quo where the Russians were offering dirt on Hillary Clinton in exchange for some kind of benefits, and you're worried about that, and
you want to make sure that Manafort doesn't get into the Mueller camp—
I guess one way of doing that is to offer a pardon.
The pardon prospect, which once seemed like somewhat of an outside chance, now seems to fulfill a lot of otherwise unanswerable questions about Manafort's continued posture. https://www.dailykos.com/stories/201...tail=emaildkre
That and he prefers his tea without polonium.
03-29-2018
boutons_deux
Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
Two weeks ago, Donald Trump took direct aim at Special Counsel Robert Mueller, going after his investigation by name and using the same kind of attacks previously used to weaken the positions of James Comey and Andrew McCabe.
That willingness to directly paint the special counsel’s operation as a partisan effort threw open the door for Trump’s allies to attack Mueller from every front, and
attempting to create a view of Robert Mueller as a Clinton-loving bumbler with Mafia ties, who is neither fair nor a good investigator.
Republican legislators have gone to the point of pushing for a second special counsel on several occasions—just so that Mueller might then be called as witness, providing an excuse to end his investigation.
But Trump’s fresh signal to the alt-right could be the starting gun for an all-out push to rewrite the history of Robert Mueller.
The timing of multiple attacks on Mueller over multiple issues looks to many like more than a coincidence.
“It looks like the beginnings of a campaign,”
“It looks like they are trying to seed the ground.
Ultimately, if the president determines he wants to fire Mueller,
he’s going to want to make sure there’s ample public record that he can fall back on.”
The point is to turn Mueller into yet another in the line of Obama, Clinton, Yates, Comey and McCabe—f
igures that the right has turned into not just enemies,
So Trash's supporters are lying about Mueller as "deep state" so when Trash fires Mueller, his supporters can say the firing is fully justified by our lies and slander against Mueller.
"ample public record" :lol
03-29-2018
boutons_deux
Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
The message he sent to to conservative and Republican donors seems to basically be,
"I covered for Trump. Pay me."
Looking for contributions for his reelection campaign, Nunes claimed that he had gone through "a year of diverted resources and slanderous attacks from the far left over alleged ties between the Trump campaign and Russian hackers."
(Actually, there have been no serious allegations that the Trump campaign was in bed with the Russian "hackers" who targeted Democrats,
but there has been evidence that Trump campaign advisers were in contact with Russians while Moscow was waging its cyberattacks and information warfare against the 2016 election to benefit Donald Trump.)
Having shuttered the Russia investigation,
Nunes bashes "liberals" for attempting "to keep their conspiracy alive" and
refusing to let "the intelligence community move on."
Nunes writes "we've reached a conclusion about collusion: there was none." That is because, as Mark Sumner explains, they weren't actually looking for it.
that's just what Republican expected, as Nunes very well knows. They're getting what they paid for, he's reminding them, as he demands the next installment.
So why doesn't Trash and his mafiya prove there was no collusion, rather than stone-walling and obstructing and lying?
03-29-2018
TSA
Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by RandomGuy
Looks like... collusion.
Looks like...you don't know what the fuck you are talking about. van der Zwaan said Person A was discussing with Manafort/Gates possible criminal charges they may face in Ukraine for their work on the Tomyshenko report from 2012.
