Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions

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where's the requirement that any mention of emails be made? Mueller runs a type ship, no leaking "mentions"

"unprecedented" :lol yep, Trash and his mafiya's numerous and long-time communications, meetings with Russian mafiya is unprecedented

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Oh, the Russians had good and helpful information on Clinton that the Trump campaign could use to lose the election.

:lol today's conspiracy.

You really miss Vachel/Rex telling you what to say.

Trump accuses Mueller of ruining 'young and beautiful' lives of his campaign staffers

Donald J. Trump

✔@realDonaldTrump

Who’s going to give back the young and beautiful lives (and others) that have been devastated and destroyed by the phony Russia Collusion Witch Hunt?

They journeyed down to Washington, D.C., with stars in their eyes and wanting to help our nation...

They went back home in tatters!

7:41 AM - May 27, 2018


Yes, Donald Trump is waxing lyrical over

starry-eyed youths like

69-year-old Paul Manafort,

51-year-old waif Michael Cohen,

little Michael Flynn, and

toddler Rick Gates

who have had their poor naive eyes moistened by the realization that not everyone gets to the promised autocracy-land.

Or at least, not without a pardon.

little 65-year-old Roger Stone.

After all, it’s not as if

Manafort and Stone worked for years to create a business referred to as The Torturer’s Lobby

for its habit of working with the world’s worst dictators. Except that they did exactly that.

Donald Trump bemoaning the “young and beautiful lives” of his band of aging, treason-happy thugs, is

another reason why English doesn’t have the words to adequately describe the depths of Trump’s loathsomeness.

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"I understand that it has been HHS's long-standing interpretation of the law that

ORR is not legally responsible for children after they are released from ORR care,"

[Steven Wagner, a top official with the Department of Health and Human Services] said.

Meanwhile, Trump’s team is denying that it has any legal responsibility for 40,000 children it ripped away from parents, sent to concentration camps, or simply lost.

By “released” Wagner means “lost.”

Even Boko Haram only kidnapped 276 children.

Trump has them beat by an order of magnitude.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/201...tail=emaildkre

Manafort loses again, but the big news is why he lost.

Someone else besides Manafort and Gates could be in the barrel over their shenanigans.

he's been taking a lot of L's in DC... still no ruling from judge ellis in virginia

Trump seems to definitely be had on obstruction. Nearly a closed case on that from what's public.

Mueller is holding the last nail for that coffin.

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Manafort loses again, but the big news is why he lost.

Someone else besides Manafort and Gates could be in the barrel over their shenanigans.

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The nyt story

Sessions is a key witness now?



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Sessions is a key witness now?



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Do you think Sessions would lie or go to jail for Trump?

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Do you think Sessions would lie or go to jail for Trump?

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On behalf of all the DoJ salami, Rosenstein is letting Trash slice Rosenstein's salami into the salalmi/dicklessness

President Trump Is Taking Control of the Mueller Probe in Slices

Hungarian communist leader Mátyás Rákosi invented the phrase “salami tactics” to describe how his party established a dictatorship. The phrase has come to describe a way of

taking power in increments,

by forcing your opponent to repeatedly choose between either giving up a small concession – a slice of the salami –

or staging a total confrontation.

To the extent President Trump has a conscious strategy against the Russia investigation, this is it.

If Trump had baldly demanded a year ago that he be handed full control over the prosecutorial powers of the Justice Department, many of his coalition partners (Republicans in Congress) would have revolted. Instead he has encroached step by step upon the Department’s independence.

At each step, his opponents have had to choose between giving him one more slice of salami and staging an irrevocable breach.

The salami is getting shorter, and Trump’s final demands are drawing closer.

Trump fired James Comey in May 2017. Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein could have resigned rather than put his name on a transparently disingenuous letter justifying Comey’s firing.

Rosenstein’s willingness to write a letter supporting the firing was the first slice of salami.

Many more have followed.

Rosenstein has shared documents used in the Mueller probe with Congress,

given Congress access to Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act applications.

rules also prevent the Department from communicating directly with the president about an active investigation, but after Trump viewed this distancing as an “affront,” Rosenstein is now giving up on this rule, too.

At some point, however, he will have surrendered so much control that there will be nothing left to fight for.

Trump’s disguised ends are growing increasingly naked.

Rather than denying that Trump’s campaign colluded with Russia, he is portraying collusion as some murky and undefinable act.

So now Giuliani is simultaneously all but conceding that members of the Trump campaign colluded with Russia,

and calling the entire investigation illegitimate.

Congressional Republicans are determined to seize control of the Mueller investigation before voters have a chance to strip them of the majority that gives them the power to do it.

“the pressure to use these tools to get disclosure is growing, as congressional Republicans worry about losing their oversight authority in the midterms, and suspect the Justice Department is stringing them along for that very reason.”

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/05/trump-is-taking-control-of-the-mueller-probe-in-slices.html

Does Rosenstein have a long enough "salami" to have any salami left by mid-terms?

lol Chris

Bob Mueller’s White Hot Summer

Mueller will not indict the president, but will issue a comprehensive and detailed report.

None of us outside the famously tight-lipped Special Counsel’s Office can know what Mueller will conclude.

Will it rival Watergate? Not yet clear.

But we do know that the modern standard for impeachment was set in 1998, when independent counsel Kenneth Starr and a Republican House concluded that

one instance of lying under oath about a sexual indiscretion was enough.

Starr even concluded that he had the authority to indict President Clinton on those grounds, though he did not do so.

If that is the standard, Mueller’s findings involving President Trump will easily clear that very low bar.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...gEmail__053018

lol Chris and TSA bodyslammed through a burning table

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and that will be the end of it, more or less.

impeachment is the remedy for guys like DJT. hard to imagine a US Senate supermajority convicting, supposing it even gets that far.

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and that will be the end of it, more or less.

impeachment is the remedy for guys like DJT. hard to imagine a US Senate supermajority convicting, supposing it even gets that far.

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Yeah. Mueller runs a tight ship and is impossible to say he won't indict him. Or already indicted in multiple jurisdictions :)

very true. no one can predict what Mueller will do.

my guess would be a booming punt to the US Congress. it would be odd for Mueller to break precedent.

it would be politically inflammatory as well. much as one might wish it for a politician as obviously crooked as DJT, there are good reasons not to indict high officers of government. using criminal law as a club to beat the opposition and overturn election results takes us in the direction of countries like Brazil, Russia and Turkey.

if we go down that road, not only will recrimination be endless, both sides will have a powerful motive to overstay their electoral mandate. using the law to criminalize the opposition practically ensures that one party or the other will break the republic -- the stakes of losing elections will be too high.

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and that will be the end of it, more or less.

impeachment is the remedy for guys like DJT. hard to imagine a US Senate supermajority convicting, supposing it even gets that far.

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Unlike Ken Starr's order where he was supposed to publish everything on Clinton, Mueller is forbidden to do so, can only give to Congress, not the public, as the article says

it would be very surprising if the report didn't leak

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:lol they didn't even get the documents they requested you dipshit

The Steele dossier theory fell apart, now the Mifsud/Papadapolous/Downer theory is falling apart....what will their next theory be?

The Maltese Phantom of Russiagate

In the shifting narratives of the Trump-Russia probe, a Maltese academic named Joseph Mifsud has remained a linchpin regarding claims of collusion. He is the professor who allegedly told Trump campaign adviser George Papadopoulos that the Russians had emails related to the Clinton campaign. The FBI says it opened its investigation in late July 2016 after Papadopoulos relayed that information to Australian diplomat Alexander Downer, and the Australians tipped off U.S. authorities.

While some news accounts describe Mifsud as an accomplice to Russian clandestine operations or a “cut-out” (intermediary), others contend he is a full-fledged Russian spy.

In an official report, Democrats on the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence asserted that “in their approach to Papadopoulos, the Russians used common tradecraft and employed a cut-out,” a “Kremlin-linked…Maltese professor named Joseph Mifsud.”

No one in the American intelligence community has publicly challenged this description.

But there is one major problem with this story: No evidence has been presented to support the claim. Although Mifsud has traveled many times to Russia and has contacts with Russian academics, his closest public ties are to Western governments, politicians, and institutions, including the CIA, FBI and British intelligence services. One of Mifsud’s jobs has been to train diplomats, police officers, and intelligence officers at schools in London and Rome, where he lived and worked over the last dozen years.

The house-of-mirrors nature of the claim that Mifsud is a spy is reflected in the guilty plea Papadopoulos signed on Oct. 5, 2017 for making several material false statements to the FBI. It reads, in part: “Defendant PAPADOPOULOS further told the investigating agents that the professor was ‘a nothing’ and ‘just a guy talk[ing] up connections or something.’ In truth and in fact, however, defendant PAPADOPOULOS understood that the professor had substantial connections to Russian government officials (and had met with some of those officials in Moscow immediately prior to telling defendant PAPADOPOULOS about the ‘thousands of emails’) and, over a period of months, defendant PAPADOPOULOS repeatedly sought to use the professor's Russian connections in an effort to arrange a meeting between the Campaign and Russian government officials.”

If Mifsud truly is a Russian agent – which is key to the collusion narrative – he could prove to be one of the most promiscuous spies in modern history. Western intelligence agencies and European politicians would have to spend the next few decades repairing the damage he did to global security by infiltrating key institutions and personnel. As of yet, however, there is no indication that any intelligence service has begun the embarrassing, but highly important, assessment of how it was penetrated and how it can re-fortify the vulnerabilities that Mifsud may have exposed. There has been no public effort to arrest him.

While most media accounts have simply repeated official claims that Mifsud is a sketchy character whose visits to Russia and academic contacts suggest he is working for Russian intelligence, a look at the available evidence challenges that narrative. It also raises the possibility that Mifsud, whose circles are tied to the Clintons, may, like another professor recently in the news, Stefan Halper, have actually been working for Western intelligence agencies.
Disappearance

Painting a full picture of Mifsud is difficult because after the 58-year-old professor was first identified by name in a Washington Post article in the weeks following Papadopoulos’ confession, he gave a few interviews to the international press, and then disappeared.

Rumors circulated in the press that the Kremlin-linked professor may have been recalled to Russia or was liquidated.

A new book by former colleagues of Mifsud’s – Stephan Roh, a 50-year-old Swiss-German lawyer, and Thierry Pastor, a 35-year-old French political analyst – reports that he is alive and well. Their account includes a recent interview with him.

Their self-published book, “The Faking of Russia-gate: The Papadopoulos Case, an Investigative Analysis,” includes a recent interview with Mifsud in which he denies saying anything about Clinton emails to Papadopoulos. Mifsud, they write, stated “vehemently that he never told anything like this to George Papadopoulos.” Mifsud asked rhetorically: “From where should I have this [information]?”

Mifsud’s account seems to be supported by Alexander Downer, the Australian diplomat who alerted authorities about Papadopoulos. As reported in the Daily Caller, Downer said Papadopoulos never mentioned emails; he spoke, instead, about the Russians possessing material that could be damaging to Clinton. This new detail raises the possibility that Mifsud, Papadopoulos’ alleged source for the information, never said anything about Clinton-related emails either.

In interviews with RealClearInvestigations, Roh and Pastor said Mifsud is anything but a Russian spy. Rather, he is more likely a Western intelligence asset.

According to the two authors, it was a former Italian intelligence official, Vincenzo Scotti, a colleague of Mifsud’s and onetime interior minister, who told the professor to go into hiding. “I don’t know who was hiding him,” said Roh, “but I’m sure it was organized by someone. And I am sure it will be difficult to get to the bottom of it.”

Roh said Mifsud was afraid when he first went into hiding. “He had been moved to a place far away in Italy. In November and December, it broke him down. He was under so much pressure and cut off from the world. He had no internet or access to communications.”

Pastor and Roh, who hired Mifsud as a business development consultant in 2015, write that far from being a Russian spy, Mifsud “had only one master: the Western Political, Diplomatic and Intelligence World, his only home, of which he is still deeply dependent.”

There is plenty of open source material that supports their thesis.

https://www.realclearinvestigations....iagate_.html14