Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions

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This is pretty sad for even you djohn. Has it really come to this?

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Every other post from you here is a Hillary distraction attempt.

lol Chris

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Originally Posted by TSA

You’re a dipshit who can’t even get the story of your own thread correct.

“The Crown prosecutor of Russia met with his father Aras this morning and in their meeting offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father.”

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Oh, it's just a secret meeting with Russian government lawyers -- that couldn't possibly have anything to do with their intelligence services.

Adoptions!

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FLASHBACK:

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And he kept his word on that.

:lol 3 million illegal votes

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Originally Posted by Pavlov

Oh, it's just a secret meeting with Russian government lawyers -- that couldn't possibly have anything to do with their intelligence services.

Adoptions!

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That fool really thought his post would help his point.

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Originally Posted by djohn2oo8

That fool really thought his post would help his point.

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It completely destroyed your claim of JR going to a meeting with Russian intelligence to acquire stolen information.

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Originally Posted by TSA

It completely destroyed your claim of JR going to a meeting with Russian intelligence to acquire stolen information.

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It is illegal to solicit anything of value from a foreign government with the purpose of influencing an election. And yes the information was stolen

More clear terms. The meeting was illegal.

I haven't checked the Daily Posobiec but it sounds like "Junior didn't know the info was stolen" is where we've moved the goalposts now.

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It is illegal to solicit anything of value from a foreign government with the purpose of influencing an election. And yes the information was stolen

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“It is illegal for a campaign to accept help from a foreign individual or government.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/05/u...donald-jr.html

If you want to claim the meeting was illegal you must also claim hiring Christopher Steele was illegal.

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I haven't checked the Daily Posobiec but it sounds like "Junior didn't know the info was stolen" is where we've moved the goalposts now.

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:lol what info?

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“It is illegal for a campaign to accept help from a foreign individual or government.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/05/u...donald-jr.html

If you want to claim the meeting was illegal you must also claim hiring Christopher Steele was illegal.

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Steele *ding*

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Originally Posted by djohn2oo8

It is illegal to solicit anything of value from a foreign government with the purpose of influencing an election. And yes the information was stolen

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lol Christopher Steele

lol Glenn Simpson

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Originally Posted by TSA

“It is illegal for a campaign to accept help from a foreign individual or government.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/05/u...donald-jr.html

If you want to claim the meeting was illegal you must also claim hiring Christopher Steele was illegal.

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Steele was not working for their govt. Ding. He was retired. Got this boy dazed and confused.

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Steele was not working for their govt. Ding.

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Jesus, you're dumb as a rock. :lol

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Originally Posted by Chris

Jesus, you're dumb as a rock. :lol

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Steele worked with the FBI as a source. Sorry nothing illegal.

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Steele was not working for their govt. Ding. He was retired. Got this boy dazed and confused.

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This quote is from the article you posted.

“It is illegal for a campaign to accept help from a foreign individual or government”

Is Christopher Steele a foreign individual?

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Originally Posted by TSA

This quote is from the article you posted.

“It is illegal for a campaign to accept help from a foreign individual or government”

Is Christopher Steele a foreign individual?

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Into the weeds we go!

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Originally Posted by Pavlov

Into the weeds we go!

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Is Christopher Steele a foreign individual?

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Is Christopher Steele a foreign individual?

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Yes. As he was a subcontractor of a PR company a law firm in the hire of the Clinton campaign, I'm not sure that counts as the kind of contribution you want it to be.

I'm open to seeing the laws regarding such an arrangement.

Do you have them handy?

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Yes. As he was a subcontractor of a PR company a law firm in the hire of the Clinton campaign, I'm not sure that counts as the kind of contribution you want it to be.

I'm open to seeing the laws regarding such an arrangement.

Do you have them handy?

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No.

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No.

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Then trying to declare the two situations as completely equal is silly.

Wtf?

I thought little Trump claimed the meeting was about adoption restrictions of Russian children?
So it was not... when will these people stop lying?

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Originally Posted by TSA

This quote is from the article you posted.

“It is illegal for a campaign to accept help from a foreign individual or government”

Is Christopher Steele a foreign individual?

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5. So is there any real difference in what the two campaigns did?


Yes, experts say there are significant legal differences.

"One side is a private investigator under contract and the other involves alleged collaboration with a hostile government seeking to meddle in the U.S. election," said Andrew Wright, an associate professor at Savannah Law School in Georgia and former staff director of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee.

The Trump campaign's actions could put it at odds with federal election law, Wright said.

"Campaign finance laws prohibit soliciting or receiving a 'thing of value' from a foreign entity because that would constitute an illegal campaign contribution," he said. "Information could amount to an illegal in-kind contribution from a foreign government. Russia repeatedly dangled information in order to get its hooks into the Trump campaign."

In contrast, Wright said, "Fusion GPS was paid for opposition research services at arms-length. As such, it was not a campaign contribution but rather contracted services."

The fact that Steele ended up talking to a couple of Russian sources to compile his dossier doesn't change that, experts said.

Charles Tiefer, a professor at the University of Baltimore School of Law and the special deputy chief counsel for the House Iran-Contra Committee's investigation of the Reagan administration, said the actions by the two campaigns "could not be more different."

"Steele was British, but there is no reason to believe Britain ... was meddling in the election," Tiefer said. "In contrast, the Russian effort to interfere in the U.S. election connected in a number of ways with (Russian President Vladimir) Putin and his network. The Russian effort was very active on many election fronts, such as hacking, publicizing hacked materials, placing ads in social media with undisclosed identities, and seeking to work directly with the Trump campaign