Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions

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Originally Posted by Pavlov

Of course this thread happened.

Flynn is still cooperating.

lol TSA projecting hard -- conveniently forgot all his previous theories that went to shit.

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Here’s a prediction. When the Trump/Russia narrative is fully exposed for the farce it was you’ll be so embarrassed you pushed it that you’ll quit the Pavlov account and switch to another alt.

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Originally Posted by spurraider21

Flynn plead guilty to a felony

:lol muh judge sullivan
:lol muh exculpatory evidence
:lol muh plea withdrawal

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:lol muh Logan act

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Originally Posted by TSA

Here’s a prediction. When the Trump/Russia narrative is fully exposed for the farce it was you’ll be so embarrassed you pushed it that you’ll quit the Pavlov account and switch to another alt.

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:lol I've said all along when the Russia investigation is over I'm going back to my original account, dumbass.

You've already claimed amnesia for all your failures. How is that any better, TSA?

Explain.

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Originally Posted by TSA

:lol muh Logan act

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he plead guilty to a felony

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Originally Posted by TSA

:lol muh Russia crew coping mechanisms

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You know it's really bad for you when you have to dig deep and use derp's and fabb's shitty comebacks.

:cry coping mechanism
:cry mah crew

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Originally Posted by TSA

coming from someone who’s pushed the muh Russia for two years :lol

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How have I pushed "muh Russia," Pizzaboy?

He’s barely recognizable. Boy turned into Spurtacular

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Originally Posted by Spurminator

How have I pushed "muh Russia," Pizzaboy?

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:lol please

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Originally Posted by TSA

:lol please

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That's a dodge. But I don't expect you to answer.

I keep up with my theories, when I care enough to have them. I don't follow the fringe conspiracy wind wherever it blows like you do.

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Originally Posted by Spurminator

That's a dodge. But I don't expect you to answer.

I keep up with my theories, when I care enough to have them. I don't follow the fringe conspiracy wind wherever it blows like you do.

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Oh you were actually being serious? Lol

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/sea...earchid=148740

double

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Originally Posted by TSA

Oh you were actually being serious? Lol

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/sea...earchid=148740

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https://i.imgur.com/KcBiEhG.png?1

Is this supposed to help?

Maybe just link a specific post.

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Originally Posted by TSA

Oh you were actually being serious? Lol

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/sea...earchid=148740

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Yeah, that doesn't work.

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Originally Posted by Chris

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Lol "breaking"

Poor Chris

In a 20-month search for evidence of collusion between Donald Trump's campaign and Russia, none that is compelling has emerged.

Former FBI director James Comey told Congress he found none. The U.S. intelligence community has given a similar assessment, though it did prove convincingly that Moscow meddled in the 2016 election through cyber warfare. And, so far, special counsel Robert Mueller has not offered any collusion evidence, though his work continues.

But, for the first time, I can say there is evidence of collusion between Russians and Americans - specifically, the sort that is at the heart of counterintelligence work.

Before we review that evidence, let's define collusion. The Collins Dictionary says its original British meaning was "secret or illegal cooperation, especially between countries or organizations." Using that definition, collusion can be secret but good, if the outcome is well intended. Or, it can be bad, if it is meant to defraud, deceive or create illegality.

Now for the evidence, as presented to me by several sources, American and foreign:

In September 2015, senior Department of Justice (DOJ) official Bruce Ohr and some FBI agents met in New York with Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska, to seek the Russian billionaire's help on organized crime investigations. The meeting was facilitated - though not attended - by British intelligence operative Christopher Steele.

In 2012, Steele's private firm, Orbis Business Intelligence, was hired as a subcontractor by a law firm working for Deripaska, who then headed Russia's largest aluminum company. Steele's firm was asked to do research to help the law firm defend a lawsuit filed against Deripaska by a business rival.

By 2015, Steele's work had left him friendly with one of Deripaska's lawyers, according to my sources. And when Ohr, then the associate deputy attorney general and a longtime acquaintance of Steele, sought help getting to meet Deripaska, Steele obliged.

Deripaska, who frequently has appeared alongside Russian President Vladimir Putin at high-profile meetings, never really dealt with Steele but he followed his lawyer's recommendations and met with Ohr, my sources say.

By that time, Deripaska already had proven himself helpful to the FBI. As I've written previously, based on numerous U.S. sources, he cooperated with the bureau from 2009 to 2011 and spent more than $25 million of his own money on an FBI-supervised operation to try to rescue retired FBI agent Robert Levinson, who was captured in Iran while working as a CIA contractor.

U.S. officials and Levinson's family told me that Deripaska's efforts came close to securing Levinson's freedom before the State Department scuttled a deal. The former agent never has been heard from again.

The 2015 meeting between Ohr, the FBI and Deripaska is captured cryptically in some of Ohr's handwritten notes, recently turned over to Congress.

People familiar with the meeting said U.S. officials posed some investigative theories about suspected Russian organized crime and cyber espionage activity, theories that Deripaska indicated he did not believe were accurate.

The sources stressed that the 2015 meeting had nothing to do with any allegation about Russian meddling in the upcoming 2016 election but, rather, was an "outreach" about other types of suspected activity overseas that concerned U.S. officials.

A year later, Deripaska would get another visit from his FBI friends in New York. But this time the questions were about possible collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia. Specifically, the agents told Deripaska they believed Trump's former campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, was secretly coordinating the election with Moscow.

Steele had planted that theory with the FBI. By that time the former MI-6 agent was working for the American opposition research firm Fusion GPS, which had been hired by Hillary Clinton's campaign and the Democratic National Committee (DNC) to find Russian dirt on Trump. Steele's theories, of course, are contained in the so-called Steele dossier provided to the FBI.

Ohr had his own connection to Fusion, which was paying his wife, Nellie, to work on the anti-Trump research project, according to congressional testimony.

Deripaska once had a business relationship with Manafort but it ended in lawsuits. Despite that acrimony, Deripaska told the agents in that September 2016 meeting that he believed the theory of Manafort was colluding with Russia to help Trump win the election was preposterous.

Deripaska - like the many foreign business figures to whom U.S. intelligence has turned for help over the decades - is not without controversy or need. The U.S. State Department tried to keep him from getting a U.S. visa between 2006 and 2009 because they believed he had unspecified connections to criminal elements in Russia as he consolidated power in the aluminum industry. Deripaska has denied those allegations and claims FBI agents told him in 2009 that the State Department file blocking his entry to the country was merely a pretext.

Whatever the case, it is irrefutable that after he began helping the FBI, Deripaska regained entry to the United States. And he visited numerous times between 2009 and 2017, visa entry records show.

We now know that, on multiple occasions during those visits, the DOJ and FBI secretly collaborated with Deripaska in the hope of getting help, first regarding Levinson, then on Ohr's matters, and finally on the Manafort case. U.S. officials told me they assumed Deripaska let Putin's team know he was helping the U.S. government, and that his motive for helping was to keep visiting America.

Today, Deripaska is banned anew from the United States, one of several Russians sanctioned in April by the Trump administration as a way to punish Putin for 2016 election meddling. But he wants to be clear about a few things, according to a statement provided by his team. First, he did collude with Americans in the form of voluntarily assisting and meeting with the FBI, the DOJ and people such as Ohr between 2009 and 2016.

He also wants Americans to know he did not cooperate or assist with Steele's dossier, and he tried to dispel the FBI notion that Russia and the Trump campaign colluded during the 2016 election.

"The latest reckless media chatter proposes that I had some unspecified involvement in the so-called dossier. Like most of the absurd fantasies and smears that ricochet across the internet, it is utterly false. I had absolutely nothing to do with this project, and I never had any knowledge of it until it was reported in the media and I certainly wasn't involved in any activity related to it," Deripaska said in a statement provided to me by his team.

Americans can form their own conclusions about the veracity of those claims. But they now have a pretty convincing case of collusion between U.S. officials and Russians, one that isn't necessarily all that harmful to the American interest.

And the tale of Ohr, Steele, Deripaska, the FBI and the DOJ is a cogent reminder that people looking for black-and-white answers on Russia are more likely to find lots of gray - the favorite color of the murky counterintelligence world.

Pathetic this is the hill these two choose do die on

"Robert Mueller has not offered any collusion evidence, :lol

though his work continues." :lol no shit

Trash got off by paying $25M for Trash University fraud, false advertising crime.

Mueller, NY state are going to call his bluff, and he's got shitty cards.

I think the best out for USA now is for Trash to fall over dead from heart attack or totally incapacitated by massive stroke. That his only chance of shutting Mueller down. Trash's cult wouldn't, but probably would, blame Mueller.

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Originally Posted by djohn2oo8

Pathetic this is the hill these two choose do die on

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What hill would that be djohn?

Ohr shit

Two shitty Russian bots. Maybe less than that because bots can at least generate a theory

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Originally Posted by djohn2oo8

Pathetic this is the hill these two choose do die on

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What hill would that be djohn?