Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by Spurminator
You say this like it's something to be proud of. All it means is you have no conviction and you're content to push out whatever bullshit the liars you idolize tell you to push out, without caring if they're true or not.
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Originally Posted by TSA
coming from someone who’s pushed the muh Russia for two years :lol
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Originally Posted by Spurminator
How have I pushed "muh Russia," Pizzaboy?
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Originally Posted by TSA
:lol please
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Originally Posted by Spurminator
That's a dodge. But I don't expect you to answer.
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Originally Posted by Spurminator
I keep up with my theories, when I care enough to have them. I don't follow the fringe conspiracy wind wherever it blows like you do.
Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by TSA
I didn’t bring up Clinton and China but I’m more than happy to stop if you’d like to get back to discussing Trump/Russian collusion. Do you want to discuss Trump/Russian collusion or do you want to whatabout your way into the weeds?
:lmao You're the one who has whataboutted this thread for over a year and you're doing it now.
08-29-2018
TSA
Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by Pavlov
:lmao You're the one who has whataboutted this thread for over a year and you're doing it now.
Do you want to discuss Trump/Russian collusion or do you want to whatabout your way into the weeds?
08-29-2018
Pavlov
Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by TSA
Do you want to discuss Trump/Russian collusion or do you want to whatabout your way into the weeds?
I'm down with discussing Trump/Russia. What do you want to discuss about it, TSA?
08-29-2018
RandomGuy
Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by TSA
Do you want to discuss Trump/Russian collusion or do you want to whatabout your way into the weeds?
You mean like that time senior campaign officials met with Russians to get dirt on their opponent?
or the secret meetings that they all keep lying about for some reason?
That collusion?
08-29-2018
djohn2oo8
Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by RandomGuy
You mean like that time senior campaign officials met with Russians to get dirt on their opponent?
or the secret meetings that they all keep lying about for some reason?
That collusion?
he don’t wanna talk about it. He will pivot to Steele
08-29-2018
TSA
Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by RandomGuy
You mean like that time senior campaign officials met with Russians to get dirt on their opponent?
or the secret meetings that they all keep lying about for some reason?
That collusion?
You really want to talk about the meeting that Clinton funded Fusion GPS set up?
08-29-2018
TSA
Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by Pavlov
I'm down with discussing Trump/Russia. What do you want to discuss about it, TSA?
Why did the muh Russia crew suddenly stop discussing muh Russia?
08-29-2018
TSA
Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by djohn2oo8
he don’t wanna talk about it. He will pivot to Steele
:lol Steele bad now
08-29-2018
Pavlov
Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by TSA
Why did the muh Russia crew suddenly stop discussing muh Russia?
Because the Manafort and Cohen cases have been dominating the news cycles and you've gone off on your Ohr and China distractions.
08-29-2018
DarrinS
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You didn’t need to get five words into the latest calls for Donald Trump’s impeachment to discover it’s over the same objectionable qualities that we’ve heard about for three years. Michael Cohen’s payments to Stephanie Clifford and Karen McDougal are a pretext.
At least it isn’t Russia. This turning of the page is sad for Craig Unger, author of a just-released book about Mr. Trump’s business history, full of sentences like “we do not know exactly when the KGB first opened a file on Donald Trump.” Or how about his description of Oleg Kalugin, the 83-year-old ex-KGB agent living in the U.S. who knows nothing about Mr. Trump, as “a master of the tradecraft that was used to ensnare Trump.”
Such sentences are exercises in the fallacy of begging the question—presuming the truth of an unsubstantiated claim. Unfortunately for Mr. Unger, Mr. Trump’s enemies are throwing aside their Russia crutches. Mr. Trump’s longtime CFO, Allen Weisselberg, has received immunity from a federal prosecutor in New York. No, this does not mean every Trump tax return, loan application, conservation easement or cash transfer now will be scrutinized. But it could. And smart Democrats have known all along that Mr. Trump’s businesses are his real vulnerability.
The sad face that Mr. Trump made on election night after winning, it’s easy to believe, was born of a realization. Nobody has an incentive to invest unreasonable sums of time and money to create legal jeopardy for a loser. A president is different. And Mr. Trump is a fat target. Bill Clinton involved himself in one real-estate deal in his life. Imagine a Whitewater a week for 40 years.
To this columnist, it was inevitable that Mr. Trump’s past would come into collision with our vast regulatory state, which can find something on anybody if it looks hard enough, even somebody more scrupulously honest than Mr. Trump.
Harvard law professor and Bloomberg contributor Noah Feldman positively chortles that the Cohen plea now invites the U.S. attorney in Manhattan to seek more crimes and eventually to “indict the Trump Organization itself and seize assets derived from criminal activity.”
I wonder how this might play in the possibly more nuanced mind of Manafort juror Paula Duncan, who was capable of both appreciating that Paul Manafort was guilty and realizing that the government prosecuted him only because of his connection to President Trump.
Donald Trump, by a Manhattan mile, was better known than any presidential candidate in history—his personal life, his business life, his tics, his mannerisms. A bit dull are those pundits who have spent the past three years flogging and reflogging his demerits as if they discovered them. To anybody with historical imagination, the telling fact was that the American people elected him anyway. They put him in office with a clear democratic will to see how this unusual experiment runs.
While it would be problematic to assume voters gave Mr. Trump a pass for prior crimes, it’s equally problematic to launch a hunt for crimes that didn’t seem worthwhile to the myrmidons of the state before he was elected president.
It also behooves us to take a fresh look at how different Mr. Trump really is—or perhaps better said, in what way he is different and what way he is not. Friday’s headline in the Washington Post, “Trump undermining legal system, critics fear,” has that born-yesterday quality to anybody who’s been paying attention the past few decades. Half of America surely will recall hearing an FBI chief say that Hillary Clinton violated the law in relation to her official duties and it wasn’t worth prosecuting.
The risk of going down this road, thankfully, will be limited as long as Republicans remain a sizeable power in the Senate. A vote to convict after impeachment would be unlikely unless GOP voters themselves decide Mr. Trump has betrayed their cause.
What we’re also going to learn is that even if the federal government is paralyzed for the next two years, even if our politics is more deeply embittered, Mr. Trump can flourish in such an environment.
In the meantime, goodbye to Russia. You served your purpose. Vladimir Putin’s effect on the 2016 election, we can now admit, was trivial—his real influence has come almost entirely through the willingness of U.S. combatants to exploit Russia in pursuit of their own power ambitions and vendettas.
Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by TSA on 04-20-2017
Everything is panning out as expected, not a single charge, indictment, or arrest. Even Flynn isn't in major trouble. :lol
Whoopsies.
08-29-2018
djohn2oo8
Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by RandomGuy
Whoopsies.
:lmao
08-29-2018
RandomGuy
Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by TSA
:lmao Mike Flynn still a free man with no indictment
:lmao
08-29-2018
Reck
Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by RandomGuy
:lmao
TSA In 2018: I was a younger man then.
08-29-2018
Spurs Homer
Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
Will there be new indictments right before or after this Labor Day weekend?
From Mueller? SD NY? (60 days before/after an election)
I think Mueller will defer to the SD NY (a little bit longer) just to keep Trump unsure of who to go after next - while the midterms change the political landscape. The statute of limitations are also a factor and Mueller probably sees that the GOP will not impeach - so why hurry the major crimes/indictments - since the statutes take effect once an indictment is rendered. IIRC - Felonies are 6 years in New York state.
Trump may or may not be impeached but will certainly be prosecuted after 2020 when he is out of office.
08-29-2018
RandomGuy
Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by TSA
Zero evidence has come out against Trump, with Hillary we've been provided with hundreds of instances of the law being broken.
I would call someone who pleads guilty in federal court that he committed a felony with Trump to be "evidence".
08-29-2018
RandomGuy
Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by TSA
you don't drop pizzagate
pizzagate drops you
:rollin
08-29-2018
RandomGuy
Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by TSA
djohn2oo8 add another Dem to the no Trump/Russian collusion list
ah... the simpler times of "no collusion" how far those goal posts get moved...
08-29-2018
djohn2oo8
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