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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Trill Clinton
Of course :lol When in doubt, just start screeching ":cry but Obama did it too!" or ":cry but Hillary did it too!"
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by
TSA
Just in the last week
WaPo printed that Comey asked for more funds for Russia and the deputy attorney general threatened to resign over Comey firing. They push bullshit story after bullshit story.
hater isn't correct about much but he's right about WaPo being a CIA mouthpiece.
what about it?
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by
TSA
Or nothing disastrous happened like the WaPo is trying to paint.
You're putting a lot of faith in the WaPo after they've already been caught pushing outrageous Russia stories they later revised or retracted. I'll take McMaster at his word until more details come out.
You're putting a lot of faith in a white house that said they fired Comey for being unfair to Clinton one day and then Russia the next.
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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baseline bum
Can you tell us what Spicer said too? What about KellyAnne?
:tu We'll know the truth when they chime in, along with Bannon & Sarah Huckabee Sanders.
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
:lol...we have elected Biff from Back to the Future
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by
spurraider21
what about it?
it didn't happen
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
This was a pretty genius fake news story by the WaPo.
Anonymous report with no way to find out if it's credibly true.
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
Apparently WH staffers were heard having yelling matches after the story broke.
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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djohn2oo8
:lol
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
I was in the room, it didn't happen *drops mic*
:lol WaPo and you suckers
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by
TSA
I was in the room, it didn't happen *drops mic*
:lol WaPo and you suckers
No where in that statement did he deny that Donald revealed classified info to the Russians. That was a very carefully worded statement.
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
I hope TSA is getting paid by the Russians for all his shitposting
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by
Th'Pusher
No where in that statement did he deny that Donald revealed classified info to the Russians. That was a very carefully worded statement.
"The story that came out tonight as reported is false"
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by
baseline bum
I hope TSA is getting paid by the Russians for all his shitposting
At what point do you start to realize you're being played by the media who's being fed stories from pissed off intelligence agents/gov lifers that are still trying to cling to the power they've been so used to?
3 fake news stories from WaPo in a week and you don't bat an eye.
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by
TSA
"The story that came out tonight as reported is false"
Did he deny that Donald revealed classified information to the Russians, yes or no?
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by
TSA
At what point do you start to realize you're being played by the media who's being fed stories from pissed off intelligence agents/gov lifers that are still trying to cling to the power they've been so used to?
3 fake news stories from WaPo in a week and you don't bat an eye.
LOL calling every bad story about Dear Leader fake news
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by
TSA
At what point do you start to realize you're being played by the media who's being fed stories from pissed off intelligence agents/gov lifers that are still trying to cling to the power they've been so used to?
3 fake news stories from WaPo in a week and you don't bat an eye.
Thanks for the heads up on the avocados. I'll definitely grab some up if HEB has them this week.
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
The McMaster Statement
McMaster’s specific denials remain what I noted about his statement given originally to the Post.
They deny things the Post story does not allege.
As I read it, the Post says
Trump revealed classified information from which sources and methods information can be inferred,
not that he discussed them directly. It’s quite possible Trump may not even know that level of detail.
That part is a classic non-denial denial.
But McMaster adds at the top: “The story that came out tonight as reported is false.”
The “as reported” is a hedge. But more fundamentally saying “the story” is false can mean anything. He doubles down later.
“I was in the room. It didn’t happen.” But again, what didn’t happen?
The only reason I can think of to be totalizing in general and lawyerly and non-denailing in the specifics is
that you’re trying to deny something that actually did happen.
Even though I think these statements are far more general than they may seem, it’s just as true that
McMaster is putting his credibility on the line for Trump.
If the circumstances were different, this might give me some pause about the story. But the
Post and the Times just have infinitely more credibility than the Trump White House at this point.
What’s more, there are details about
giving ‘heads up’ calls to the NSA and CIA.
Assuming those calls were made, that
certainly strongly suggests something serious went wrong.
As I noted earlier after Deputy National Security Advisor Powell made her statement,
if McMaster felt he was able to deny the story, he would have done so in his original statement to the Post. But he didn’t.
He has sort of done so now, but with his specific declarations still denying things which were never alleged.
The most reasonable take on this is that McMaster’s statement can’t really deny the details of the story. But the story is of sufficient gravity that he has felt the need to deceive the public, putting his own credibility on the line and destroying it in one moment.
If the story falls apart, perhaps he’ll be vindicated. But
it looks like he just sacrificed his credibility on the altar of Trump.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/...ster-statement
:lol
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by
TSA
it didn't happen
how do you know?
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by
spurraider21
how do you know?
DOJ flatly denied it and not a single person from congress said it happened.
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by
TSA
DOJ flatly denied it and not a single person from congress said it happened.
the DOJ denial was in the post's original story that you're laughing at. the post story also says the NYT first reported this, not the post
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by
baseline bum
LOL calling every bad story about Dear Leader fake news
There's plenty of bad stories about Trump that are true. This isn't one of them.
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by
spurraider21
the DOJ denial was in the post's original story that you're laughing at. the post story also says the NYT first reported this, not the post
I confused the origins of the fake news story, my bad.