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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by
Spurs Homer
Continuing the COVER UPPPP!
I think the judge is backing away from a constitutional tussle he thinks isn't worth the candle -- he is after all, the same judge who originally ordered production.
Impugning the character of every judge who doesn't rule the way you want is more or less childish, spurshomer.
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
inb4 judge sullivan is part of the deep state now
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by
Winehole23
I think the judge is backing away from a constitutional tussle he thinks isn't worth the candle -- he is after all, the same judge who originally ordered production.
Impugning the character of every judge who doesn't rule the way you want is more or less childish,
spurshomer.
why would you wrongly assume i was blaming the judge instead of the corrupt barr?
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by
Spurs Homer
why would you wrongly assume i was blaming the judge instead of the corrupt barr?
Barr was not mentioned in the post you replied to, nor was he involved in Judge Sullivan's emended orders.
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by
Winehole23
Barr was not mentioned in the post you replied to, nor was he involved in Judge Sullivan's emended orders.
barr is the head of the doj
judge asked for sensitive material to be released - no - he ordered it
doj - replies (confidentially) to judge - reasons why judge should rescind his order
judge rescinds order
i would give the judge the benefit of the doubt
i would not put anything past barr to include bogus “national security” concerns to sway the judge
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
Baldly inferential and evidence free, but that's kinda your style.
That said, it's not implausible.
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by
Winehole23
Baldly inferential and evidence free, but that's kinda your style.
That said, it's not implausible.
so after barrs behavior, his blatant cover up, his dishonesty, his blatant partisanship
you, naturally, blindly believe his moves are legit
of course you would
it took over 10,000 lies uttered by trump for YOU to begin to question HIS motives and criminality and corruption
welp- no shock - that is kinda your style
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
10 lbs. of bullshit in a 5 lb. sack, you do it nearly every time.
I said nothing about Barr or his credibility, and your hypothesis that Judge Sullivan is Barr's catspaw is mere speculation.
Taking exception to your exaggeration, paranoia and fact free conjectures doesn't make me or anyone else a Trumpista.
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by
Winehole23
10 lbs. of bullshit in a 5 lb. sack, you do it nearly every time.
I said nothing about Barr or his credibility, and your hypothesis that Judge Sullivan is Barr's catspaw is mere speculation.
Taking exception to your exaggeration, paranoia and fact free conjectures doesn't make me or anyone else a Trumpista.
Remember when the Mueller report was released and everybody spiked the football?
I don't know if you did also - but most everyone here said "that's it - case closed - no crimes, etc"
Except for me.
I said then - that this was a cover up and that BARR was a piece of shit.
Here we are months later - and it appears everyone is coming around to seeing that maybe BARR was a piece of shit - and that he indeed misrepresented - at best - the Mueller report -
So - onward we go...
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
Man, you are really sweet on yourself.
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by
Winehole23
Man, you are really sweet on yourself.
translation: "godamn - I cannot truthfully deny it"
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by
Spurs Homer
translation: "godamn - I cannot truthfully deny it"
Deny what, that you are sweet on your own cogitation? Certainly not.
Doubt that's what you meant, but indefinite pronoun reference is a bitch. You ahould try using your words to say what you mean, if you mean to be clearly understood.
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
So compromised, venal Flynn's new team, very probably handed to him by the Repug establishment, will fight hard against his sentencing. They can't roll back his guilty plea, the reasons for which, the conversations with Russian(s), are being hidden by Barr.
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by
TSA
Flynn should've fired them after they floated their conspiracy theories in December's sentencing filing and forced Flynn to take a shit on them in open court.
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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TSA
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
Twitterbots: Anatomy of a Propaganda Campaign
Internet Research Agency archive reveals a vast, coordinated campaign that was incredibly successful at pushing out and amplifying its messages.
Key Findings
- The operation was carefully planned, with accounts often registered months before they were used – and well in advance of the 2016 U.S. presidential election. The average time between account creation and first tweet was 177 days.
- A core group of main accounts was used to push out new content. These were often ”fake news” outlets masquerading as regional news outlets or pretended to be political organizations.
- A much larger pool of auxiliary accounts was used to amplify messages pushed out by the main accounts. These usually pretended to be individuals.
- The campaign directed propaganda at both sides of the liberal/conservative political divide in the U.S., in particular the more disaffected elements of both camps.
- Most accounts were primarily automated, but they would frequently show signs of manual intervention, such as posting original content or slightly changing the wording of reposted contented, presumably in an attempt to make them appear more authentic and reduce the risk of their deletion. Fake news accounts were set up to monitor blog activity and automatically push new blog posts to Twitter. Auxiliary accounts were configured to retweet content pushed out by the main accounts.
- The most retweeted account garnered over 6 million retweets. Only a small fraction (1,850) of those retweets came from other accounts within the dataset, meaning many of the retweets could have come from genuine Twitter users.
https://www.symantec.com/blogs/threat-intelligence/twitterbots-propaganda-disinformation
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
So about that Kilimnik dude you all claimed was Russian intelligence...
Key figure that Mueller report linked to Russia was a State Department intel source
https://thehill.com/opinion/white-ho...VZyowU.twitter
:lmao
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by
TSA
“Three sources with direct knowledge of the inner workings of Mueller’s office confirmed to me that the special prosecutor’s team had all of the FBI interviews with State officials, as well as Kilimnik’s intelligence reports to the U.S. Embassy, well before they portrayed him as a Russian sympathizer tied to Moscow intelligence or charged Kilimnik with participating with Manafort in a scheme to obstruct the Russia investigation.
Kasanof’s and Purcell’s interviews are corroborated by scores of State Department emails I reviewed that contain regular intelligence from Kilimnik on happenings inside the Yanukovych administration, the Crimea conflict and Ukrainian and Russian politics. For example, the memos show Kilimnik provided real-time intelligence on everything from whose star in the administration was rising or falling to efforts at stuffing ballot boxes in Ukrainian elections.
Those emails raise further doubt about the Mueller report’s portrayal of Kilimnik as a Russian agent. They show Kilimnik was allowed to visit the United States twice in 2016 to meet with State officials, a clear sign he wasn’t flagged in visa databases as a foreign intelligence threat.
The emails also show how misleading, by omission, the Mueller report’s public portrayal of Kilimnik turns out to be.”
:lol looking forward to the attempted spin or crickets
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I can’t wait to find out the Obama State department was receiving polling data from the guy Mueller accused of being Russian intelligence :lmao
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Lol propaganda
comrade tsa never learns
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Kilimnik : double agent, TSA so naive
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
How would he know what Russia wanted in a Ukraine deal if he didn't have extensive Russian contacts?
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by
Pavlov
How would he know what Russia wanted in a Ukraine deal if he didn't have extensive Russian contacts?
Flynn, NRA, Jill Stein, the Milwaukee Black Cowboy with the too-big white hat, all went to Moscow to hobnob and dine with Russians. I assume the Russians let it be known what they wanted for the USA (degradation, loss of power and status, isolation, destruction of EU, lifting of very punitive Magnitsky sanctions,etc)
I still wonder where Jill Stein's money came from to stay in the campaign and split vote with Hillary.
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by
RandomGuy
:lol Russian intelligence
:lol Mueller
“Three sources with direct knowledge of the inner workings of Mueller’s office confirmed to me that the special prosecutor’s team had all of the FBI interviews with State officials, as well as Kilimnik’s intelligence reports to the U.S. Embassy, well before they portrayed him as a Russian sympathizer tied to Moscow intelligence or charged Kilimnik with participating with Manafort in a scheme to obstruct the Russia investigation.
Kasanof’s and Purcell’s interviews are corroborated by scores of State Department emails I reviewed that contain regular intelligence from Kilimnik on happenings inside the Yanukovych administration, the Crimea conflict and Ukrainian and Russian politics. For example, the memos show Kilimnik provided real-time intelligence on everything from whose star in the administration was rising or falling to efforts at stuffing ballot boxes in Ukrainian elections.
Those emails raise further doubt about the Mueller report’s portrayal of Kilimnik as a Russian agent. They show Kilimnik was allowed to visit the United States twice in 2016 to meet with State officials, a clear sign he wasn’t flagged in visa databases as a foreign intelligence threat.
The emails also show how misleading, by omission, the Mueller report’s public portrayal of Kilimnik turns out to be.”