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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by
DarrinS
Hopefully, they have more info than what was publicly reported by Crowdstrike. Their evidence for attribution to Russia wasn't very compelling.
After the Vault 7 release attribution became nearly impossible for any hack unless hackers were caught in the act.
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by
TSA
Surely you have more from the NSA than the ODNI that was widely laughed at by the security community.
So now you are going to trash your own report? Logical consistency is not your strong suit.
So when you want something you laud the medium certainty of the report. When you don't want something, you make up stories about how the "security industry" laughs at it.
You're so full of shit.
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by
TSA
After the Vault 7 release attribution became nearly impossible for any hack unless hackers were caught in the act.
Via the tools used sure but there are other ways to trace the source particularly for an entity like the NSA who has their thumb on the telecom industry as outlined by Snowden.
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by
DarrinS
Hopefully, they have more info than what was publicly reported by Crowdstrike. Their evidence for attribution to Russia wasn't very compelling.
Given the breadth and access that the NSA has it's a certainty they do.
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by
FuzzyLumpkins
So now you are going to trash your own report? Logical consistency is not your strong suit.
So when you want something you laud the medium certainty of the report. When you don't want something, you make up stories about how the "security industry" laughs at it.
You're so full of shit.
I've trashed it since it's release. That pesky ignore feature has you playing catch up.
Also, you forgot to add more NSA attribution beyond the ODNI
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by
FuzzyLumpkins
Via the tools used sure but there are other ways to trace the source particularly for an entity like the NSA who has their thumb on the telecom industry as outlined by Snowden.
Explain the CIA's Umbrage in your own words.
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by
TSA
I've trashed it since it's release. That pesky ignore feature has you playing catch up.
Also, you forgot to add more NSA attribution beyond the ODNI
You try to have it both ways. Refer to it when it suits your argument and then disclaim it when it doesn't. It's sophistry. No reason to take you seriously.
You do not understand the role of the DNI.
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by
TSA
Explain the CIA's Umbrage in your own words.
:lol you think that leak is the totality of it.
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by
FuzzyLumpkins
You try to have it both ways. Refer to it when it suits your argument and then disclaim it when it doesn't. It's sophistry. No reason to take you seriously.
You do not understand the role of the DNI.
I've never tried to have it both ways. I've shit on the report from the start. The NSA's moderate confidence in a lackluster and laughable report only bolsters my point.
Convince me the ODNI report that was 75% about RT news reports was not laughable.
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by
FuzzyLumpkins
:lol you think that leak is the totality of it.
Totality of what exactly?
Umbrage is specific to the topic at hand. Vault 7 in its entirety is a whole other thread.
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by
TSA
I've never tried to have it both ways. I've shit on the report from the start. The NSA's moderate confidence in a lackluster and laughable report only bolsters my point.
Convince me the ODNI report that was 75% about RT news reports was not laughable.
We both know you cherry picked the medium one and ignored the high confidence conclusions. I do find it amusing that is what stuck out in your mind though. I went ahead and quoted the ones you ignored to outline your attempt at deception.
I have no desire to try and convince you. If you want to make arguments then I will argue the issue but convincing you is a waste of time. You're intellectually lazy, pigheaded, and dumb. Taking the time to explain topics of even an intermediate level is just tedious so I pass.
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by
TSA
Totality of what exactly?
Umbrage is specific to the topic at hand. Vault 7 in its entirety is a whole other thread.
If you know what that selection is and cannot understand what I mean by a greater totality then you are as dumb as I think you are. If someone else wants an explanation then fine but your ignorance is not worth the time to fix.
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
Richard Clarke
“That’s why he’s not investigating it!” Clarke exclaimed. “That’s why he’s not doing all the things we need to do to make sure it can’t happen again… This is the 21st century equivalent to having Russians land Marines on the Jersey Shore. They invaded our country. They invaded our political system and they won. And he doesn’t care.”
http://www.rawstory.com/2017/06/russ...e+Raw+Story%29
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by
djohn2oo8
Reck
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by
spurraider21
is this boom?
Yes. Very bad night for team treason
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
I learned from the articles that many people were looking for Hillary Clinton's hacked emails.
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by
FuzzyLumpkins
We both know you cherry picked the medium one and ignored the high confidence conclusions. I do find it amusing that is what stuck out in your mind though. I went ahead and quoted the ones you ignored to outline your attempt at deception.
I have no desire to try and convince you. If you want to make arguments then I will argue the issue but convincing you is a waste of time. You're intellectually lazy, pigheaded, and dumb. Taking the time to explain topics of even an intermediate level is just tedious so I pass.
You won't argue the issue and shy away from key components when pressed.
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by
pgardn
I learned from the articles that many people were looking for Hillary Clinton's hacked emails.
And Russians discussing getting it to Trump's NSA pick.
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by
pgardn
I learned from the articles that many people were looking for Hillary Clinton's hacked emails.
I too was looking for Clinton emails. Maybe I'll write an article.
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by
djohn2oo8
And Russians discussing getting it to Trump's NSA pick.
Russians gave these to many people. Did the NSA chief request them from the Russians after asking the Russians to illegally gather them?
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by
djohn2oo8
:rollin