Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions

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Originally Posted by RandomGuy

Your choices here are a false dichotomy. It is possible that both could occur.

Who wins then?

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It would technically be a draw. We would then move on to see if anyone serves jail time. If no one serves jail time we will move on to who is fined the most.

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Originally Posted by Blake

No, I run into that same problem with you tbh

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You are Chumplite this should not come as a shock.

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Originally Posted by TSA

You are Chumplite this should not come as a shock.

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You don't do logic. It's as simple as that.

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Originally Posted by RandomGuy

This shit is going to get confusing.

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What is your aspect ratio? :lol

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Originally Posted by RandomGuy

TSA posts things that I generally don't run across in my normal information flows, that challenge my underlying operating assumptions.

That is good for me, as well as the opportunity to identify flaws in thinking and reasoning, as with many self-styled "conservative" or libertarian thinkers.

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If I wasn't here you would probably still think the DNC was actually hacked and not an inside job.

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Originally Posted by Pavlov

I find that few people are all that interested in that question and don't ask it.

I am genuinely interested in what you really think is going on here. You don't seem to be stupid and your conclusion is completely different from mine. I admit my default Occam's Razor reasoning looks pretty lazy, but there is a reason it has such a cool name. I think that someone had to do a lot of work to come to the conclusions you seem to have reached, so yeah -- I'm asking about it and I'm not afraid to ask you about it multiple times. I'm never going to understand your point of view here if you refuse to explain it.

The baffling part is why you refuse.

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I've told you what I think is going on and have done so multiple times. I don't keep responding to the same question when you ask it day after day.

Russia Prime Minister: new US sanctions amount to ‘full-scale trade war’

http://2d0yaz2jiom3c6vy7e7e5svk.wpen...13-800x430.jpg

Medvedev also said in a Facebook post that the sanctions showed

the Trump administration was utterly powerless. WINNING! :lol

“The hope that our relations with the new American administration would improve is finished,” he wrote.

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/08/russ...ale-trade-war/

:lol Trash is WINNING friends in PootinLand.

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Originally Posted by TSA

It would technically be a draw. We would then move on to see if anyone serves jail time. If no one serves jail time we will move on to who is fined the most.

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Wow, that so does not interest me, but hey.

What do I get if I win?

The only thing I really would want is for you read a formal article or two on critical thinking, and pick something to apply it to some of your 4chan stuff. I have been reading up a lot trying to find material to teach my kids, so I have some good resources.

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Originally Posted by TSA

If I wasn't here you would probably still think the DNC was actually hacked and not an inside job.

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I am still not entirely convinced even so. Your source has a definite ax to grind, and that leads me to be cautious about accepting conclusions. People that are trying that hard will shoehorn round pegs into square holes, and not blink at the result.

It wouldn't interest me enough to dig into.

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Originally Posted by RandomGuy

Wow, that so does not interest me, but hey.

What do I get if I win?

The only thing I really would want is for you read a formal article or two on critical thinking, and pick something to apply it to some of your 4chan stuff. I have been reading up a lot trying to find material to teach my kids, so I have some good resources.

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From the OP bet

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Originally Posted by TSA

friendly avatar bet. Winner chooses losers avatar, you determine the length of the terms.

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Originally Posted by RandomGuy

I am still not entirely convinced even so. Your source has a definite ax to grind, and that leads me to be cautious about accepting conclusions. People that are trying that hard will shoehorn round pegs into square holes, and not blink at the result.

It wouldn't interest me enough to dig into.

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What sort of axe to grind did VIPS have? I thought you said their work was well respected.

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Originally Posted by boutons_deux

Russia Prime Minister: new US sanctions amount to ‘full-scale trade war’

http://2d0yaz2jiom3c6vy7e7e5svk.wpen...13-800x430.jpg

Medvedev also said in a Facebook post that the sanctions showed

the Trump administration was utterly powerless. WINNING! :lol

“The hope that our relations with the new American administration would improve is finished,” he wrote.

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/08/russ...ale-trade-war/

:lol Trash is WINNING friends in PootinLand.

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So you hated him when he was friendly with Russia and now you hate him because he's not getting along Russia

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Originally Posted by AaronY

So you hated him when he was friendly with Russia and now you hate him because he's not getting along Russia

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He's not the only one here. Funny how quickly things change.

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Originally Posted by TSA

I've told you what I think is going on and have done so multiple times.

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Not really though. Your theory is pretty vague and doesn't make much sense on its face.

Your claim is that only Democrats are going to be indicted by Mueller. You don't say for what and how they did whatever you think it is they did. You just leave it for others to fill in the blanks which is incredibly lazy and disingenuous. When I ask you directly, you start hiding behind your games like "questions three" and hanging up any discussion on minutiae that really doesn't matter at all.

You lead with something like "The Mother of All Conspiracies" and end up with the vague assertion that child abuse happens in the world. You say stuff like "I think the Mueller investigation isn't going to go the way you think it will." Great. Say the way you think it will go. To do so, you have to include pretty much everything you think the Democrats did in some detail. Otherwise, you look like just another ST conspiracy dude who pouts and whines when he is called out.

These are your claims. State what they are and your evidence to support them. You could have done that several times over today already , but you just want to post personal insults, play games and change your avatar.

Russian Prime Minister and President Putin’s right-hand man Dmitry Medvedev posted a vicious message to Facebook

"The US President’s signing of the package of new sanctions against Russia will have a few consequences.

First, it ends hopes for improving our relations with the new US administration.

Second, it is a declaration of a full-fledged economic war on Russia.

Third, the Trump administration has shown its total weakness by handing over executive power to Congress in the most humiliating way.

This changes the power balance in US political circles.

What does it mean for them?

The US establishment fully outwitted Trump;

the President is not happy about the new sanctions, yet he could not but sign the bill.

The issue of new sanctions came about, primarily, as another way to knock Trump down a peg.

New steps are to come, and they will ultimately aim to remove him from power.

A non-systemic player has to be removed.

Meanwhile, the interests of the US business community are all but ignored, with politics chosen over a pragmatic approach.

Anti-Russian hysteria has become a key part of both US foreign policy (which has occurred many times) and domestic policy (which is a novelty)."

http://washingtonjournal.com/2017/08...facebook-post/

wow! :lol

Pootin calling Trash "total weakness" which is Russian for "obesity-caused impotence" :lol

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Originally Posted by AaronY

So you hated him when he was friendly with Russia and now you hate him because he's not getting along Russia

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You must be taking lessons from pgarden for "Fucked Up Takes"

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Originally Posted by Pavlov

Not really though. Your theory is pretty vague and doesn't make much sense on its face.

Your claim is that only Democrats are going to be indicted by Mueller. You don't say for what and how they did whatever you think it is they did. You just leave it for others to fill in the blanks which is incredibly lazy and disingenuous. When I ask you directly, you start hiding behind your games like "questions three" and hanging up any discussion on minutiae that really doesn't matter at all.

You lead with something like "The Mother of All Conspiracies" and end up with the vague assertion that child abuse happens in the world. You say stuff like "I think the Mueller investigation isn't going to go the way you think it will." Great. Say the way you think it will go. To do so, you have to include pretty much everything you think the Democrats did in some detail. Otherwise, you look like just another ST conspiracy dude who pouts and whines when he is called out.

These are your claims. State what they are and your evidence to support them. You could have done that several times over today already , but you just want to post personal insults, play games and change your avatar.

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Again, I've stated what I think happened numerous times and posted what I feel supports my position. Much of it is in this very thread. I asked you three simple questions to see if we could at least agree on a starting point for my theory and refused to answer them and give a bullshit excuse as to why. You then expect me to repost everything I've said in a 300 page thread. Not playing that game with you.

You have certainly changed your tone though and now seem like you actually do want to discuss the topic. We'll see how long that lasts.

:lol dude this is usually how it goes:

Tsa: I think pizza is tasty. Pepperoni is shown to have health benefits.
Someone else: what kind of benefits?
Tsa: why don't you think pizza is tasty?
SE: I do but what about the pepperoni benefits?
Tsa: answer my question first!


Then it's another 100 posts going in circles

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Originally Posted by TSA

Again, I've stated what I think happened numerous times and posted what I feel supports my position. Much of it is in this very thread. I asked you three simple questions to see if we could at least agree on a starting point for my theory and refused to answer them and give a bullshit excuse as to why. You then expect me to repost everything I've said in a 300 page thread. Not playing that game with you.

You have certainly changed your tone though and now seem like you actually do want to discuss the topic. We'll see how long that lasts.

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:lol Trying to justify your "questions three" game.

Agree on a starting point for your theory? It's your theory. Start it wherever you want, champ.

No games. Go.

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Originally Posted by Blake

:lol dude this is usually how it goes:

Tsa: I think pizza is tasty. Pepperoni is shown to have health benefits.
Someone else: what kind of benefits?
Tsa: why don't you think pizza is tasty?
SE: I do but what about the pepperoni benefits?
Tsa: answer my question first!


Then it's another 100 posts going in circles

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Fail. Question was answered with I do.

House Republicans want to investigate Hillary Clinton, after having “done zero” about Trump-Russia probes

Rep. Bob Goodlatte believes it's "redundant" for several committees to investigate alleged Trump campaign ties

The House Judiciary Committee has turned an investigation into any possible collusion between President Donald Trump and Russia during the 2016 presidential campaign into a witch hunt,

probing “decisions made by President Barack Obama’s Justice Department in its probe of Clinton’s use of a private email server, :lol

as well as alleged Clinton ties to foreign governments and :lol

the leaking of classified information,” :lol

The new focus comes after Democrats on the House panel sought further information on the role of Attorney General Jeff Sessions in the firing of former FBI Director James Comey.

But Rep. Bob Goodlatte, R-Va., and Republicans instead pivoted and “turned it into a request demanding new probes into Clinton,”

http://www.salon.com/2017/08/02/hous...russia-probes/

But Repugs running like 8 committees and wasting $10M to harass Hillary

WHILE

FBI was investigating Hillary

was not "redundant"

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Originally Posted by Pavlov

:lol Trying to justify your "questions three" game.

Agree on a starting point for your theory? It's your theory. Start it wherever you want, champ.

No games. Go.

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I asked the questions because if we don't agree on some basic facts to begin with there is no point in me wasting my time explaining my theory to you.

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Originally Posted by Blake

:lol dude this is usually how it goes:

Tsa: I think pizza is tasty. Pepperoni is shown to have health benefits.
Someone else: what kind of benefits?
Tsa: why don't you think pizza is tasty?
SE: I do but what about the pepperoni benefits?
Tsa: answer my question first!


Then it's another 100 posts going in circles

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Thus my asking why people entertain it. Change the subject, latch on to a red herring, or try to make it about you.

He is blatantly disingenuous and people still argue with him at face value when he deserves nothing but ridicule and condescension.

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Originally Posted by FuzzyLumpkins

Thus my asking why people entertain it. Change the subject, latch on to a red herring, or try to make it about you.

He is blatantly display ingenuous and people argue with him at face value when he deserves nothing but ridicule and condescension.

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:cry you should all ridicule TSA while I hide behind the ignore feature :cry

grow a pair you fucking pansy

Now he's trying to draw me into an argument over the ignore feature being on it before. I just refuse to engage. We all know the adage about arguing with fools. I've never seen a more apt example.