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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by
Chucho
LOL, you still seriously think he's getting forced out. He's making it thru this term and you're eating the shit sammich you're hoping TSA and so on will.:lmao
No he's not. And you are welcome to leave once he is forced out.
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by
Chucho
LOL, you still seriously think he's getting forced out. He's making it thru this term and you're eating the shit sammich you're hoping TSA and so on will.:lmao
Flying to close to the sun with that prediction, Chucho.
He's one Mueller and congress change away from being finished.
I'd say the likelihood of Mueller finding something wrong with Trump is pretty high at this point. Trump's got a couple of bullets to dodge yet.
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by
djohn2oo8
No he's not. And you are welcome to leave once he is forced out.
No worries, you're wrong and I'll stick around to make fun of a retarded, simple tool like you.
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by
Reck
Flying to close to the sun with that prediction, Chucho.
He's one Mueller and congress change away from being finished.
I'd say the likelihood of Mueller finding something wrong with Trump is pretty high at this point. Trump's got a couple of bullets to dodge yet.
I'm hoping they do, tbh, said it multiple times. I think the investigation hit it's peak and the charges and indictments filed already so be the biggest victories for Mueller. He will finish his term as one of the worst POTUSes ever, but I think he makes it all the way.
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Chris
"Daily Caller upset it doesn't get special treatment."
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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“I have to see first what they’ve done. Give us materials, give us information,” Putin said in an interview with NBC TV, according to an English voice-over. “We can not respond to that if they do not violate Russian laws.”
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“With all due respect for you personally, with all due respect for Congress, you must have people with legal degrees, 100 percent you do,” Putin said with a smile, according to Reuters. “This has to go through official channels, not through the press or yelling and hollering in the United States Congress.”
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
Makes perfect sense about TSA and Chris
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by
djohn2oo8
Makes perfect sense about TSA and Chris
This is the least surprising development in some time.
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by
Pavlov
Could be any number of crimes and any number of reasons he hasn't been indicted. They only stopped monitoring him a few months ago.
Because renewals.
Since you're all about questions now -- How can you predict Horowitz will recommend criminal charges when you haven't read his report?
Because that’s how predictions work.
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by
djohn2oo8
Makes perfect sense about TSA and Chris
What makes perfect sense? Be specific.
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by
Pavlov
And, predictably, TSA withers away....
And, predictably, Pavlov assumes everyone else will be spending their entire Saturday on spurstalk
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by
TSA
Because that’s how predictions work.
So you can predict Horowitz will recommend criminal charges without having anything from Horowitz at all but wilt when asked what those charges will be and against whom.
That's how TSA works.
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by
Pavlov
So you can predict Horowitz will recommend criminal charges without having anything from Horowitz at all but wilt when asked what those charges will be and against whom.
That's how TSA works.
Could be any number of crimes and any number of reasons he recommends charges.
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by
TSA
Could be any number of crimes and any number of reasons he recommends charges.
Too bad I never made any predictions about Carter Page at all. I said not every FISA warrant is designed to set up a criminal indictment of the subject.
This is how TSA works. He lies.
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by
Pavlov
Too bad I never made any predictions about Carter Page at all. I said not every FISA warrant is designed to set up a criminal indictment of the subject.
This is how TSA works. He lies.
”If the government wants to establish that an American is a foreign agent, it must demonstrate that the American is knowingly engaged in clandestine activity on behalf of the foreign power that is so egregious it very likely constitutes a serious federal felony — e.g., terrorism, sabotage, or using false identities while spying on behalf of the foreign power.”
What FISA warrant is designed to not set up a criminal indictment of the subject?
In order for them to get a FISA against Page they needed to show they had probable cause he was an active purposeful agent of a foreign power. Do you believe Carter Page was and is an active purposeful agent of a foreign power? When Carter Page was assisting the FBI to bring convictions in 2013 was he an active purposeful agent of a foreign power? Or did he just become one after helping secure convictions?
(A) knowingly engages in clandestine intelligence gathering activities for or on behalf of a foreign power, which activities involve or may involve a violation of the criminal statutes of the United States;
(B) pursuant to the direction of an intelligence service or network of a foreign power, knowingly engages in any other clandestine intelligence activities for or on behalf of such foreign power, which activities involve or are about to involve a violation of the criminal statutes of the United States;
(C) knowingly engages in sabotage or international terrorism, or activities that are in preparation therefor, for or on behalf of a foreign power;
(D) knowingly enters the United States under a false or fraudulent identity for or on behalf of a foreign power or, while in the United States, knowingly assumes a false or fraudulent identity for or on behalf of a foreign power; or
(E) knowingly aids or abets any person in the conduct of activities described in subparagraph (A), (B), or (C) or knowingly conspires with any person to engage in activities described in subparagraph (A), (B), or (C).
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
Heh, TSA demands I speculate more than he did before wilting.
This is how TSA works.
All I know is Republican appointed judges kept renewing the warrant.
I'd ask TSA what the criteria for renewing a warrant are, but he would wilt.
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by
Pavlov
Heh, TSA demands I speculate more than he did before wilting.
This is how TSA works.
All I know is Republican appointed judges kept renewing the warrant.
I'd ask TSA what the criteria for renewing a warrant are, but he would wilt.
:lmao
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by
Pavlov
Heh, TSA demands I speculate more than he did before wilting.
This is how TSA works.
All I know is Republican appointed judges kept renewing the warrant.
I'd ask TSA what the criteria for renewing a warrant are, but he would wilt.
Merely some follow up questions to the statement you just made.
What FISA warrant is designed to not set up a criminal indictment of the subject?
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by
TSA
Merely some follow up questions to the statement you just made.
What FISA warrant is designed to not set up a criminal indictment of the subject?
FISA warrants operate on reasonable suspicion, not concrete proof: The FBI doesn’t have to prove somebody is a spy or a criminal to get a FISA warrant. Instead, they have to prove they have a reasonable suspicion somebody is an agent of a foreign power, which is not just spies and terrorists, but also anybody who aids and abets them, even unknowingly.
https://uproxx.com/news/what-is-fisa...a-devin-nunes/
Since you are so into questions, I'll ask you one -- what are the criteria for renewing a FISA warrant, TSA?
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by
Pavlov
FISA warrants operate on reasonable suspicion, not concrete proof: The FBI doesn’t have to prove somebody is a spy or a criminal to get a FISA warrant. Instead, they have to prove they have a reasonable suspicion somebody is an agent of a foreign power, which is not just spies and terrorists, but also anybody who aids and abets them, even unknowingly.
https://uproxx.com/news/what-is-fisa...a-devin-nunes/
Since you are so into questions, I'll ask you one -- what are the criteria for renewing a FISA warrant, TSA?
djohn has already posted the criteria as laid out by the former FBI chick.
Grassley and Graham said the FBI relied heavily on the Steele dossier in the application and renewal. How was the FBI able to convince the FISC Page was participating in one the following? And where does it say unknowingly fits the criteria?
A) knowingly engages in clandestine intelligence gathering activities for or on behalf of a foreign power, which activities involve or may involve a violation of the criminal statutes of the United States;
(B) pursuant to the direction of an intelligence service or network of a foreign power, knowingly engages in any other clandestine intelligence activities for or on behalf of such foreign power, which activities involve or are about to involve a violation of the criminal statutes of the United States;
(C) knowingly engages in sabotage or international terrorism, or activities that are in preparation therefor, for or on behalf of a foreign power;
(D) knowingly enters the United States under a false or fraudulent identity for or on behalf of a foreign power or, while in the United States, knowingly assumes a false or fraudulent identity for or on behalf of a foreign power; or
(E) knowingly aids or abets any person in the conduct of activities described in subparagraph (A), (B), or (C) or knowingly conspires with any person to engage in activities described in subparagraph (A), (B), or (C).
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
Just followed both links in the uproxx article and looks like the author pulled unknowingly out of his ass. Can you back up that claim?
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Re: Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
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Originally Posted by
TSA
Just followed both links in the uproxx article and looks like the author pulled unknowingly out of his ass. Can you back up that claim?
Sorry, you have a question pending. Nothing more until you answer.
What are the criteria for renewing a FISA warrant, TSA?