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Great piece on Pop (very informative) from the Washington Post (also political)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sport....html#comments
Gregg Popovich has found the opponent of his life: President Trump
Gregg Popovich called his old basketball coach from the Air Force Academy in late January and asked what Hank Egan, a friend and mentor of nearly 50 years, was up to.
Nothing? Then Popovich had a deal for him. Leave the late January chill of Colorado Springs, hop a plane and spend the week in sunny San Antonio, where Popovich — arguably the National Basketball Association’s best coach but definitely its most complex figure — coached the Spurs. Airline tickets, a hotel room and two good seats for Egan and his wife at AT&T Center — “Pop,” as he’s known, would take care of it all.
Egan agreed, but because this was Popovich he knew the package wouldn’t exactly be free. The 68-year-old Spurs coach isn’t just a five-time NBA champion and the architect of a franchise that is a model of consistency. He’s also one of the most complex figures in professional sports who has emerged as a forceful and unrelenting critic of President Trump and his administration’s more controversial policies.
More than just a high-profile sports figure with a megaphone, Popovich — previously best known off the court as a professional grouch — has revealed the inner workings of a curious, nuanced mind with a series of opinions noteworthy for their thoughtfulness.
“I’d just feel better,” Popovich told reporters the day after Trump’s inauguration, “if someone was in that position that showed the maturity and psychological and emotional level of somebody that was his age. It’s dangerous and it doesn’t do us any good.
“I hope he does a great job. But there’s a difference between respecting the office and the person who occupies it. That respect has to be earned. It’s hard to be respectful of someone when we all have kids, and we’re watching him be misogynistic and xenophobic and racist and make fun of handicapped people.”
More recently, Popovich has criticized Trump’s executive order banning immigrants from seven Muslim-majority countries, and last week the coach suggested that the United States in Trump’s first month had the feel of a country being “invaded by another power.”
The NBA, which holds its annual All-Star Game in New Orleans on Sunday, is notable for the willingness of its stars and executives to wade into political and social activism. Within the NBA, Popovich stands out as a credible voice.
“Sometimes when life moves along,” he told reporters before a game at Indiana this past week, “you’re presented with situations where you find it necessary to speak because so many people either seem to be afraid to or, more sinister, are unwilling to face things and let things go and worry about their own situations.”
Popovich has never been especially willing to let things go. In fact, debate might truly be his favorite sport.
When Egan’s phone rang a few weeks ago, he heard the urgent voice of a man he’d first known as a walk-on player at the Air Force Academy. Back then Popovich, a striking combination of military man and Vietnam-era free spirit, spoke two eastern European languages, majored in Soviet Studies and drove a yellow Corvette. In his mind, he was going to become a real-life James Bond. But when that pursuit lacked the Sean Connery glamour he expected, Popovich returned home to master a complicated and diverse game — and to find his voice in an uncertain world.
Now here he is, and eight days after Trump was sworn in, Popovich called his former coach and invited him to San Antonio. Egan might not open his billfold for a week, but he knew Pop was bunched up and in the mood to argue; Egan, a wisecracking centrist from Brooklyn, was a reliable sparring partner.
“He’s on a mission to educate me,” the 79-year-old retired coach said by phone late in his week with Popovich.
Egan was sitting in a hotel room then, and a few hours later he and his wife would head to Popovich’s house. He knew they’d eat some complicated dish Egan would never remember, and after a while the Spurs coach would bring in a few selections from his 3,000-bottle wine collection.
Then at some point, one of them would say something to light the evening’s fuse, and with the pump primed with opinions and plenty of good red, away they’d go.
A natural curiosity
He’d sit in the bleachers after losses, alone and fuming. Popovich was somehow less patient then, and athletics officials at Division III Pomona-Pitzer — two small colleges in southern California that shared an athletic department — knew their men’s basketball coach needed a novel way to blow off steam.
So into gym walked Pop’s designated arguer, armed with a few conversation starters to get the coach’s mind off another bad game.
More than 30 years ago, long before Popovich’s ornery wit turned NBA sideline interviews into a form of awkward performance art, Steven Koblik’s job was to tame a less subtle beast. Popovich put his hand through a blackboard once, threw chalk at players sometimes and once challenged any player to take a swing at him.
Koblik, a scholarly type with a collection of doctoral degrees, was the Sagehens’ academic adviser; his real job, he says now, was to keep Mount St. Popovich from erupting. The most effective technique was to engage Pop in a debate, a twisted form of relaxation for the coach’s restless mind.
Sometimes Koblik would bring up the Korean War or the underrated presidency of Dwight Eisenhower; he could challenge Popovich on the political climate in Sweden or Israel. Before long, Popovich could barely remember the latest loss.
Koblik saw a young coach with a natural curiosity about the world. Culture fascinated him, differences intrigued him; he could talk books or international affairs or the Reagan White House for hours. Popovich revealed he spoke Russian and Serbian (his immigrant parents’ native tongue), though finding much more about him was a challenge. In between the postgame therapy sessions, Popovich explored the two campuses and went looking for new ways to express himself.
He joined the schools’ fraternity committee and became involved in the campuses’ women’s commission. A part-time associate professor, Popovich moved his wife and two children into an on-campus dorm, and when his mind wandered he’d invite friends or players over to argue about basketball or desegregation or the existence of God. If a conversation was stimulating enough, Popovich would approach his tiny wine rack, eight or nine bottles the seeds of a vast collection, and let the contents and conversation breathe.
“If he saw something that he thought was inequitable or wrong,” former Pomona-Pitzer player Tim Dignan says, “he spoke up for it. He wasn’t afraid to speak his mind.
Other times, as many others discovered, the man just liked to argue — and those who became his friends had that in common with him. Popovich would go on about the complex flavors of some California grape, and just to watch Popovich approach critical mass, Koblik would praise the finest vintages of Coors Light.
Popovich was always trying to prove something, on and off the basketball floor. He’d join pickup games with his players, never above throwing an elbow or a fist to create an opening. “Man,” former Sagehens co-captain Dan Dargan said recently, “you never wanted to guard him.”
He was always looking for the little advantages, a hallmark later of his coaching career, and he discovered that his professorship allowed for a one-year sabbatical. He spent it as a volunteer assistant at the University of Kansas, one of college basketball’s most prestigious programs. In that year Popovich was such an eager volunteer assistant, such a tireless learner, so determined to be heard and noticed that legendary coach Larry Brown would indeed remember him and, in 1988, offer him a job with the Spurs. It was a startling career jump from basketball’s low rungs to its mountaintop, even for a talented coach. Other than two seasons as an assistant coach with the Golden State Warriors in the early 1990s, Popovich has been in San Antonio since.
He’d still call Koblik sometimes, especially when he craved a rollicking debate, but over time Popovich learned to blend his interests: basketball with politics or history or an old-fashioned argument. He showed documentaries sometimes during film sessions, arranged field trips to historic sites, invited guest speakers such as the former Olympian John Carlos, who raised his fist on the medal stand in 1968, to share remarks with his team.
Popovich became purposely difficult during in-game television interviews whose purpose he never understood. Only Craig Sager, the late Turner Sports reporter whose garish suits and unbreakable charm were the perfect counterweights to Popovich’s impatient snarl, seemed to draw personality out of Popovich.
“I was always waiting for the next big interview,” said Craig Sager Jr., whose father died in December but who still answers his phone occasionally to hear Popovich’s voice. “I would almost keep score: One for Popovich, zero for Sager tonight.”
Sager was a worthy opponent, and that’s all Popovich ever wanted.
“He just wants to argue. He wants to debate. He wants what he calls a participatory environment,” said Danny Ferry, who played for and later worked with Popovich in San Antonio. “He does periodically enjoy mixing up a little dirt.”
Embracing his progressivism
For all the conversation starters and debate kindling, there is one topic he refuses to touch: that of Gregg Charles Popovich.
In the early 1990s he was the best man at Larry Brown’s wedding, but now Brown cannot remember a single conversation in which Popovich talked about himself. Reggie Minton, still a close friend years after they were assistant coaches at Air Force, learned on long recruiting trips that the best way to keep a conversation going was to avoid asking Pop about Pop.
“He has made some new friends,” Minton said, “but he has probably lost some other friends in the process.”
Popovich is famously private, conversational evasion another favorite pastime, and nothing ends conversations or interviews faster than a pivot toward his personal life. The Spurs declined an interview request for this story, and following a news conference prior to a game in Philadelphia this month, Popovich abruptly ended an interview with The Washington Post after learning that the intended article’s subject was Popovich himself.
But the truth is, even some of his close friends know only superficial details about him. He prefers cooking shows to ESPN, and he treats the release of the NBA schedule like a holiday because he can comb Zagat for new restaurants to try. Popovich likes avant-garde movies and presidential biographies, and though he earns $11 million per year to coach basketball, he wishes his life were as cool as Anthony Bourdain’s.
Culture or politics or the gift of Tim Duncan, the future Hall of Fame center who was the foundation to all five of San Antonio’s championships, are ripe topics. But how he grew up?
“We talked about God, we talked about religion, very personal things,” said Koblik, who has known Popovich for close to 40 years. “But never about his childhood. That just wasn’t part of what we talked about.”
The reasons he left Merrillville, Ind., to enroll at the Air Force Academy without a scholarship?
“We never have discussed that,” Egan said, “and I would not want to discuss it with him. … You don’t ask questions about that stuff.”
The mysterious two years between graduating from the Academy and returning to the school as an assistant coach?
“I thought he was a spook,” said Dargan, the former Pomona-Pitzer player. “You go to the Air Force Academy and speak Russian and you disappear for a few years? Maybe he was, maybe he wasn’t. Nobody knows.”
Actually, Koblik did pry that much out of him: Popovich spent those two years translating Russian chatter on the border of Turkey, Koblik said. But he was less “007” than stenographer, which was boring to him and so he returned home after fulfilling his active duty requirement.
Over the years he embraced his progressivism, the aging hippie who never stopped wanting to fight the power, though for a long time he did so quietly. He made donations to Democratic causes and candidates, but last year he began displaying his leanings more publicly.
He expressed support for San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick, who kneeled during the national anthem before games last season as a form of protest against police brutality and social injustice. He attended last year’s gay pride parade in New York and, during last fall’s presidential campaign, openly wondered if the United States was approaching a tipping point similar to the one that led to the fall of the Roman Empire.
“The question is: Are we in that process and we don’t even know it?” Popovich was quoted as saying in October by the Wall Street Journal. “I really am starting to think about that. It’s not just the two candidates. It’s the way the whole thing is being treated.”
He zeroed in on Trump, saying after he won the election that the result made him feel “sick to my stomach.”
“What gets lost in the process are African Americans, and Hispanics, and women, and the gay population — not to mention the eighth-grade developmental stage exhibited by him when he made fun of the handicapped person — I mean, come on. That’s what a seventh-grade, eighth-grade bully does. And he was elected president of the United States.
“We would have scolded our kids. We would have had discussions until we were blue in the face trying to get them to understand these things. He is in charge of our country. That’s disgusting.”
Popovich, who in 2015 was named the new coach of the U.S. Olympic basketball team, cleared his mind — or solidified his thoughts — by going for long walks or drives, occasionally dialing old friends to ask what they thought about some issue confronting the country. Before he fully made up his mind, he wanted to consider the views of others.
They’d talk, and he’d listen or sometimes argue. Every once in a while, if the discussion was good enough, Popovich would ask if the friend might like to come down to San Antonio, open a few bottles of the good stuff, and talk more about it.
Interest in other people
The day after the dinner at Popovich’s house, Egan spent the first Saturday of February watching from the middle of the lower level of AT&T Center.
The Spurs dismantled the Denver Nuggets, and Egan found himself admiring the fluidity of San Antonio’s offense, the chemistry of its players, the discipline he can trace back to the Academy. But mostly he watched Popovich, who in his 21st season is the longest-tenured head coach in U.S. professional sports, identify with players and coaches who transcend cultures, nations and backgrounds: Tony Parker, a point guard from France; Manu Ginobili, a shooting guard from Argentina; Kawhi Leonard, a small forward from Los Angeles. Four years ago, 10 of San Antonio’s players were born outside the United States, the most international roster in NBA history. Popovich’s assistant coaches include Becky Hammon, the first woman to be hired full-time as an NBA assistant, and Ettore Messina, a famed EuroLeague coach.
“He is genuinely interested in other people, from other places,” Egan later said of Popovich. “That might scare some coaches, but Pop looks forward to it.”
Egan said the dinner conversation wound up being milder than he’d imagined. Popovich was in a good mood; maybe his comments about Black History Month, systemic racism and more criticism of Trump — who he blamed for fueling racism by attempting to delegitimize Barack Obama’s presidency by questioning his citizenship — helped release the steam.
“It’s a celebration of some of the good things that have happened and a reminder that there’s a lot more work to do,” Popovich told reporters in early February, pivoting toward race relations in general. “But more than anything, I think if people take the time to think about it, I think it is our national sin.”
Egan was in the arena when Popovich made those remarks. The entire experience, he said, made him think back to the early 1970s, when a kid from Indiana arrived at the Air Force Academy and refused to keep quiet.
He’d ask questions and test boundaries and argue until Egan told him to go away. He’d do so for a while, but then the team would be on a bus or a plane, headed on a road trip to some new and interesting land, and the kid would slide into the row next to Egan.
The coach would roll his eyes but let him talk, about Vietnam or the coaches’ game plan or whatever else was on his mind, Egan occasionally entertained but mostly wondering when the day would come that the argumentative kid would grow out of this.
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Re: Great piece on Pop (very informative) from the Washington Post (also political)
If he were a decade younger, I'd seriously think him the next president. I mean, after the last two, I don't think anything would shock me.
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This thread won't end well:lol
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Stick to basketball Pops you cant even reach the WCF lately.
By the way, the vote for Pedro thing during crunch time was not very clever
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Are the Spurs and Pop really spies like that animation video last year. :lol
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Pop is that dude that's against the Trump wall meanwhile he lives in gated community with security guards. Basically, he's full of shit.
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Him being against a $20 billion wall, while possibly living in a gated community doesn't make him hypercritical Not sure how that equates.
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People actually think walls work? :lmao
Faggots. :lmao
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SupremeGuy
Pop is that dude that's against the Trump wall meanwhile he lives in gated community with security guards. Basically, he's full of shit.
Poop is a piece of eurotrash shit. Braying hypocrite. I'd rather have Culburn coach the Spurs, tbh.
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I used to really respect Pop a long long time ago, then I learned how much as a massive hypocrite douche he is.
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UNT Eagles 2016
Poop is a piece of eurotrash shit. Braying hypocrite. I'd rather have Culburn coach the Spurs, tbh.
Pop coach not Culburn
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Hey, Pop...STFU and coach.
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apalisoc_9
Trump>Poop
"Reverting to Islam" :lmao
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apalisoc_9
Trump>Poop
Trump is greater than poop? That's arguable.
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So many butthurts about finding out that the coach they praised and respected for so long doesn't share their political views. It's really funny to watch, tbh. :lol
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Pop for Prez. I can't wait to kick that orange faced, fat, infantile moron out of office.
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DAF86
So many butthurts about finding out that the coach they praised and respected for so long doesn't share their political views. It's really funny to watch, tbh. :lol
Not unexpected from a bunch of red state rednecks.
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Trump supporters still exist after the past month? :lol
Jesus fucking Christ, I can only imagine what you geniuses probably look like. Most likely 60+ years old, have 1 front tooth (barely), a puffy cheek filled with chewing tobacco, mullets with no hair up top, get their news from Facebook, etc
Pop spits on you
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TheGreatYacht
Trump supporters still exist after the past month? :lol
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C44xeJIVcAAG0Oe.jpg
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TheGreatYacht
Trump supporters still exist after the past month? :lol
Jesus fucking Christ, I can only imagine what you geniuses probably look like. Most likely 60+ years old, have 1 front tooth (barely), a puffy cheek filled with chewing tobacco, mullets with no hair up top, get their news from Facebook, etc
Pop spits on you
Dumb ass libs always worried about looks and how much swag you got. It fucking matters to them so much. case and point. ^ Not every Conservative is fat, ugly and from the sticks. Just like not every lib is some dumbass model-actor/actress from Hollywood.
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RGMCSE
Dumb ass libs always worried about looks and how much swag you got. It fucking matters to them so much. case and point. ^ Not every Conservative is fat, ugly and from the sticks. Just like not every lib is some dumbass model-actor/actress from Hollywood.
Trump believes all blacks know each other. Cuckservatives believe all muslims are terrorists. I believe Trump supporters eat possum roadkill and have bruncles.
Deal with it, snowflake.
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cd021
Him being against a $20 billion wall, while possibly living in a gated community doesn't make him hypercritical Not sure how that equates.
If physical barriers didn't work his gated community wouldn't need them... Anything else you need explained for you?
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Pops served 5 years in the Air Force touring with the U.S. Armed Forces Basketball Team. He is credited for thinking about wanting to join the CIA. There are many, many, vets who were real soldiers who do not agree with Pop's political opinion. Not good to antagonize the customers (USAA) no matter how many rings you have.
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TheGreatYacht
Trump believes all blacks know each other. Cuckservatives believe all muslims are terrorists. I believe Trump supporters eat possum roadkill and have bruncles.
Deal with it, snowflake.
Ha,typical lib can't deal with reality then slings insults that best describe himself.
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Trump supporters have double digit IQs. :lmao
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TheGreatYacht
Trump believes all blacks know each other. Cuckservatives believe all muslims are terrorists. I believe Trump supporters eat possum roadkill and have bruncles.
Deal with it, snowflake.
If The Spurs win the chip, Trump would probably ask KL to set up a meeting between him and the black caucus and tell LMA that he'll fix the inner cities by bringing back stop and frisk and sending in the feds to make it safe for his family.:lol
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DAF86
So many butthurts about finding out that the coach they praised an liked respected for so long doesn't share their political views. It's really funny to watch, tbh. :lol
Mine is not about the political views. I don't agree with what he says, but hes free to say what he wants about politics.
But instead of babbling about politics, how bout he answer a question about basketball, his actual job, instead of talking about new planets while making a reporter look like a complete ass. And these are reporters that do nothing but kiss his ass 24/7/365.
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DAF86
So many butthurts about finding out that the coach they praised and respected for so long doesn't share their political views. It's really funny to watch, tbh. :lol
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TheGreatYacht
Trump supporters still exist after the past month? :lol
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spurs10
Trump is greater than poop? That's arguable.
:lol
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Excited to read ducks' opinion regarding this piece, tbh..he proved that he's the most brilliant political pundit on this forum throughout 2016, shitting on anybody that attempted to argue against him..one of the few posters(shit, few people, actually) that accurately predicted the result of the election through thorough analysis..respect..
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cd021
If The Spurs win the chip, Trump would probably ask KL to set up a meeting between him and the black caucus and tell LMA that he'll fix the inner cities by bringing back stop and frisk and sending in the feds to make it safe for his family.:lol
:lmao
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Re: Great piece on Pop (very informative) from the Washington Post (also political)
Fuck Pop. His solution was Hillary.
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Once he took his comments out of the realm of coaching he opened himself up to criticism. Get it pendejo?
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Spurtacular
Fuck Pop. His solution was Hillary.
G F Y
When the PROBLEM was/is PVL so-called Pres Trash, the only solution was Hillary
Looks like Don The Con is suffering from neuro-syphilis. His syndrome fits perfectly
Where are are results of his in-depth, extensive physical checkup by military doctors that every other Pres has published, upon taking office and then annually?
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Money316
Once he took his comments out of the realm of coaching he opened himself up to criticism. Get it pendejo?
You're absolutely correct. I saw zero criticism of Pop until he came out against Trump. Great observation!
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boutons_deux
G F Y
When the PROBLEM was/is PVL so-called Pres Trash, the only solution was Hillary
Looks like Don The Con is suffering from neuro-syphilis. His syndrome fits perfectly
Where are are results of his in-depth, extensive physical checkup by military doctors that every other Pres has published, upon taking office and then annually?
Sorry, I don't speak jibberish.
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dabom
Trump supporters have double digit IQs. :lmao
That's one digit more than the IQ of most posters on the forum, tbh.
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Spurtacular
Sorry, I don't speak jibberish.
You speak jimmerish, we know.
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TheGreatYacht
You speak jimmerish, we know.
:lol
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dabom
People actually think walls work? :lmao
Faggots. :lmao
We got walls and fences here in El Paso. Ask any law enforcement officer around here how much help it does.
None. My wife and her family are from Canutillo. Nearly every person in their neighborhood are home owners and illegal. Or there are several illegals "visiting" every single day.
Don't even ask me how that shizz works.
This wall is nothing, but sunk money for future votes.
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Spurtacular
Fuck Pop. His solution was Hillary.
I'm certain his solution would not have been Hillary, if he was given a choice.
But that's not our current Democratic reality. We have few choices anymore.
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tonight...you
We got walls and fences here in El Paso. Ask any law enforcement officer around here how much help it does.
None. My wife and her family are from Canutillo. Nearly every person in their neighborhood are home owners and illegal. Or there are several illegals "visiting" every single day.
Don't even ask me how that shizz works.
This wall is nothing, but sunk money for future votes.
It's true. If people understand history, which I doubt the average trump voter does, they would know it never works. :lol
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dabom
It's true. If people understand history, which I doubt the average trump voter does, they would know it never works. :lol
It's all just stupid, vote-mongering garbage. Immigrants have done nothing to damage the United States of America in any way.
It's garbage-pandering to the racist whites that get too many electoral votes from the Bible Belt for the conservative Republicans who don't even live the life they want us to live.
This game is rigged all to hell with the electoral college and that's it, I'm done with this talking. I'm not here to do this.
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SupremeGuy
Pop is that dude that's against the Trump wall meanwhile he lives in gated community with security guards. Basically, he's full of shit.
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Spurtacular
Fuck Pop. His solution was Hillary.
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TheGreatYacht
You speak jimmerish, we know.
Nah. Only Jimmered be speakin' Jimmerish.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqX_b_Bu4hI
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tonight...you
I'm certain his solution would not have been Hillary, if he was given a choice.
But that's not our current Democratic reality. We have few choices anymore.
He's gave money to the Clintons and palled around with them. He's never said an ill word of them; he was an outspoken critic against their rival(s); and you're somehow trying to give him an out? Fuck that.
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Spurtacular
He's gave money to the Clintons and palled around with them. He's never said an ill word of them; he was an outspoken critic against their rival(s); and you're somehow trying to give him an out? Fuck that.
Your point of view is respected. And that's about it, bud.
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tonight...you
Your point of view is respected. And that's about it, bud.
Don't really know what that is supposed to mean, tbh.
In any event, Pop doesn't get a pass. If he supports/endorses it, he owns it.
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tonight...you
We got walls and fences here in El Paso. Ask any law enforcement officer around here how much help it does.
None. My wife and her family are from Canutillo. Nearly every person in their neighborhood are home owners and illegal. Or there are several illegals "visiting" every single day.
Don't even ask me how that shizz works.
This wall is nothing, but sunk money for future votes.
Israel has a real wall and it fucking works great.
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TampaDude
Israel has a real wall and it fucking works great.
how long is it? 60 miles? :lol
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TheGreatYacht
Trump supporters still exist after the past month? :lol
Jesus fucking Christ, I can only imagine what you geniuses probably look like. Most likely 60+ years old, have 1 front tooth (barely), a puffy cheek filled with chewing tobacco, mullets with no hair up top, get their news from Facebook, etc
Pop spits on you
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TheGreatYacht
Trump believes all blacks know each other. Cuckservatives believe all muslims are terrorists. I believe Trump supporters eat possum roadkill and have bruncles.
Deal with it, snowflake.
:wow :wow :wow
:lmao
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HarlemHeat37
This thread won't end well:lol
LOL. That's one thing you can count on.
I do think Pop has gotten sort of carried away and obsessed. I remember when Kerr accepted the job with Phoenix, but was still working for TNT. Pop made a comment about how he was wearing too many hats. I think Pop should take his own advice here. Voicing his opinion is one thing. But when he just keeps it up? He needs to be a coach, or go be an activist.
You know... even if he's right about everything, the sky isn't really falling.
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TampaDude
Israel has a real wall and it fucking works great.
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boutons_deux
how long is it? 60 miles? :lol
Yeah, see, I worked there and saw it. It's not a wall - it's two really tall fences with razor wire at the top, separated by maybe 100 yards (guessing, I didn't get that close), with sensors all along and people watching. And it's not the fence, it's the fact that if you try to cross they'll shoot your ass enough times to make sure you're dead. It really doesn't matter how long it is. The fence isn't what keeps people out. But people here would lose the stomach for gunning down trespassers pretty quick.
Then again, regardless of what some of you clowns say or think, there are a LOT of countries in the world that take their borders seriously. Romania STILL has guys with machine guns at the borders and at the airports. I thought they were going to put me in jail because I had a few AA batteries in my luggage. And don't laugh inside one of the border stations in Jordan - about anything. Just don't. There's a lot of fucking ignorance on both sides of this border argument. Your little tiny corner of the world isn't the way the whole world is.
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DAF86
So many butthurts about finding out that the coach they praised and respected for so long doesn't share their political views. It's really funny to watch, tbh. :lol
:lol Beisbol fans
:lol Trumpball
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GSH
Yeah, see, I worked there and saw it. It's not a wall - it's two really tall fences with razor wire at the top, separated by maybe 100 yards (guessing, I didn't get that close), with sensors all along and people watching. And it's not the fence, it's the fact that if you try to cross they'll shoot your ass enough times to make sure you're dead. It really doesn't matter how long it is. The fence isn't what keeps people out. But people here would lose the stomach for gunning down trespassers pretty quick.
Then again, regardless of what some of you clowns say or think, there are a LOT of countries in the world that take their borders seriously. Romania STILL has guys with machine guns at the borders and at the airports. I thought they were going to put me in jail because I had a few AA batteries in my luggage. And don't laugh inside one of the border stations in Jordan - about anything. Just don't. There's a lot of fucking ignorance on both sides of this border argument. Your little tiny corner of the world isn't the way the whole world is.
USA has the least guarded borders in the world and the least consequences to illegal immigration. Yet, we're the most controversial? This shows the level of forces working against this country, imo.
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lefty
:lol Beisbol fans
:lol Trumpball
I've known for a while that Pop was liberal or liberal leaning. He had stayed in his lane before though and wasn't regurgitating a slew of shithead talking points.
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Spurtacular
USA has the least guarded borders in the world and the least consequences to illegal immigration. Yet, we're the most controversial? This shows the level of forces working against this country, imo.
I think building a $21.6 billion dollar concrete wall is pretty controversial in and of itself, without getting into a larger discussion about the motives behind it. It is also the reason why some lawmakers from his own party are balking at the idea.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/16/politi...p-border-wall/
good article about the challenges that come with meeting Trump's vision of the wall
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cd021
I think building a $21.6 billion dollar concrete wall is pretty controversial in and of itself, without getting into a larger discussion about the motives behind it. It is also the reason why some lawmakers from his own party are balking at the idea.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/16/politi...p-border-wall/
good article about the challenges that come with meeting Trump's vision of the wall
"Sources tell CNN that the biggest job in moving forward is convincing the president that a fence is more secure (than a wall)."
VERY FAKE NEWS
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Spurtacular
"Sources tell CNN that the biggest job in moving forward is convincing the president that a fence is more secure (than a wall)."
VERY FAKE NEWS
:lmao CNN pretending that outposts don't exist.
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SupremeGuy
Pop is that dude that's against the Trump wall meanwhile he lives in gated community with security guards. Basically, he's full of shit.
Bingo.
Pop's a good coach made great by luck & a once in a generation basketball player. My guess is that he's also a massive hypocrite. All of his criticism for Trump being misogynistic is bullshit and politically partisan. Bill Clinton put his dick in a young intern's mouth in the OVAL fucking Office and you never hear Pop talk about that or the example it set for our kids. Hillary and her husband worked the political system for power and fortune but you'll never hear him say it. Why? Because he's a lifelong shrill for the Democratic party and a socialist.
Meanwhile, Pop is carrying on an inappropriate relationship with a former coach's wife (who still resides in San Antonio) while his own is recovering from Cancer. I personally don't care what he does and with whom he does it - just don't throw your holier than thou bullshit in my face.
He knows he has his own skeleton's in his closet and that's one reason he doesn't like to talk about himself. He also treats sideline reporters with disdain and is completely disrespectful towards many in the media. How is that for setting an example for others? You don't like doing something that is your responsibility? Act like an asshole because you can't have things your way.
I respect the guy for helping bring multiple Championships to San Antonio but I don't care for the dude or his shtick. It's tired.
** Just a disclaimer - I didn't vote in this year's election in protest to our 2 party system. Yeah, I could have written in a name but that is a waste of time. To think that Donald Trump is POTUS blows my mind. I saw it coming and I'm not totally surprised, I'm just amazed. I know HOW he did it, but it doesn't make it any easier to fathom. His election in my opinion will be the greatest sign to our kids that ANYONE can become POTUS. The man is an egomaniac and an imbecile. I only hope that he surrounds himself with smart people to guide him through the next 4 years. He has the temperament of a child.
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Threads like these remind me who the faggots are. :lmao
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As expected, Poop's racism is left out of this puff piece because he virtue-signals in public for the "correct" political views. If Media had any integrity, they'd ask Mr. "Progressive" the tough questions he needs to answer about how he treats outspoken black players - starting with the Stephen Jackson incident. They'd also ask him why he takes all the credit for his team's success through the racist "system" narrative while undermining the African-American players on his rosters. But that will never happen. Poop's protected because he votes Democrat. We don't have journalists in this country; only activists working for the opposition party.
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Clipper Nation
As expected, Poop's racism is left out of this puff piece because he virtue-signals in public for the "correct" political views. If Media had any integrity, they'd ask Mr. "Progressive" the tough questions he needs to answer about how he treats outspoken black players - starting with the Stephen Jackson incident. They'd also ask him why he takes all the credit for his team's success through the racist "system" narrative while undermining the African-American players on his rosters. But that will never happen. Poop's protected because he votes Democrat. We don't have journalists in this country; only activists working for the opposition party.
That whole Stephen Jackson thing was a ruse to cover up the real reason he was cut. It had nothing to do with what has been reported publicly and more to do with the inner-workings of the locker room and players' personal lives off the court.
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Clipper Nation
As expected, Poop's racism is left out of this puff piece because he virtue-signals in public for the "correct" political views. If Media had any integrity, they'd ask Mr. "Progressive" the tough questions he needs to answer about how he treats outspoken black players - starting with the Stephen Jackson incident. They'd also ask him why he takes all the credit for his team's success through the racist "system" narrative while undermining the African-American players on his rosters. But that will never happen. Poop's protected because he votes Democrat. We don't have journalists in this country; only activists working for the opposition party.
He burned bridges everywhere he went.
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Clipper Nation
As expected, Poop's racism is left out of this puff piece because he virtue-signals in public for the "correct" political views. If Media had any integrity, they'd ask Mr. "Progressive" the tough questions he needs to answer about how he treats outspoken black players - starting with the Stephen Jackson incident. They'd also ask him why he takes all the credit for his team's success through the racist "system" narrative while undermining the African-American players on his rosters. But that will never happen. Poop's protected because he votes Democrat. We don't have journalists in this country; only activists working for the opposition party.
Holy crap. Fucking truth nukes these bitches aren't ready to read.
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dabom
Threads like these remind me who the faggots are. :lmao
STFU, TBH
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tmtcsc
Bingo.
Pop's a good coach made great by luck & a once in a generation basketball player. My guess is that he's also a massive hypocrite. All of his criticism for Trump being misogynistic is bullshit and politically partisan. Bill Clinton put his dick in a young intern's mouth in the OVAL fucking Office and you never hear Pop talk about that or the example it set for our kids. Hillary and her husband worked the political system for power and fortune but you'll never hear him say it. Why? Because he's a lifelong shrill for the Democratic party and a socialist.
Meanwhile, Pop is carrying on an inappropriate relationship with a former coach's wife (who still resides in San Antonio) while his own is recovering from Cancer. I personally don't care what he does and with whom he does it - just don't throw your holier than thou bullshit in my face.
He knows he has his own skeleton's in his closet and that's one reason he doesn't like to talk about himself. He also treats sideline reporters with disdain and is completely disrespectful towards many in the media. How is that for setting an example for others? You don't like doing something that is your responsibility? Act like an asshole because you can't have things your way.
I respect the guy for helping bring multiple Championships to San Antonio but I don't care for the dude or his shtick. It's tired.
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tmtcsc
** Fuck all you retards who don't get it.
Fixed, tbh.
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Originally Posted by
Clipper Nation
As expected, Poop's racism is left out of this puff piece because he virtue-signals in public for the "correct" political views. If Media had any integrity, they'd ask Mr. "Progressive" the tough questions he needs to answer about how he treats outspoken black players - starting with the Stephen Jackson incident. They'd also ask him why he takes all the credit for his team's success through the racist "system" narrative while undermining the African-American players on his rosters. But that will never happen. Poop's protected because he votes Democrat. We don't have journalists in this country; only activists working for the opposition party.
Where does he take all the credit? And other than Stephen Jackson, which he doesnt have to keep if he doesnt feel its good for the team, which BTW hes trying to keep successful for the other players trying to have a successful basketball career, which hes partly responsible for, what other players is he trying to undermine? And whats wrong with "system"? It fucking works. Theres no cheating going on, nobody is being to forced to do anything against their will. The coach is coaching and the players are playing, and it works and no harm is being done. I dont understand.
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Originally Posted by
Clipper Nation
As expected, Poop's racism is left out of this puff piece because he virtue-signals in public for the "correct" political views. If Media had any integrity, they'd ask Mr. "Progressive" the tough questions he needs to answer about how he treats outspoken black players - starting with the Stephen Jackson incident. They'd also ask him why he takes all the credit for his team's success through the racist "system" narrative while undermining the African-American players on his rosters. But that will never happen. Poop's protected because he votes Democrat. We don't have journalists in this country; only activists working for the opposition party.
:wow
The Clippers are going to become my new number two if you keep spilling truth bombs! :wow
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tmtcsc
Bingo.
Pop's a good coach made great by luck & a once in a generation basketball player. My guess is that he's also a massive hypocrite. All of his criticism for Trump being misogynistic is bullshit and politically partisan. Bill Clinton put his dick in a young intern's mouth in the OVAL fucking Office and you never hear Pop talk about that or the example it set for our kids. Hillary and her husband worked the political system for power and fortune but you'll never hear him say it. Why? Because he's a lifelong shrill for the Democratic party and a socialist.
Meanwhile, Pop is carrying on an inappropriate relationship with a former coach's wife (who still resides in San Antonio) while his own is recovering from Cancer. I personally don't care what he does and with whom he does it - just don't throw your holier than thou bullshit in my face.
He knows he has his own skeleton's in his closet and that's one reason he doesn't like to talk about himself. He also treats sideline reporters with disdain and is completely disrespectful towards many in the media. How is that for setting an example for others? You don't like doing something that is your responsibility? Act like an asshole because you can't have things your way.
I respect the guy for helping bring multiple Championships to San Antonio but I don't care for the dude or his shtick. It's tired.
** Just a disclaimer - I didn't vote in this year's election in protest to our 2 party system. Yeah, I could have written in a name but that is a waste of time. To think that Donald Trump is POTUS blows my mind. I saw it coming and I'm not totally surprised, I'm just amazed. I know HOW he did it, but it doesn't make it any easier to fathom. His election in my opinion will be the greatest sign to our kids that ANYONE can become POTUS. The man is an egomaniac and an imbecile. I only hope that he surrounds himself with smart people to guide him through the next 4 years. He has the temperament of a child.
I haven't heard about Poop's marital indiscretions. Do you have a link for me to research this more?
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dabom
Threads like these remind me who the faggots are. :lmao
ClipperNation is, indeed, a faggot.
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Originally Posted by
tmtcsc
Bingo.
Pop's a good coach made great by luck & a once in a generation basketball player. My guess is that he's also a massive hypocrite. All of his criticism for Trump being misogynistic is bullshit and politically partisan. Bill Clinton put his dick in a young intern's mouth in the OVAL fucking Office and you never hear Pop talk about that or the example it set for our kids. Hillary and her husband worked the political system for power and fortune but you'll never hear him say it. Why? Because he's a lifelong shrill for the Democratic party and a socialist.
Meanwhile, Pop is carrying on an inappropriate relationship with a former coach's wife (who still resides in San Antonio) while his own is recovering from Cancer. I personally don't care what he does and with whom he does it - just don't throw your holier than thou bullshit in my face.
He knows he has his own skeleton's in his closet and that's one reason he doesn't like to talk about himself. He also treats sideline reporters with disdain and is completely disrespectful towards many in the media. How is that for setting an example for others? You don't like doing something that is your responsibility? Act like an asshole because you can't have things your way.
I respect the guy for helping bring multiple Championships to San Antonio but I don't care for the dude or his shtick. It's tired.
** Just a disclaimer - I didn't vote in this year's election in protest to our 2 party system. Yeah, I could have written in a name but that is a waste of time. To think that Donald Trump is POTUS blows my mind. I saw it coming and I'm not totally surprised, I'm just amazed. I know HOW he did it, but it doesn't make it any easier to fathom. His election in my opinion will be the greatest sign to our kids that ANYONE can become POTUS. The man is an egomaniac and an imbecile. I only hope that he surrounds himself with smart people to guide him through the next 4 years. He has the temperament of a child.
all partisan and anecdotal. Disclaimer is a pathetic attempt to pretend you're somehow moderate. Entire post is laughable, sorry you took the time to type all of that out and even edit it
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Proxy
all partisan and anecdotal. Disclaimer is a pathetic attempt to pretend you're somehow moderate. Entire post is laughable, sorry you took the time to type all of that out and even edit it
Partisan towards hypocrites? Absolutely. As far as my politics, I'm probably as moderate as one could be. I'm pro-choice, pro-legalization of marijuana (especially Medical Marijuana), pro-military spending, pro-same sex marriage, anti-socialist, pro capitalism, pro-education spending and investing in inner cities...should I go on?
You don't know a fucking thing about me. That whole "pathetic" disclaimer was intended for people just like you. Quick to judge, categorize and label people who don't share your views. Quick to line up in your tidy little category as a liberal and start pointing fingers at who you think are bad people. Sorry to disappoint you cupcake.
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tmtcsc
Partisan towards hypocrites? Absolutely. As far as my politics, I'm probably as moderate as one could be. I'm pro-choice, pro-legalization of marijuana (especially Medical Marijuana), pro-military spending, pro-same sex marriage, anti-socialist, pro capitalism, pro-education spending and investing in inner cities...should I go on?
You don't know a fucking thing about me. That whole "pathetic" disclaimer was intended for people just like you. Quick to judge, categorize and label people who don't share your views. Quick to line up in your tidy little category as a liberal and start pointing fingers at who you think are bad people. Sorry to disappoint you cupcake.
:lol
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Proxy
:lol
I know, Cupcake. I know. Everything is going to be ok. Cuddle up in your safe space, insert thumb in mouth and watch the doomsday clock tick down. :lol
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-RvNOmZ9lss...n-cupcake2.jpg
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tmtcsc
I know, Cupcake. I know. Everything is going to be ok. Cuddle up in your safe space, insert thumb in mouth and watch the doomsday clock tick down. :lol
I like that it's face down in dirt, but this cupcake screams liberal cuck imo
http://0x0800.github.io/2048-CUPCAKES/style/img/4.jpg
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Great read. Love Pops intelligence and moral character.
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itzsoweezee
Pop for Prez. I can't wait to kick that orange faced, fat, infantile moron out of office.
This.
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It's President's Day. You may all send your best wishes to the president.
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dbestpro
It's President's Day. You may all send your best wishes to the president.
Steve Bannon or Putin? Don't want to send my wishes to the wrong mailing address
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TheGreatYacht
Steve Bannon or Putin? Don't want to send my wishes to the wrong mailing address
:lmao
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Originally Posted by
tmtcsc
Bingo.
Pop's a good coach made great by luck & a once in a generation basketball player. My guess is that he's also a massive hypocrite. All of his criticism for Trump being misogynistic is bullshit and politically partisan. Bill Clinton put his dick in a young intern's mouth in the OVAL fucking Office and you never hear Pop talk about that or the example it set for our kids. Hillary and her husband worked the political system for power and fortune but you'll never hear him say it. Why? Because he's a lifelong shrill for the Democratic party and a socialist.
Meanwhile, Pop is carrying on an inappropriate relationship with a former coach's wife (who still resides in San Antonio) while his own is recovering from Cancer. I personally don't care what he does and with whom he does it - just don't throw your holier than thou bullshit in my face.
He knows he has his own skeleton's in his closet and that's one reason he doesn't like to talk about himself. He also treats sideline reporters with disdain and is completely disrespectful towards many in the media. How is that for setting an example for others? You don't like doing something that is your responsibility? Act like an asshole because you can't have things your way.
I respect the guy for helping bring multiple Championships to San Antonio but I don't care for the dude or his shtick. It's tired.
** Just a disclaimer - I didn't vote in this year's election in protest to our 2 party system. Yeah, I could have written in a name but that is a waste of time. To think that Donald Trump is POTUS blows my mind. I saw it coming and I'm not totally surprised, I'm just amazed. I know HOW he did it, but it doesn't make it any easier to fathom. His election in my opinion will be the greatest sign to our kids that ANYONE can become POTUS. The man is an egomaniac and an imbecile. I only hope that he surrounds himself with smart people to guide him through the next 4 years. He has the temperament of a child.
Pop messing around with coach bud or browns wife while his own has cancer? He's an even bigger POS than I thought.
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Gregg Charles Xavier Popovich: Very interesting basketball mind. Don't give two shits about his political takes.
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TheGreatYacht
Steve Bannon or Putin? Don't want to send my wishes to the wrong mailing address
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dabom
:lmao
That's it, issue the obligatory felching. Don't disappoint.
