this is the thread about trading barry

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Originally Posted by whottt

Count me among those that are ready to see Barry traded...Not so much because I don't like his game...just because I am sick of hearing those that don't like his game bitch about him...

Trading him will give them an excellent chance to shut the fuck up, once and for all, and for that reason alone I am for trading him.

The Spurs now have plenty of shot chuckers that have no qualms about hogging the ball or thinking they are superstars as they chuck up a bunch of junk...

Spurs fans consider this stupid when it's Antoine Walker doing it...but the abesence of that type of game by a player on this team draws nothing but endless whining derision...I think they call it a lack of sac...

God save me from anther season of this....

This type of, dumbfuck, game, appeals to a, sadly, large and vocal, dumbass segment of Spursfandom that don't have a true enough IQ for the game, collectively, to fill a gnat's jock strap,...it is the stupid takes of these dumbasses that severely hinder my enjoyment of this board...


So in assessing the situation...


We got plenty of shot chuckers now, one of them just happens to be a very clutch one who also has a similar skill set to Barry, in NVE...so for that reason I am counting the seconds till the trade happens, we've really got nothing to lose, that NVE can't give us, except a player who wanted to be her and helped the team win a title last season. If Finley turns out to be a loser, as I suspect he is, NVE should still be able to offset his suck, and at least the board dumbasses will be criticizing a player I really don't like...

So there's really nothing to lose by trading Barry,...do it...do it now. Please god let it happen...not another season of this shit.

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I agree 100%. I am extremley tired and disgusted of reading how shitty Barry was, and or is. They will get rid of him if they need to, and not before.

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Originally Posted by Kori Ellis

Umm.. maybe because Battle Blogs are over for the year.

The next Battle Blog season begins when NBA season begins.

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Just trying to make a joke, Kori...

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Originally Posted by Ishta

I agree 100%. I am extremley tired and disgusted of reading how shitty Barry was, and or is. They will get rid of him if they need to, and not before.

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And you honestly think that trading Barry will stop those people from complaining?

If its not Barry, it will be something else to complain about...trust me.

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Originally Posted by callo1

And you honestly think that trading Barry will stop those people from complaining?

If its not Barry, it will be something else to complain about...trust me.

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No SHIT:rolleyes ...but Barry has had the FULL treatment

barry brought it on with his subpar play

barry is ready to go this year, he's been here a year now and he's already a champ
he'l be confident, non-hesitant, and deadly

Rasho is still being shopped around i doubt very highly that nazr will leave if we win another championship this year.....oberto isnt the future he's already 30

Brought on by his sub-par play? When? In the Conference finals? The Finals? The game the other night?

Ok, he didn't have a stellar season, and he had a rough adjustment, between new systems, lots of pressure to be the big thing, and competition for minutes with a young guy who knew the system and was getting better. But you know what?

He figured out the system, found his shot and his confidence and once he got past the mental block of playing his old team, was a top contributor.

Sort of like a couple other vets we've picked up, say, Robert Horry, for example.

There is every reason to expect, given scouting reports and preseason thus far, that Barry will only continue his play from the postseason run. This while Finley must adjust to the new system, face his old team, and work on joints that are practically non-existant at this point.

Picking up Finley should be a good thing, particularly since he'll get plenty of rest and be fresher, and also ease up Barry and Bowen. If his shot continues, and Barry's shot continues, then awesome. That's some great shooting options in the arsenal. But I hardly think Brent Barry is simply going to be traded before it is possible to see how a declining player adjusts to a new system with less minutes and different expectations.

good one easjer

do not whine to me that the spurs traded barry


barry is expendable know the spurs have nve and finley

Some of you will never be satisfied.

Some of you will never want him to be traded.

for the record I wanted him over jackson because he could play backup point

however he struggled last season
most admit that.... he brought up trade talk because of his stuggles
NOT A HARD CONCEPT TO GRASP IF you are not sucking his balls

ducks you might just be a idiot... sure.. lets just trade random players who we love here in san antonio just so we can get some dumbass draft pick that you want

Let's trade Barry for Desagagana Diop.

Shouldn't you give him, for the sake of some kind of actually decent argument or real point, say two or three games before declaring him bad and trade fodder? He did poorly in the early part of last season, but was killer by the end.

Shouldn't you, for the sake of a basis in reality, wait to see what NVE and Finley produce, given the record of stars coming to SA only to struggle during their first season because of the dramatic change in minutes/style/system?

Oh, right! You just want to be a drama queen and argue against a player for your team that you've taken some bizarre dislike to. Got it.

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Originally Posted by Kori Ellis

I'm thinking of making a trash forum. Where I can move ridiculous threads but people can still post in them -- I just won't have to look at them.

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I think ducks would be perfect as Moderator. He has plenty of knowledge about that.

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Originally Posted by angel_luv

Did you not see Barry play last night? Looked good to me.

http://www.nba.com/games/20051010/SASMIA/boxscore.html

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Five for nine in 17 minutes with 3>7 from the FT line.(And that's an anomaly since he's ussually much better) with 3 assists. I'll take that line from a backup anytime. :elephant

Seriously lets try to get Desagna Diop.

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Originally Posted by easjer

Shouldn't you give him, for the sake of some kind of actually decent argument or real point, say two or three games before declaring him bad and trade fodder? He did poorly in the early part of last season, but was killer by the end.

Shouldn't you, for the sake of a basis in reality, wait to see what NVE and Finley produce, given the record of stars coming to SA only to struggle during their first season because of the dramatic change in minutes/style/system?

Oh, right! You just want to be a drama queen and argue against a player for your team that you've taken some bizarre dislike to. Got it.

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barry played all season last year



look the spurs need to resign nazr and in order to do that
they need to trade barry for draft picks
if spurs got a high draft pick they could really get someone good.
beings they got tp and manu so late in the draft :elephant

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Originally Posted by ducks

barry played all season last year



look the spurs need to resign nazr and in order to do that
they need to trade barry for draft picks
if spurs got a high draft pick they could really get someone good.
beings they got tp and manu so late in the draft :elephant

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Whether or not Nazr comes back is going to have very little to do with whether or not Barry is here. I can tell you right now with the big man market as full of crazy ass contracts as it is that Nazr is going to be able to command a price so big that it won't matter if the Spurs free up cap room by moving Barry. He's going to the hit the free agency waters at the same time as Big Ben, who is probably going to be able to get some team to at least offer him max money, and Nazr will be able to use that fact to raise his asking price as well. The biggest x-factor in this mix is Oberto. If he can give the Spurs what Nazr gives them at a fraction of the price I don't think the Spurs will have any problem letting him walk. And frankly, I would think its more likely that Oberto will be able to fill in effectively for Nazr than Finley will for Barry.

barry is making like 4 million a year
if they trade him for picks they can use that 4 million to pay nazr

4 million is alot of money unless you happen to be a billionare

The Spurs don't need a high pick - they make pretty good with the 'low' picks they get. And that may be better as it allows them to develop players for the down the road time when Tim Duncan is gone and Manu is not as lightning fast because age has caught up with him (at which point, of course, Bowen, Horry, NVE, Finley and others will be long gone).

As for keeping Nazr, I think it's too early to determine how feasible and how desirable that truly is. He did all right in the playoffs, but he's prone to foul trouble, butterfingers, and inability to convert under the basket, added to shaky defense. Now a full training camp and shot at a season with more experience receiving passes from Manu and Tony and more time with the defensive system may rectify those things, but they may not. And if not, why keep him? Rasho fills the role we need there well enough, and Oberto can seemingly do it waaaaaayyyyy less expensively than Nazr - not to mention a couple of folks in foreign lands waiting for their shots.

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Originally Posted by ducks

barry is making like 4 million a year
if they trade him for picks they can use that 4 million to pay nazr

4 million is alot of money unless you happen to be a billionare

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It is a lot of money, but whether the Spurs have it or not they won't be able to match if some team decides to throw a Dampier sized contract at him. They're going to have to clear out a lot more to keep Nazr unless he basically decides to sign for peanuts. I think if Oberto is looking good enough he'll be gone by the deadline.

4 million a year will most likely not be enough for Nazr. He's now won a championship as a starter, is riding a high, and quality big men are few and far between enough that a mediocre big man commands a higher salary than Barry trades will be able to provide (that's why so many of you hate Rasho, remember?).

Why are we so concerned about locking up a player who we've seen for half a season? We don't even know what to expect out of Nazr right now. He's shown flashes of being a decent center, and he's shown flashes of being Malik Rose plus 4 inches... which is not meant to be a knock on Rose, but if we weren't concerned about keeping him, then why Nazr?