He was still a solidly above average PG in 2014, but god damn did he nosedive in 2015 and beyond.Quote:
Originally Posted by DieHardSpursFan1537
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He was still a solidly above average PG in 2014, but god damn did he nosedive in 2015 and beyond.Quote:
Originally Posted by DieHardSpursFan1537
What about Barkely?Quote:
Originally Posted by bklynspursfan
I disagree. Tony was worthless in the 2014 playoffs and the Spurs still won.Quote:
Originally Posted by sasaint
LMAOOO #LegendQuote:
Originally Posted by FkLA
Porker is unplayable against any playoff team tbh.
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Originally Posted by FkLA
Sad that 16 years later, we're still relying on TP to get us deep in the playoffs.Quote:
Originally Posted by sasaint
The saddest part of all of it is that he still puts up more points than Mills, shoots better than Mills, and puts up more assists than anyone on the team.
It's unfortunate the team is dependent on TP. If Pop must use him then the ball needs the get out of his hands asap. Maybe it's time for KL to point guard the team. Pretty much does anyway. Tony is not effective driving the ball. Used only as a spot up shooter maybe he can help a few minutes a game.
I missed the game unfortunately. Looks like TP & Mills crapped the bed again?
Nop, just TP.Quote:
Originally Posted by DPG21920
Hmm, in looking at the box score, like in the GS game, there was very little production from either one of TP/Mills. Was Mills beasting on defense to make up for the lack of scoring/assists?Quote:
Originally Posted by DAF86
Kind of fucking boxscore are you watching? Mills had 10 pts on 3/5 3pt shooting and +21.Quote:
Originally Posted by DPG21920
He could dribble up the ball and get the team on its sets just fine too, tbh.
Mills had 10 points and 2 assists.Quote:
Originally Posted by DAF86
TP had 8 points and 2 asssits.
Ok Mills shot 3-6 but he's supposed to be the scoring punch and better player and ultimately had 2 more points and the same measley 2 assists? Did he play great defense or something to make up for only outscoring terrible Tony by 2 points?
Then last game vs GS, Mills shot 1-4 with only 6 points 0 assists and 2 turnovers. The TP/Mills tandem hasn't been playing well against good teams the past two games from what I'm seeing.
Why are you arguing something you didn't watch?Quote:
Originally Posted by DPG21920
10 pts on 3/6 shooting (most importantly, 3 3pointers made) what more do you want from your backup PG?
Offense ran much better with Mills in there 'cause OKC respected his shooting, there was more spacing and the ball moved much better. Mills provided exactly what he needs to provide, I would love for Patty to score 10 pts with 3 3 pointers made in everygame from here on out, tbh.
Interesting. You would love for someone who is supposedly really good to score 2 more points than someone who is supposedly the worst PG in the league? That's interesting.Quote:
Originally Posted by DAF86
Also interesting how you cite +/- but vs GS "TP is unplayable" with his -7, but Mills with his -7 and terrible box score is just fine?
Interesting.
I want to believe you are trolling 'cause if not the character ate you alive son. You shouldn't need to watch the game to realize how 10pts on 3/6 shooting is much better than 8pts on 4-11 shooting.Quote:
Originally Posted by DPG21920
Only reason Patty scored just 2 more pts than Tony is 'cause he took 5 less shots, mainly because OKC wasn't leaving him all alone like they did with Tony.
Patty scored 10 pts and took only 6 shots 'cause he didn't need to shoot more, he played his role, hit his shots, gave his teammates room to operate and allowed for the offense to run smoothly.
Sure, but like you said he's a back up PG. So he was playing vs back ups a lot. Should score more than the worst PG having to face an MVP PG like Westbrook.Quote:
Originally Posted by DAF86
Also, you ignored the +/- argument. So is TP not playable vs GS or OKC and Mills is playable vs OKC and not GS?
What part of "he didn't score more 'cause he didn't need to" you didn't get? He took the shots he needed to take and did a pretty damn good job at hitting those. You sound like kobefan asking for raw scoring totals.Quote:
Originally Posted by DPG21920
The one that needed to score more was TP 'cause OKC dared him to beat them and he could only muster 8 pts on 11 shots.
I never mentioned +/- on my "Tony is unplayable against GS" thread. I only talked about the game. Tony can't guard anybody on the Warriors and he doesn't provide anything on O either. Patty can't defend anybody on GS either, but he can at least hit a couple of threes on the other end to keep up with GS.
Next is "TP is unplayable against Utah"
I dont know what game are you talking about, Patty was great last night had +21 and the ball movement was all around, when TP played he was gassed and dribbling to deflate the ball, made some horrible decisions and in 2 consecutive plays he cost us 4 points.Quote:
Originally Posted by DPG21920
You can make 28 points like Kawhi moving the ball, or you can make 32 points ala Harden/Westbrook playing iso monkeyball, there is a difference.
dpg trying to spin a game he didn't watch :lol
Parker's not the one who averaged 4/2 on 42% last year in the playoffs against OKC. That was our other "point guard."
Pathetic. :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by gambit1990