Why can't Enrique accept his role player status?

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Originally Posted by 140

"...hopefully if I keep copying and pasting this one post that proves nothing people will start taking it seriously!"

:lol

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Not even Brazil reading that. :lol

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Originally Posted by midnightpulp

FWIW, there's no case there either. I blew up that helmet crew myth the other day. Patty is so good with the bench, that starting him would be a crime. Some reading:

Time to blow you up, again.

Seriously, do you and your lover Gambit ever think anything through? So your cute start House fantasy comes true AND THEN WHAT? What do you with Parker? I've asked this question before and I get *crickets*.

"He can come off the bench for 15 minutes."

House playing 33 min per against Western Conference playoff team starting PGs. :lmao

House against Houston this season: 24.5mpg, 8.5ppg, 40%FG, 4.75apg.

Against Golden State (with Curry): 20.5mpg, 8.5ppg, 38%FG, 2.5apg.

Against the Clippers: 21mpg, 7ppg, 32%FG, 2.3apg.

Against OKC: 21mpg, 7.6ppg, 41%FG, 1.0apg.

And this is primarily against those teams' backups

"I bet Porker doesn't do much better."

Parker plays the most of his minutes against the starters. But what you fail to comprehend is that even if House is, say, 20% better as the starting PG over a large sample size, Tony would probably be 100% worse off the bench. Let's look at some numbers.

2 man lineups (Tony plus one of the main bench players)

with Gasol: +7.8net

with Lee: +1.5net

with Manu: +5.8net

with Fathead: +0.6net

with Simmons: -1.1net

Avg net with all bench players: +2.92

Now Patty:

with Gasol: +9.3

with Lee: +15.7

with Manu: +12.3

with Fathead: +17.7

with Simmons: +15.9

Avg: +14.18

And most importantly, Patty's net ratings were achieved over a LARGE sample size, unlike his starting lineup net rating, achieved over 86 min and 47 min respectively. It's fuckin' nothing. So why the fuck do you want to remove a player who works obscenely well with ALL bench players to the tune of a 14.18net rating and replace him with a player that works with those same players about 11 points worse in net rating?

Here's even more simple math for you.

We KNOW Parker with the current starters is good enough for an average 8.4 net since we have a decent sample size. We KNOW House works at an average 14 net with the main bench players because we have a huge sample size. Thus, 8.4+14.18=22.58 net rating for the rotation overall.

Here's what your retarded plan looks like: House with the current starters (a 47 minute sample size ): 14.3 net. Parker with the main bench players: 2.9 net, = 17.2 net rating for that rotation overall.

So if we employ the "start House" idea, we risk the Spurs rotation overall dropping over 5 net rating points. And there's is ZERO evidence to the contrary that it would "work."

Shut it fuckin' down, indeed. Think next time you come at me. Goes for the other helmet, too.

tl;dr Starting Patty risks a -5 net rating drop

It was cute how thought you "got me" though. Bet you celebrated with gambit last night over some cocktails and heavy petting.

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don't get me wrong I'm with you on dat one, the rotation as it is today is the best we can have, Patty and Parker are having comparable minutes, Patty is preferred late in the games for his 3 pts shooting and the fact he opens the floor for Kawhi and play mostly with second units where he fits with Manu doing the ball handling job.

Parker is also important to get LMA going on the P&R, no LMA involved = no chance. Kawhi cannot do all by himself. So yeah that configuration is our best shot. Now if someone has a different opinion and argue otherwise that's fine now the helmet crew agenda hate does not worth my time... :cry but but Parker took a shot, must be a hero baller :cry

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Originally Posted by dabom

Not even Brazil reading that. :lol

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I read it the first time, now you can bet 140 aka Lefty did not that would mean they can actually read and understand

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Originally Posted by Brazil

I read it the first time, now you can bet 140 aka Lefty did not that would mean they can actually read and understand

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140 is a top 3 new poster this season. Not lefty. You're mistaking my friend. :lol

with the way some people on here make it seem... you'd think tony was averaging 7 assists :lol

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Originally Posted by midnightpulp

Play 2:

http://oi66.tinypic.com/28jv6zb.jpg

Tony had a step and should've driven straight ahead for a layup. He didn't "go into 3 defenders" as Gasol was clearly beat and the other play out of position. Tony did FUCK UP though by trying a cute spin move instead of just keeping it simple. Now he brought Fat Gasol back into the play:

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How does Tony "had a step" apply here?
Defender is dead even with him. Actually defender is a half step ahead of Porker.

I pointed this all out in real time Mid. Certain guys just don't get it.

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Originally Posted by DPG21920

I pointed this all out in real time Mid. Certain guys just don't get it.

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You also point out to imaginary full court pressures on Patty, tbh.

It's pretty simple.

:pop: Tony, I'm going to give the better players more time so you'll have to sit on the bench more.

Tony: you're going to pay me $15,000,000 to eat waffles and watch NBA games?

:pop: fuck

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Originally Posted by dabom

140 is a top 3 new poster this season. Not lefty. You're mistaking my friend. :lol

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I know its ST but he is not new brah

:pop: Hey Tony...I'm going to rest you and play some of the more effective players.

Tony: Matt gave me some picture you might want to see.

:pop: Fuck

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Originally Posted by SpursforSix

:pop: Hey Tony...I'm going to rest you and play some of the more effective players.

Tony: Matt gave me some picture you might want to see.

:pop: Fuck

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:lol

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Originally Posted by midnightpulp

You dumb?

Tell me where the "options" are here?

House? No passing lane.

Kawhi? No passing lane.

Pau? Yeah, let's give him the ball while's he's manned up and see if he can dribble out of it.

Dribble over and pass it to Kawhi? Means Kawhi is taking a contested 26 footer or a dribble-stop contested midrange shot.

http://oi64.tinypic.com/jfk8yw.jpg

If Kawhi wanted the shot here, he should've done something earlier in the fuckin' clock. But I get it, you think this is NBA2K.

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How about calling for a pick and roll with Gasol? Maybe it opens up shit for someone else.

Lol at continuing to act like a scrub going 1-on-1 was some last resort. What next, Barnes and Mbah a Moute going 1-on-1 is ok too? He did it not once but three times in the final 3:30 too.

:pop: Hey Tony...I'm not going to play you much anymore.

Tony: Hey Pop...I'm the Phoenxi

:pop: O yeah...

Tony: Phoenix Rising???

:pop: Yeah...I guess...Phoenix Rising.

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Originally Posted by Brazil

OP is a fucking moron when topic is Parker tbh.. not sure why people bother

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How about the 4th Qtr of the 2014 title clinching game though?

Greatest all-time display of team basketball. Spurs have dominated the Heatles like no other Finals team has been dominated. They're dominating them in that Game 5 with team basketball yet again, despite Enrique starting off like 0-12. Yet he thinks it's appropriate to culminate such a historic and beautiful display of basketball by making it the Enrique show. Just lol at denying the fact that the guy loves being the hero. Being the man is what he lives for, winning is just an added bonus.

Look at his expression on the bench when he's having a bad game and when he's getting his, regardless of the score. It's night and day.

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Originally Posted by FkLA

Look at his expression on the bench when he's having a bad game and when he's getting his, regardless of the score. It's night and day.

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Yeah...it's like his mind is somewhere else

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/KZXp3fCQSLw/hqdefault.jpg

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Originally Posted by DAF86

You also point out to imaginary full court pressures on Patty, tbh.

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Nah - even an unbiased poster re-watched the game and confirmed Mills was pressured.

tp's unpredictability/unreliability will continue to hurt the spurs in the playoffs.

he had 7 assists last night... think you can count on that? no, there's been a ton of games this season where he's only had 2 or 3.

some night he'll differ and only take a handful of shots... other times he'll have a lot of FGAs. and no, it isn't adjusting to what the defense is giving him.

Why is it so hard for some posters to admit that Parker likes to play hero ball every now and then? He's done it his entire career.

Mills hasn't been a beacon of consistency in the playoffs (especially vs starters). He was awful vs GS (like TP) and not great against the Grizz (where TP was very solid). TP was also solid vs the Jazz where Mills sat out.

It's good to see TP playing well towards the end in consecutive games vs playoff teams. It's concerning that Mills struggles vs GS and struggled vs MEM when matched up vs Conley. Hopefully they both play well.

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Originally Posted by RD2191

Why is it so hard for some posters to admit that Parker likes to play hero ball every now and then? He's done it his entire career.

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It's not hard to admit he's done it. But why is it hard for you you reconcile that what happened last night, as I explained and the Mid showed you, that last night was not that?

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Originally Posted by midnightpulp

Tony has no passing lanes here. All men are marked. So you can't just expect to "give it up" in this situation. Where's he going to pass it to? The result was a clear out iso (which the other players were on board with since they didn't move from their spot up positions through the entire sequence) and Tony got a good look out of it:

http://oi67.tinypic.com/a4sy2p.jpg

And the Spurs are going to NEED Tony creating these type of shots down the stretch in the playoffs. It just can't be Kawhi-all-the-time during the last 5 minutes of the 4th. And rewatching the last 5 minutes, Tony gave the ball up pretty much every time down. So he did his "job" more than he didn't do it and only attacked when there was a breakdown. But again, I do not like his fancy spin move, which is really the only bad play he made in the last half of the 4th quarter.

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Look how wide open Kwa is. Still 5 seconds left on the shot clock.
A real 1st rate point guard here would have faked the layup and tossed to a wide open Kwa. Who could then spot up for a trey or -look at all the room to drive it to the rack.

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Originally Posted by DPG21920

Nah - even an unbiased poster re-watched the game and confirmed Mills was pressured.

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Can you point out to all the times Patty got pressured this season, son? 'Cause you act like he should be getting pressured every game "guaranteed" and I just don't see it, tbh.

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Originally Posted by DAF86

Can you point out to all the times Patty got pressured this season, son? 'Cause you act like he should be getting pressured every game "guaranteed" and I just don't see it, tbh.

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That is not what I said - at least not in context. I said, in the playoffs, teams will pressure him and we have seen is lack of a handle result in pressure TO's when other teams don't bother to do that to TP.