Chris Paul does not play winning basketball

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Originally Posted by dabom

I would take CP3 over porker in a heartbeat. :lol

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These delusionals. Pop requesting DMurray to study CP3 but yeah, he does not play winning basketball. GTFO tbh :lol

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Originally Posted by TheDoctor

These delusionals. Pop requesting DMurray to study CP3 but yeah, he does not play winning basketball. GTFO tbh :lol

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Never knew CP3 ever played with a Duncan, Manu type player/players. :lmao

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Originally Posted by coachmac87

Signing Paul would improve LMA play significantly IMO..he'd also help Green and our starting rolling center. CP3 is the master of setting up others with great looks...he's exactly the player Pop is trying to get Tony to do but just can't cause he's a scoring guard with tunnel vision.

Spurs and CP3 need each other tbh

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Dedmon would average 12 ppg on lobs alone.

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Originally Posted by dabom

Never knew CP3 ever played with a Duncan, Manu type player/players. :lmao

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LMAO exactly.

CP3 instead of Parker during the BIG3 era? Damn.

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Originally Posted by TheDoctor

LMAO exactly.

CP3 instead of Parker during the BIG3 era? Damn.

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:wow

Only one team wins every year....

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Originally Posted by cd98

My point isn't that he doesn't have a talented team, it's that there have always been more talented teams out west. Only 5 teams out West have made it to the finals in the last what 18 years. He's never been on the consensus number one team. As for averaging 10 assists, he could've easily done it in the Robinson/Duncan era. Now, we only have one ball dominant player, and that's Kawhi. No, it's not Parker. But even Kawhi could be a superior off the ball scorer. He and Paul would be great together, but I'm sure the Spurs wouldn't let Paul run the team like he does the Clippers, so naturally his assist numbers would go down.

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Unless it's Westbrook they don't award an assist for throwing the ball to the center in the post.

Also, imo, Kawhi doesn't need a ball dominant PG at all, he needs to run the PnR more.

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Originally Posted by Proxy

Only one team wins every year....

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And CP3 is never on that team.

Tony Romo of the NBA tbh.

He (and Kobe) would have probably won a title if that trade hadn't been vetoed

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Originally Posted by BG_Spurs_Fan

Unless it's Westbrook they don't award an assist for throwing the ball to the center in the post.

Also, imo, Kawhi doesn't need a ball dominant PG at all, he needs to run the PnR more.

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It's not just the alley oop, it's that during the Robinson era and the beginning of the Duncan era, the Spurs system used a ball dominant point guard. Now it is less so. Chris Paul is great at everything a point guard does, from directing the team, to smart plays, to passing, to shooting, and to defending. He would instantly improve any team he was on, and if he was on the Spurs without them needing to gut the roster, they would be the best team in the NBA. But he would cost too much to add at his age. He's have two good years and then be overpaid compared to his production.

He would make Kawhi even better. Kawhi is a good off the ball player and when Kawhi ISOs, Paul is a good shooter if his man cheats to help. If you swapped Parker for Paul, I'd say Spurs were better than GSW on paper.

Ive been watching Chris Paul lately

and sometimes I wonder, if he really is that good, why no rings??

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Originally Posted by cd98

It's not just the alley oop, it's that during the Robinson era and the beginning of the Duncan era, the Spurs system used a ball dominant point guard. Now it is less so. Chris Paul is great at everything a point guard does, from directing the team, to smart plays, to passing, to shooting, and to defending. He would instantly improve any team he was on, and if he was on the Spurs without them needing to gut the roster, they would be the best team in the NBA. But he would cost too much to add at his age. He's have two good years and then be overpaid compared to his production.

He would make Kawhi even better. Kawhi is a good off the ball player and when Kawhi ISOs, Paul is a good shooter if his man cheats to help. If you swapped Parker for Paul, I'd say Spurs were better than GSW on paper.

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Agree, but

will he take less money to come to us?

Probably easier to play winning basketball with Tim Duncan as opposed to Tyson Chandler or DeAndre Jordan.

CP3 didn't get to play with Duncan Manu and to be coached by Pop

We would have 7 peated with CP3 instead of that POS Porker

Plus, CP3 was a Duncan fan wheb he was a kid

Best PG of the past two decades. A lot of morons posting in this thread.

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Originally Posted by cutewizard

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Agree, but

will he take less money to come to us?

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No, he won't. He won't be a Spur, but if he was over the next two years with our core, we'd be awesome.

yeah that kind of fanaticism turns me off, if CP3 or LBJ wanted to come to the Spurs (for less than the max) I would be all for it. They have the skills any team would want and if they wanted to come to the Spurs for less than the max it would prove that winning is the most important thing to them (and that they are over themselves). Anyone that would say they didn't want them is either lying or lacking in basketball IQ.

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Originally Posted by DarrinS

Probably easier to play winning basketball with Tim Duncan as opposed to Tyson Chandler or DeAndre Jordan.

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Chandler took a wet shit on Duncan in 2008, and he was a key cog in a championship team in Dallas a few years later. Choke-P is just a career loser.

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Originally Posted by DarrinS

Probably easier to play winning basketball with Tim Duncan as opposed to Tyson Chandler or DeAndre Jordan.

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I absolutely agree, but people keep saying winning basketball. It's funny because he wins every year. The Clippers are in the playoffs every year. Paul is a playoff fixture since he came into the league. If you are talking about championships, well then I think the TD versus Tyson Chandler and D. Jordan come into play. He's never been a part of the best team. Few superstars have. Kawhi was part of a great team in 2014. If he never wins another title but posts numbers like he has, it doesn't mean he doesn't playing winning basketball (the dude is a main player on 2 60 win teams), it means he played in an era with teams that were better.

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Originally Posted by $pursDynasty

yeah that kind of fanaticism turns me off, if CP3 or LBJ wanted to come to the Spurs (for less than the max) I would be all for it. They have the skills any team would want and if they wanted to come to the Spurs for less than the max it would prove that winning is the most important thing to them (and that they are over themselves). Anyone that would say they didn't want them is either lying or lacking in basketball IQ.

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i would love that to happen, but I'd be a hypocrite to say at 32 I'd turn down the max to play for the Spurs. I mean, if he signed the max to play for the Kings, maybe you could say it's just for the money. But if he resigns with the Clippers for the max, I can't fault him bc I would do the same. I don't think a player has to give up a third of his value to "get over himself."

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Originally Posted by Clipper Nation

Chandler took a wet shit on Duncan in 2008, and he was a key cog in a championship team in Dallas a few years later. Choke-P is just a career loser.

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I guess you'll need to define "career loser." If it means a championship or deep run, well that's 98% of NBA players. Seems like a high standard. But that 2008 claim is a poor answer. First, I hardly think Chandler was better than Duncan in 2008, but the point is playing with Duncan for several years is better than playing Chandler, which is indisputable.

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Originally Posted by cd98

i would love that to happen, but I'd be a hypocrite to say at 32 I'd turn down the max to play for the Spurs. I mean, if he signed the max to play for the Kings, maybe you could say it's just for the money. But if he resigns with the Clippers for the max, I can't fault him bc I would do the same. I don't think a player has to give up a third of his value to "get over himself."

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true just wishful thinking on my part, but players say all the time that the ring is the most important thing but very rarely do they put their money where their mouth is. When they do they get scornfully laughed at (David West, Keven Durant) I am not saying play for the minimum but there is no need for the max when most get paid more for endorsements than for actual play. As much as I would love a PG rotation of CP3, MVParker and Dijon, I am not sure if CP's love of all the endorsements that being in LA provides is greater than his desire for a ring. Ideal scenario pull a Lebron come visit the Spurs for 2-3 years get a ring (or 3) then go back to LA a champion promising "to bring one to the Clips".

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Originally Posted by lefty

CP3 didn't get to play with Duncan Manu and to be coached by Pop

We would have 7 peated with CP3 instead of that POS Porker

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We offered Parker for Paul years ago. Fun fact.

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Originally Posted by $pursDynasty

true just wishful thinking on my part, but players say all the time that the ring is the most important thing but very rarely do they put their money where their mouth is. When they do they get scornfully laughed at (David West, Keven Durant) I am not saying play for the minimum but there is no need for the max when most get paid more for endorsements than for actual play. As much as I would love a PG rotation of CP3, MVParker and Dijon, I am not sure if CP's love of all the endorsements that being in LA provides is greater than his desire for a ring. Ideal scenario pull a Lebron come visit the Spurs for 2-3 years get a ring (or 3) then go back to LA a champion promising "to bring one to the Clips".

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Lebron left in is prime.And although Paul is probably right now in his prime, he is also on the decline. And for PG’s, that can go quick, eg Parker. So Lebron could actually come back the Cleveland after 4 years and still be in his prime basketball skill wise.