What's the SG plan over the summer, tbh...?

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04-20-2017
dabom

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Originally Posted by gambit1990

didn't jackson recently say porzingis isn't untouchable? :lol

we should take advantage of that fool.

Porker can satisfy his washed up pg fetish now that rose is injured. :lol
04-20-2017
MaNu4Tres

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Originally Posted by dabom

Most 2way players are max players, and no, danny is not a 2way player. :lol Chinook

Nah, not all.

Danny is a one of the best and very good 3&D guy ( he's a 2 way player). Those are the type of players you need because they're not as saturated as shooters who have liabilities on the defensive end..

I'd rather spend 10-14 mil for another Danny than pay Mills. You need wings that can defend in the modern NBA. The Warriors aren't going anywhere the next 5 years, Spurs need another quality wing that can play both ends to help out Danny and Kawhi.

Kyle and Simmons are not the answers. Maybe Hanga is.
04-20-2017
DPG21920

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Put it this way: If Mills were anywhere close to as good as Danny SA would be pretty close to a favorite to win it all.
04-20-2017
dabom

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Patty is already a better player for fucksake. :lmao

Danny is still getting subbed out for manu to close out games. 40 year old fucking manu. :lmao
04-20-2017
MaNu4Tres

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Originally Posted by dabom

Patty is already a better player for fucksake. :lmao

Danny is still getting subbed out for manu to close out games. 40 year old fucking manu. :lmao

You're trolling or you're an idiot. I know you're not an idiot, so I guess its just your trolling emoji happy shtick.
04-20-2017
dabom

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You're trolling or you're an idiot. I know you're not an idiot, so I guess its just your trolling emoji happy shtick.

Thanks for the show of confidence. :lol

And I never troll.
04-20-2017
DPG21920

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^ he's a great guy, don't get me wrong, but dont just assume he's not a dummy
04-20-2017
tbdog

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We need shooters, but we also need someone to break down the defense. Parker can't get in the lane if his mid range isn't falling.
04-20-2017
UNT Eagles 2016

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Originally Posted by tbdog

We need shooters, but we also need someone to break down the defense. Parker can't get in the lane if his mid range isn't falling.

Leonard
04-20-2017
tbdog

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Leonard

Parker in his prime, broke down the defence better than Leonard has ever done, despite Leonard right now is better than Parker ever was. There is just something about smaller and faster players getting into the lane.
04-20-2017
TheGreatYacht

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Fatty Mills is on a one way trip to Philly tbh :lol him and that white American PG will battle for the starting spot lmfao
04-20-2017
SAGirl

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Originally Posted by GSH

Did you get to see Bertans playing with Bourousis? The two of them were very good together. I was REALLY hoping the Spurs would be able to bring him over along with Bertans this season. I think he has a contract that will basically go to the end of his career, IIRC.

I've got my doubts about Hanga ever coming over. It's just a feeling from some comments over time. And I've never seen any comments from him about wanting to prove himself in the NBA, or anything like that. If he does come over, I will be surprised.

Did you see the comment Hanga made above in the link I posted? I wasn't convinced he was coming over either bc he had never made an aggressive push to get to the NBA, I agree... but he has now said that it's time and that he's coming over... very explicit.

It's possible he has been encouraged to come over bc the Spurs need bodies and are pushing him to join the team. I think before, the Spurs were content with him playing in Europe. Considering he wasn't ever a dangerous 3 pt shooter I think Spurs were not super hot on bringing him to play over anybody that they had at the time. However, the situation has changed bc right now, they need bodies with Manu possibly retiring and frankly he might not be that different from this seasons' Simmons, who also can't shoot (and they may not reup).

For Bourousis, I only saw some highlights from the games. They were both impressive. Bourousis did make a career choice to stay in Europe.
04-20-2017
TD 21

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Originally Posted by MaNu4Tres

You do need shooters, but shooters are a dime a dozen and the skill is getting better and better across the board at every position. What is more valuable is getting two-way players, players who can shoot but that aren't a liability defensively.

Shooting can be expendable. It was for Roger Mason, it was for Gary Neal, and it can be for Patty.

If I'm the Spurs, I preserve the 11-15 mil going to Patty, and use it the following off-season. If I'm spending 10+ mil on a player, that player better be a two- way player.

Not all shooters are created equal. Mills has a lightning quick release and is proficient at making them off the dribble. That's rare and therefore not easily replaceable.

I get all your reasons for not wanting to re-sign him except for the notion of preserving money. If something significant arises in a year and he's as valuable a commodity as many think, then they should have no trouble salary dumping him, a la Splitter and Diaw.
04-20-2017
DPG21920

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Originally Posted by TD 21

Not all shooters are created equal. Mills has a lightning quick release and is proficient at making them off the dribble. That's rare and therefore not easily replaceable.

I get all your reasons for not wanting to re-sign him except for the notion of preserving money. If something significant arises in a year and he's as valuable a commodity as many think, then they should have no trouble salary dumping him, a la Splitter and Diaw.

Proficient at scoring off the dribble? Dude is assisted on nearly 80%! Of his shots.
04-20-2017
UZER

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Is this where the brilliant front office waste three years by keeping Murray deep on the bench to prevent his stock from rising too high so we don't lose him? :lol
04-20-2017
TD 21

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Originally Posted by DPG21920

Proficient at scoring off the dribble? Dude is assisted on nearly 80%! Of his shots.

He essentially plays shooting guard or at least combo guard on offense, but he's still one of the better off the dribble three-point shooters in the league.
04-20-2017
Seventyniner

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Proficient at scoring off the dribble? Dude is assisted on nearly 80%! Of his shots.

It took a while but I finally found the numbers for pull-up shooting on NBA.com.

http://stats.nba.com/players/shots-g...mID=1610612759

Parker is much better on pull-up twos than Mills (46.1% vs 38.0%), while Mills is very good on pull-up threes (42.6%); Parker doesn't shoot pull-up threes (6 attempts all season).

Not sure how to take drives into account, but Mills doesn't seem to create layups off of penetration, instead he gets many of those off of cuts.
04-20-2017
DPG21920

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Originally Posted by Seventyniner

It took a while but I finally found the numbers for pull-up shooting on NBA.com.

http://stats.nba.com/players/shots-g...mID=1610612759

Parker is much better on pull-up twos than Mills (46.1% vs 38.0%), while Mills is very good on pull-up threes (42.6%); Parker doesn't shoot pull-up threes (6 attempts all season).

Not sure how to take drives into account, but Mills doesn't seem to create layups off of penetration, instead he gets many of those off of cuts.

Exactly. Mills only scores in the paint when assisted. He doesn't have the handle to get into the paint off the dribble and finish.

Mills is just not proficient at creating for himself. TP is. Mills is assisted on most of his scores and even though his pull up 3PT% is solid, it's so few attempts per game, that it's not a big part of what he does. TP take a lot of pull up twos and does decent at them. That is TP's game.

Also gets into the paint a lot more than Mills even at his advanced age playing against starters.
04-21-2017
MaNu4Tres

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Originally Posted by TD 21

He essentially plays shooting guard or at least combo guard on offense, but he's still one of the better off the dribble three-point shooters in the league.

There will never be enough volume attached to that one aspect for it to be a significant factor. You're pin-pointing one very small part of his game, that is usually taken away in the playoffs in the halfcourt. The only times he can really get that shot off in the playoffs is in transition when the defense is out numbered or caught on their heels.

As DPG noted, he takes most of his attempts spotting up. Spot up shooting in the NBA is expendable, especially in the modern NBA when more players from every position are getting better and better at shooting. Spurs have proven how expendable one dimensional shooters are from Roger Mason, to Gary Neal and to now potentially Patty Mills.
04-21-2017
duncan2k5

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Resign Simmons...get Danny, kyle and many all the way the f*co out of here...then shop for a starter
04-21-2017
duncan2k5

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Exactly. Mills only scores in the paint when assisted. He doesn't have the handle to get into the paint off the dribble and finish.

Mills is just not proficient at creating for himself. TP is. Mills is assisted on most of his scores and even though his pull up 3PT% is solid, it's so few attempts per game, that it's not a big part of what he does. TP take a lot of pull up twos and does decent at them. That is TP's game.

Also gets into the paint a lot more than Mills even at his advanced age playing against starters.

Parley struggles to get into the paint ..what are u talking about? We are OVER parker...I'd love for him to retire so Pop is forced to play Murray...Murray WILL be a star in this league, and a lot of ppl are too stupid to realize...I've been saying the entire season parker will have a few good playoff games, then completely bottom out...now look what happened...and you guys STILL want him back? We have LOW fucking standards for players nowadays..especially when ppl are saying Kyle FUCKING Anderson had a good game last night...SMFH!!!
04-21-2017
DPG21920

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Parley struggles to get into the paint ..what are u talking about? We are OVER parker...I'd love for him to retire so Pop is forced to play Murray...Murray WILL be a star in this league, and a lot of ppl are too stupid to realize...I've been saying the entire season parker will have a few good playoff games, then completely bottom out...now look what happened...and you guys STILL want him back? We have LOW fucking standards for players nowadays..especially when ppl are saying Kyle FUCKING Anderson had a good game last night...SMFH!!!

You also didn't know Murray was hurt so I take what you say only half serious.
03-11-2018
SAGirl

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Originally Posted by ElNono

We have Danny under contract and we don't know if Manu is retiring or coming back (give or take $10m).

Does Simmons stick around? Pay Mills to play the 2? Give Jimmer another shot?

50 millions.
Not sure if you were kidding with that, but turned out Nostradamus... :depressed
03-11-2018
r0drig0lac

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simmons could attack in the pnr, elite first step and get free throws, the fact that he preferred to go somewhere else says a lot about the "spurs culture"
03-11-2018
palangi

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Move Leonard to the 2. Bring up Blossomgame. Let gay and Blossomgame play the 3.

Leonard and gay start
Green and Blossomgame off the bench

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