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Obviously Kobe is the better offensive player and more cluch. But thats about it. Kawhi is superior to Kobe in every single other category. Defense, rebounding, blocking, defense, team chemistry, leadership, etc, etc, etc
IMO Kawhi is a hybrid between Pippen and Jordan. Kobe a Jordan imitation. A very good one but imitation nontheless.
Ill take Kawhi every day over Kobe. IMO
Kawhi hasn't missed the playoffs in his prime, so gotta go with him for now. Just by default, though.
Kawhi, and homeboy ain't even in his prime yet.
Trick question. They're interchangeable.
Kobe was scary when Lakers were down 20. He could be unstoppable on offense. That said Kawhi is a more efficient scorer and a better defender. But you have to get late 30s Kobe out of your head. In his 20s, he was a monster.
I love Kawhi but man some of y'all are forgetting how kobe raped us repeatedly in the early 2000s
Kirby's clutch stats :lol
Dont forget about the ugly white girl he raped too..Quote:
Originally Posted by Leetonidas
I know of one person that won't forget.Quote:
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too soon, I won't believe that the KingSlayer has hit his peak until his numbers start to decline, whose to say he doesn't have a lot higher to go?
Hard to say as we don't know if kawhi has peaked. Based on his age and ridiculous trajectory thus far, he almost certainly hasn't. Fair or unfair, kawhi won't enter that discussion unless he gets post-duncan rings. I know he was (deservedly) finals mvp in 2014, but that was still timmys team. Iirc throughout the postseason he was the 3rd/4th option
I'll take Kawhi as well. He's more consistent and as of yet no drama. Just when I was starting to think that Kobe was creeping up on MJ he has an atrocious performance in that game 7 vs Boston. If I remember correctly his Orlando Finals wasn't that clutch either. I remember some missed free throws and we're always killing Kawhi for that so we definitely can't let Kobe off the hook.
Can not compute.
Kawhi is not even in his final form yet.
kawhi is in his prime?
Kobe was NOT more clutch, why the hell do you think that?
Kawhi would shut that nigglet down and forcibly take his lunch money.
To those saying he's not there yet, I would say Kawhi has just entered his early prime, but he hasn't peaked yet. But still, he's already better than Kobe ever was.
Take what they did at their same ages.
For this year, sure. But age 20-22 Kawhi was the 3rd option on offense at best, he didn't break 20% USG until his 4th season. Kobe, by contrast, never had a USG% below 24.7 (rookie year) and by age 22 he was in the low 30s (Kawhi this year is 31.1%) for the rest of his career.Quote:
Originally Posted by cd98
I don't think Kawhi has any chance of matching Kobe's career numbers (shocker!), but he has the capability to match Kobe's volume (when the Lakers were good, excluding those 35+% USG Kobe lottery years) and match or exceed Kobe's efficiency. And Kawhi is a better defender than Kobe ever was, so it's quite possible that late 20s Kawhi can be better than Kobe at that age.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/...leonaka01.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/...bryanko01.html
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Originally Posted by LittleCriminal
People is blind on hate. Kobe is a rapist faggot, but in his prime was a beast. Also Kawhi hasn't reached his prime yet. We must wait and see.
Why is wveryone so upset at the question?
Its a fair question tbqh. Sure Kawhi might not be at his absolute prime but he is very very close. He matured early thanks to Duncan, Pop and Parker
And Kobe was damn clutch
But I agree young Kobe was far inferior to Kawhi. In maturirty especially
Can u imagine the tandem of Shaq+Kawhi???
10 rings minimum
Does Kawhi even get jealous of Shaq? :lol
the answer is obvious
hahahahahahahha
hahahahahaha
wait wait wait wait
a guy who led a team to 2 titles and was co-leader for 3 more vs. a player who hasnt led a team past the 2nd round and got shut down by Matt Barnes and Robertson on OKC?? LMFAO
Kobe is the 2nd best player ever and undisputed best of his generation according to most experts that played the game and coached it
Leonard can barely dribble, cant pass, isnt clutch and relies on refs as much as Harden and LeFlop lmao i know posters here hate Kobe because he always killed their team and outplayed Jim in every matchup but this is homer shit on a different level
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Autist isnt even better on defense either lmao
Did you all forgot how many all-defense teams Kobe was on?? And he didnt have the luxury of playing on stacked teams where he could focus on defense
Imagine Kobe in Pops system too hahaha it wouldnt have been fair to the league
Leonards team was better on defense when he was on the bench this season
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Originally Posted by dabom
Now that i have had a second to ponder,Quote:
Originally Posted by daledondale
That ugly white girl Kobe raped wasn't in her prime either, just like Kawhi.
OMG you think Kobe didnt have stacked Laker Teams?? Lol wtfQuote:
Originally Posted by Benoit
:lmao Stopped reading there.Quote:
Originally Posted by hater
Put the dick back in your mouth where it belongs, faggot. That'll shut you up. And you'd like it, too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Benoit
let's wait 5 more years and bump this thread... KL not in prime yet.
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I know you're just trolling and nice job, but just for fun, Kobe never won DPY, Kawhi's done it twice.
At what age is an athlete in their prime ?
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Originally Posted by bic50
hee-hawQuote:
Originally Posted by Benoit
HEE- HAWWH!Quote:
Originally Posted by Benoit
Kawahi is just entering his prime. Let's see this in two years
Someone should ask Pau he played with both of them in their primes.
:lolQuote:
Originally Posted by BillMc
Kobe is definitely not clutch.
http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/1/3...ch-lakers-data
Another thought fellas btw happy 420
In real life Leonard looks like a god dam beast. Saw that dude a few months ago n he looks like Gohan when he goes Great Ape in the full moon
Kobe looks like a cab driver
It doesn't matter. The media creates the perception.Quote:
Originally Posted by OrEmuN
Generally players are in their primes from 25-32, with their peak coming at 28 or 29.Quote:
Originally Posted by bic50
I would say the prime years for basketball are usually 26-32, while the peak varies a lot. For example, Nash and Hakeem peaked in their 30s.
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Kobe wouldn't have been locked down by fucking Ennis, nor Carter, in fact was never locked down by Carter, not even the prime one.
Don't get me wrong, I like Kawhi. But he doesn't belong to the same sentence as Kobe Bryant, who I have always hated, but as a basketball player (in his prime) was the best out there and would have scored 40+ on this Grizz team...
reality is different from perception...kobe hasnt had many great playoff runs...and his shooting percentages were horribleQuote:
Originally Posted by szkorhetz
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Originally Posted by hater
Hakeem at center, Kawhi at small forward and Jordan at off guard =========== dream three!
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Originally Posted by szkorhetz
Got a point there......
But indeed, we have to wait and see, the next few years will determine the legacy of Kawhi......
Can he take over from Lebron as THE MAN????? That is the question.
Let's feature some videos from the web:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qaux_5mgyoA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JA3p8moe2r8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxRwErl-mgc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRAs5Ju3j7k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDqxuJCDM78
hmmmmm...................
Offensively, Kobe was a demon...........!
I think the more fair and relevant comparison for Kawhi would be the versatile, two-way small forwards and wingmen......
Scottie Pippen
Paul Pressey
Grant Hill
Sean Elliott
Bruce Bowen
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And of course, the Two Immortals, Larry Bird and Lebron James.
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Originally Posted by cutewizard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcETLV8z3zo
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Omg, I just realized, Paul Pressey was the Precursor to Kawhi Leonard...............!!!
Meanwhile, this human is in a class of his own, hahahahahahaha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jj-jo6oP9ik
Imagine a line-up of Shaq at center, Rodman and Leonard at forwards, hahahahahahaha
Rodman rulesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss!
Hahahahahahaha!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwbI15Ucl8s
Anyone who thinks kobe is clutch lacks credibility
Bumpity Bump
Kawhi scored 40+ on this grizz teamQuote:
Originally Posted by szkorhetz
Kawhi looking better than prime Kobe IMHOQuote:
Originally Posted by bic50
Actually SAEN asked him. He basically said that he can't compare them yet as Kawhi hasn't won anything as the Alpha.Quote:
Originally Posted by BillMc