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It can't be just hope the refs give us some home cooking, tbh...
Betrans played well, should see more minutes, IMO. Danny needs to contribute more on offense if they're going to drop 50pts by the half.
Maybe Pop will start Manu, that used to be his goto desperation move :lol
Manu scores a single point, for starters.
They don't need that many adjustments. Memphis is an offensively challenged team.
Green-Manu just needs to contribute. If they're sucking again...Pop has to continue with spot minutes from Anderson and Simmons and be ready to play them over manu or Green.
They nees a rim protector to challenge Conley. Dedman seems like a nice solution but he has been so bad..
They might just need to play Gasol more minutes.
No adjustments.
Don't get outplayed by 60 year olds=win game.
Manu in a suit the rest of the series alongside Anthony
Role players play better at home. Worse on the road. We got this.
Bertans..
Stretch 4 and fan energy.
don't play ginobli and anderson
bring Green off the bench for Simmons(there is no way he can shoot worse than green who isn't hitting shit)
keep kawhi on the floor at all times when Conley is on the floor
Stop experimenting with Parker guarding conley
STOP PLAYING PARKER AND MILLS TOGETHER
Hit open shots.
Perimeter shooting by someone other than Kawhi
I was going to say Start Manu, but OP took all the fun from it.
Thunder refs all over again......nothing the Spurs can do.
i would have been scared of playing bertans because zbo would muscle him... but bertans held up just fine physically and we able to deny the ball. he should be getting more of Lee's minutes in this series.
playing Lee against memphis reminds me of paying blair heavy minutes in 2011 :lol
I still like the Spurs shot to wrap this up in six. Memphis barely squeaked out a game at home when they were red hot from the three point line. Not that I expect the Spurs to do much after this round. Championship teams win these kind of games that they don't deserve.
Please. We shouldn't waste anymore with this guy in this round. 0-15 is unacceptable.Quote:
Originally Posted by $pursDynasty
Unless LMA, Danny, Manu, or Patty decide to show up then play Kawhi all 48 minutes and hope he scores 50+ with 10 steals (which automatically means no Anderson). Kawhi and Parker are the only 2 that have done shit this series.
they win the games they deserve, but not the games they needQuote:
Originally Posted by baseline bum
Answer:::
1) Bring in Gus Fring
2) Give him a boxcutter
3) Tell Manu to look up in the air for a bat
4) Slice
The worst part will be if Grizzlies win the series, watching them get blitzed in the next round because they are not very good. Spurs aren't that great either, average. One amazing player, a few inconsistent average players and the the rest are pure shit. This team needs major retooling in the offseason, which is rapidly approaching.
Yup. It's also not a coincidence that players have an easier time creating space with Bertans on the floor.Quote:
Originally Posted by spurraider21
Manu's gonna have to sit the rest of the series and give Bertans a few more minutes.
Gotta take things series by Series. We Had a similar problem with Dallas in 2014. :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by baseline bum
If we're getting a 12ppg Parker the rest of the playoffs. They should have a punchers chance against GSW.
PerhapsQuote:
Originally Posted by Southwest Texas Fan
YOU ARE A SMART MOTHERFUCKER!!!!!:boboQuote:
Originally Posted by james evans
Seriously though they should have one of Gasol or Bertans on the court at all times to improve spacing.
idiots on here think Bertrans has bad defense...i wonder why they think so...smh...he is actually good defensively, and does a decent job at the rim...Quote:
Originally Posted by spurraider21
So now we're advocating murder on this site? This place is a cesspool tbh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Splits
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Originally Posted by duncan2k5
Only one adjustment needs to be made -- Get Matt Bonner off the fucking air.
and other idiots cant spell his name rightQuote:
Originally Posted by duncan2k5
The obvious answer is play Lee and Manu less and Leonard more. Popovich will do absolutely none of these things because he's a predictable old man who's already run out of ideas.
All we need to do is equal their effort and we will blow them out. Then just hope the refs and score keeper stop fucking us.
Litterally all they need I didn't mind when Memphis gat away with "physical" play when they weren't hipocrital bitches crying for fouls every five minutes. But now they are so slant the calls in SA the way they slanted them for the Grizz. Also if no home cooking then just "make open threes" would be a winning formulaQuote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
No fucking clue, I'm not the coach.
Pounding the rock. Pop doesn't believe in the saying "if you keep doing what you're doing, you'll keep getting what you've been getting". He thinks if he keeps doing the same thing eventually it will work. If it doesn't, he is not worried about any shade being tossed at him because of it. There are plenty scapegoats on the floor.Quote:
Originally Posted by itzsoweezee
This is probably the worst defensive Spurs team I've seen since like 2011.
Broken Arm Manu was better than this Manu.
DMC is right about Pop. In the third HOTS scored 11 straight on line for 12th, and Pop actively trying to sub him out, smdh.
Why does pop always yank dudes that get rolling? :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by $pursDynasty
Its like he purposely is trying to snuff them out to keep them from going away from his precious system. The only time he doesn't do it is when it's too late in the fourth, because if it's early in the first he will still pull them.
He's giving them a breather. I'm not sure Pop watches the game so much as he does manage minutes and strategize. Not sure he recognizes momentum to be a real thing. I've seen him call a time out when the Spurs had gone on a 15-2 run, because the other team scored the 2 in a way Pop didn't like (was the Suns back in the Nash days). The Suns won the game since the Spurs lost their momentum.Quote:
Originally Posted by UZER
Pop is a micromanager. I don't think he does it for self adulation, I think he does it because he thinks for some reason this system that gets results in the RS will work in the playoffs when other teams bring their A games. Pop still tries to play RS ball with them. It doesn't always work. Pop doesn't make playoff adjustments, hasn't in a few years.
Tbh, if we could see inside Pop's mind we'd probably learn that Pop doesn't like their chances and knows he's got a shitty team compared to the NBA elite. He's got a good RS record he has to defend so he doesn't look like a fraud, but he knows in his heart of hearts that this 1st round isn't their roadblock. They aren't going anywhere. Pop isn't going to kill anyone to get to the 2nd round just to lose to a better playoff level team.
He sticks to his note cards like that movie chaos theory. He's never been good at adjustments. His big two adjustments have been, start Manu, start Bonner.Quote:
Originally Posted by DMC
That's why once they've been figured out, they can look like deer in the headlights. He's got a great system, but won't ever deviate from it mid game / series because he's got nothing, just the note cards.
This thing made adjustments:
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Spurs Players not named Leonard need to give a fuck.
the refs aren't keeping Danny Green from mising every open shot he getsQuote:
Originally Posted by spurtech09
So Uzer you are implying Pop is like the Zenith master with the triangle. Though he might change his system, from year to year, once he settles on one for a season he can't deviate.
PLAY DIJON!!!!!! DOESN'T HAVE TO BE IN PLACE OF PARKER BUT PLAY THE FUCKING KID FFS
lma should be involved sooner... tp took as many shots tonight as la has the past two games.
if tony is gonna take shots away from people, it should be away from the bench and not from lamarcus.
definitely wanna see murray & bertans... been saying that all season though.
Everyone has. Everyone knew once the playoffs started pop would ride with Manu.Quote:
Originally Posted by gambit1990
Poo: Make more shots.
He also doesn't have Bud and Brett in his ear these days, just Messina and that whore in the back row.Quote:
Originally Posted by UZER
not convinced tony is playing better than murray could've.
on the series tp is averaging ~45% shooting, ~3 assists...
you can't teach murray's frame or his quickness.
Tony had one bad game out of 4
i also wanna see kawhi as the screener.
I fear Murray would get eaten alive by this Memphis defense, tbh
Adjustments? Nah...Pop doesnt give a shit about winning in playoffs on these days..."There are more things than basketball"
We already know this Pop playoffs version and it doesnt look good...
"Either one of us goes to Houston or one of us goes on vacation. We'd each rather to to Houston but vacation's not terrible
Everyone's hating on Pop, and he's definitely made his mistakes this series, but the Spurs should've won this game comfortably, regardless of Pop's mistakes. There's absolutely no excuse to lose a game where Kawhi goes God-mode like he did, Tony plays the best game he's had in ages, & the Grizzlies commit 23 turnovers. Absolutely no excuse to lose this game.
This loss is on the role guys. Too many of them missed good, and often, wide open looks. Danny, Patty, Manu, & Pau ALL sucked something fierce tonight. If any of those guys do anything at all, we win this game. No excuses, it's on the players tonight. They're paid millions to hit open jump shots and finish lay ups, and they didn't do it tonight, period. Time for them to bounce back and redeem themselves and regain control of the series.
Bertans played his ass off tonight, hope that translates to some more floor time.
If the Spurs bring this defensive intensity and make fewer mistakes and a couple more 3s, it's over in 6.
Pop has some tricks up his sleeve, he doesn't bring them out until the last possible moment.
It felt like this game was lost in the 2nd quarter. Manu's minutes have been hard to watch and hurting the team.
Thank god he changed up the lineups in the 2nd half.
A team can survive through role players' mistakes but not coach's.Quote:
Originally Posted by BatManu20
Pop refused to play LMA at C with one of Bobo/DWest combo, those two guys got outrebounded by OKC bigs.
Pop refused to play Kawhi as much as KD did, Spurs were outplayed by OKC 40 points with Kawhi off floor.
And many more...How a team can survive that wrong decisions?
As great as Kawhi is, it's just not the same team without Duncan.
I would bench manu. It doesn't matter who you choose in his stead, he's going to be better.
This too. Bertans needs to see minutes.Quote:
Originally Posted by spurraider21
I think he did show some grit.
basically this.:toastQuote:
Originally Posted by Southwest Texas Fan
It's not an adjustment, but hitting a couple of open looks from three would help. Kawhi was 7 of 10 from downtown in Game 4 - and the Spurs as a team still only shot 30% from deep.
We lost to a worse Griz team with Duncan...as a 1 seed...this has nothing to do with Timmy not being here, and everything to do with PopQuote:
Originally Posted by TampaDude
Spurs gotta start hitting a higher percentage at the 3point game. The shots are there. It changes everything for the team on offense .
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Originally Posted by baseline bum
I agree. We probably win this in 6. But beating anyone else I see as highly unlikely. We can't expect Leonard to greek God mode us to a championship.
Spurs clearly need to do two things, move the ball better, and star getting easier looks inside.
You could say "hit the 3", but the Spurs are not shooting the 3 that bad for the series, this was a bad "3ball" game, but it also was a game where Memphis turned the ball over like crazy, so it evened out.
I know most of you like this ISO offense, but with Kawhi dominating so much no player gets in rhythm other than him or Tony (other ball dominant player) and you barely get easy looks. Also the 3 is not coming in the usual spots for our shooters.
1- on: bertans, simmons and maybe murray
2- off: manu and lee
3- win
Anderson was -12 in five minutes of play. Let Bertans suck up those minutes plus some from Lee.
don't play mills and parker together....we lost the game on a 5 point swing when mills got blocked
yeah, mills and parker should never see time on the court together.
stop playing lee. simple.
Was trying to figure out why pop had parker and mills on the floor at the same time..made no sense defensively and offenseively. I mean maybe if mills was hitting his shots I could understand it..
The odd thing about Pop is that he'll sit the entire starting unit no problem, but he won't bench an old guy like Manu simply out of loyalty. Pop will allow Manu to scuttle the season instead. The mantra is that Pop doesn't play favorites, but he damn sure plays the loyalty card and I believe it's because he's close friends with guys who have been on the team for a decade or more. He doesn't want Manu to go out as a loser on the bench. He'd rather let him go out as a loser on the floor, where at least it's up to Manu to win or lose.Quote:
Originally Posted by SAGirl
The others are just pawns.
stop switching the pnr maybe lol same shit has gotten us knocked out by OKC and LAC last few years. Don't hold your breath, though.
Agreed..Quote:
Originally Posted by Raven
Pop won't do it ... :td
Kyle had one bad game out of 4 too... not even his fault tbh...Quote:
Originally Posted by ducks
That was an awful decision by PopQuote:
Originally Posted by Prose
As you said... Mills wasn't even having a good game. I bet he did it for the extra ball handling, but it was a bad choice. On defense they got murdered. One could argue that right there lost the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheRemix
You have a point.Quote:
Originally Posted by DMC
To the younger players whose contracts are coming up: Get your money and GTFO out of this team. Pop is going to prefer his old crew over you no matter how you are doing. (Only half trolling with that)
The last time I remember Pop making a meaningful adjustment in a series was benching Beli against the Mavs and Thunder in 2014...
I use one of those under the kitchen sink to hang cleaning spray bottles on, to free up the deck space.Quote:
Originally Posted by hemann82
True, they absolutely were going to lose to the Mavs if Pop didn't sit Belineli, he was that awful.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
A shame that Pop lost that. *Edit*. Had thought Brett Brown was a factor, but memory was off and he was gone for 14 wasn't he?
I think Manus hurt and if he still is, more Bertans and KA, less Manu. If Manu is just sucking then he just better light a fire and do something.
Other than that I think its all mental. Everything Memphis has done has worked when it comes to psychological warfare, other than Kawhi. LA looks rattled, KA looked somewhat rattled though I think he will be effective, so its a case of getting pissed and sustaining it for 48 minutes.
This.Quote:
Originally Posted by 313
I think it comes down more to defensive play strategies more than whos on the court, and the other antidotal stuff. Mike Conley scored on whoever switched time and time again down the stretch in game 4. Its not hard to hedge and get back on Gasol or Randolph...its not like they are a huge lob threat.
If Manu is hurt, then even more so why the fuck is he playing?!
Yeah, we had Jim Boylen as our defensive coach.Quote:
Originally Posted by objective