Relax, Spurs will win Game 5 and 6

Spurs other than Leonard do not do better than 2-20 on threes (many wide open) Spurs will be backdoor swept.

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Originally Posted by DMC

look at every top 4 conference team, all have elite point guards except spurs.

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I agree, but this is the first round and Tony has played well in 3 out of 4 games. With Tony playing like he is and Kawhi being an MVP... the rest of the team is giving squat and you place the burden according to who is getting the minutes and the roles they have had.

Sure, there were guys that were available like George Hill who Utah traded for last season.. I am sure that opportunities could have been available to add a more reliable younger point guard in the course of the past couple of seasons, but obviously Pop wasn't going to move on from Tony... and it's tough to blame Tony specifically bc he has played well in 3 out of 4 games.

Like I said, Lamarcus has not been a star, Pau can't stay on the floor, his defensive shortcomings have cost the Spurs game 3 and 4.. and Manu is done. You can't bench the first two ... you can only limit Pau and by playing Lee or Dedmon the team isn't necessarily better but Pop has to get to Pau's ego somehow. So maybe Bertans helps a little bit. I am realistic in what I can expect from Bertans, and 10-15 minute should be enough. His shooting does make life easier on others. He's been a huge positive, while Lee is in the negative and he can't score against Zbo. I'd even play Murray, he gives the team a different look. I am not even high on JSimms but I don't hate him and he's been playing well and shooting well when he's gotten chances. He maybe should get more chances. He or Murray should get Manu's minutes. Kyle had played well except 5 minutes in the last game bc Pop put him in a lineup of non shooters and tried to go through Lamarcus which is a horrible choice, bc Lamarcus has been uber passive, is not decisive in the post, and if you double him quickly he can't make the right reads or passes. He got flash doubled and stripped twice. It was a terrible few minutes Kyle played but that was hardly about him and more about Lamarcus, Manu's passiveness passing the ball like a hot potato and maybe Pop's lineups.

Pop is being antiquated. I don't think he gets out of the first round unless his faith in his veterans pays off and they show up for game 5 or he simply makes adjustments and benches some guys who are having an awful series. The easiest to bench is Manu bc he's shooting 0 out there, playing gambling bad defense, getting lost, passing the ball like a hot potato, not being a threat to score and Pop has suitable replacements for him...

I am still a spurfan and root for whoever Pop has out there. If he chooses veterans again, I hope they don't go down with the ship and maybe rise to the occasion. Maybe Danny gets hot again at home, maybe Manu finally makes a shot... etc. I am not rooting for anyone to fail who is playing...

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Originally Posted by SAGirl

I would expect one of the assistants to help there. I'd hope Becky who has coached summer league maybe... but who knows? We don't know what goes on behind close doors. Someone had to have pointed to him it was time to bench Pau at some point mid season so maybe it's not lost on the coaching staff that Pop needs to do something. G
I have little faith in Pop making adjustments when it comes to putting more faith in younger players. I tell you I think Murray should be playing too.

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:tu Yep. Preaching to the choir. I've been calling for Murray to start since before the ASG, using Tony on the second unit and as Murray's Speedy Claxton security blanket. Pop has just forgotten what those kind of bold moves are like.

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Originally Posted by rjv

it's tough to question pop. he has one superstar, a false favorite (horse racing term) and an aging point guard. then he inconsistent role players and a bevy of untested younger players. easy to guess what rotation when we get to do that from our living rooms but much harder to do so when there is very little margin of error.

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To be obvious, the margin of error was in the regular season which Pop really squandered in terms of really developing young guys.

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Originally Posted by DMC

look at every top 4 conference team, all have elite point guards except spurs.

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Absolutely! And the time to find out about Murray was last season. He absolutely must pan out or the Spurs are in a world of hurt next season.
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Originally Posted by rjv

i will say this: if you follow the playoff format, you will generally see younger players perform much better at home than on the road. so with that in mind, i expect some of the role players for memphis such as ennis III to drop off in game 5. conversely, i would expect green and patty to play better here. if that happens, and kawhi is kawhi and aldridge and parker show they can at least compete then the spurs will take game 5. i had picked the spurs in a grueling six game series and i still stand by that, but i have seen some problems that i did not fully anticipate so it could go the full seven.

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Exactly! :toast

Game 4 was the Grizzlies' best shot by far, featuring fluky-high 3-point shooting by them and fluky-low for the Spurs outside of Kawhi. And it still took a minor miracle for them to win.

People melting down right now are the same ones ready to jump off a cliff during the first round in 2014.

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Originally Posted by SAGirl

I agree, but this is the first round and Tony has played well in 3 out of 4 games. With Tony playing like he is and Kawhi being an MVP... the rest of the team is giving squat and you place the burden according to who is getting the minutes and the roles they have had.

Sure, there were guys that were available like George Hill who Utah traded for last season.. I am sure that opportunities could have been available to add a more reliable younger point guard in the course of the past couple of seasons, but obviously Pop wasn't going to move on from Tony... and it's tough to blame Tony specifically bc he has played well in 3 out of 4 games.

Like I said, Lamarcus has not been a star, Pau can't stay on the floor, his defensive shortcomings have cost the Spurs game 3 and 4.. and Manu is done. You can't bench the first two ... you can only limit Pau and by playing Lee or Dedmon the team isn't necessarily better but Pop has to get to Pau's ego somehow. So maybe Bertans helps a little bit. I am realistic in what I can expect from Bertans, and 10-15 minute should be enough. His shooting does make life easier on others. He's been a huge positive, while Lee is in the negative and he can't score against Zbo. I'd even play Murray, he gives the team a different look. I am not even high on JSimms but I don't hate him and he's been playing well and shooting well when he's gotten chances. He maybe should get more chances. He or Murray should get Manu's minutes. Kyle had played well except 5 minutes in the last game bc Pop put him in a lineup of non shooters and tried to go through Lamarcus which is a horrible choice, bc Lamarcus has been uber passive, is not decisive in the post, and if you double him quickly he can't make the right reads or passes. He got flash doubled and stripped twice. It was a terrible few minutes Kyle played but that was hardly about him and more about Lamarcus, Manu's passiveness passing the ball like a hot potato and maybe Pop's lineups.

Pop is being antiquated. I don't think he gets out of the first round unless his faith in his veterans pays off and they show up for game 5 or he simply makes adjustments and benches some guys who are having an awful series. The easiest to bench is Manu bc he's shooting 0 out there, playing gambling bad defense, getting lost, passing the ball like a hot potato, not being a threat to score and Pop has suitable replacements for him...

I am still a spurfan and root for whoever Pop has out there. If he chooses veterans again, I hope they don't go down with the ship and maybe rise to the occasion. Maybe Danny gets hot again at home, maybe Manu finally makes a shot... etc. I am not rooting for anyone to fail who is playing...

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Playing well at moments and being an elite point guard are two completely different things.

Houston - Harden
Clippers - Paul
Warriors - Curry
Cavs - Irving
Wiz - Wall
Celtics - Thomas
Raptors - Lowry
Bulls - Rondo (out)
Pacers - Teague
Thunder - Westbrook
Grizz - Conley
Blazers - Lillard
Jazz - Hill
Spurs - Parker

You can see by color that the dark green is the elite PGs. The light green are the borderline elite and the yellow are the lower than borderline elite. Tony was elite, now he's not even really borderline elite but he has moments. You need more than moments in the playoffs.

Spurs don't have a good PG. They have a serviceable RS PG and an energetic "spark off the bench" guy who, unless his shot is falling, is almost useless.

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Originally Posted by Rummpd

Spurs other than Leonard do not do better than 2-20 on threes (many wide open) Spurs will be backdoor swept.

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The worm sometimes turns, and the Spurs aren't that type of shooting team. I'd be surprised if they shot that poorly all series.

Gameday balllaasss!!! Gameday!

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Originally Posted by Darius Bieber

No, Spurs are getting backdoor swept. Memphis has all the momentum. This one's over.

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Originally Posted by Darius Bieber

Saving this comment for when the Spurs expectedly lose Game 5.

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LOL FAGG:lolT
LOL LAKERS
LOL TR:lolLL
LOL WR:lolNG PER PAR
LOL CUCK

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Originally Posted by SAGirl

I agree, but this is the first round and Tony has played well in 3 out of 4 games. With Tony playing like he is and Kawhi being an MVP... the rest of the team is giving squat and you place the burden according to who is getting the minutes and the roles they have had.

Sure, there were guys that were available like George Hill who Utah traded for last season.. I am sure that opportunities could have been available to add a more reliable younger point guard in the course of the past couple of seasons, but obviously Pop wasn't going to move on from Tony... and it's tough to blame Tony specifically bc he has played well in 3 out of 4 games.

Like I said, Lamarcus has not been a star, Pau can't stay on the floor, his defensive shortcomings have cost the Spurs game 3 and 4.. and Manu is done. You can't bench the first two ... you can only limit Pau and by playing Lee or Dedmon the team isn't necessarily better but Pop has to get to Pau's ego somehow. So maybe Bertans helps a little bit. I am realistic in what I can expect from Bertans, and 10-15 minute should be enough. His shooting does make life easier on others. He's been a huge positive, while Lee is in the negative and he can't score against Zbo. I'd even play Murray, he gives the team a different look. I am not even high on JSimms but I don't hate him and he's been playing well and shooting well when he's gotten chances. He maybe should get more chances. He or Murray should get Manu's minutes. Kyle had played well except 5 minutes in the last game bc Pop put him in a lineup of non shooters and tried to go through Lamarcus which is a horrible choice, bc Lamarcus has been uber passive, is not decisive in the post, and if you double him quickly he can't make the right reads or passes. He got flash doubled and stripped twice. It was a terrible few minutes Kyle played but that was hardly about him and more about Lamarcus, Manu's passiveness passing the ball like a hot potato and maybe Pop's lineups.

Pop is being antiquated. I don't think he gets out of the first round unless his faith in his veterans pays off and they show up for game 5 or he simply makes adjustments and benches some guys who are having an awful series. The easiest to bench is Manu bc he's shooting 0 out there, playing gambling bad defense, getting lost, passing the ball like a hot potato, not being a threat to score and Pop has suitable replacements for him...

I am still a spurfan and root for whoever Pop has out there. If he chooses veterans again, I hope they don't go down with the ship and maybe rise to the occasion. Maybe Danny gets hot again at home, maybe Manu finally makes a shot... etc. I am not rooting for anyone to fail who is playing...

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Kyle sucks balls forreal

If the Spurs win game 6, it seems likely for game 1 of the next round to be on Sunday. Unlikely that all of Bos-Chi, LAC-Uta and Was-Atl make it seven games (all would be on Sunday; Spurs-Grizz and Tor-Mil would be Saturday) so feels likely the league will want some series to start Sunday. Doubt any will start Saturday both of tomorrow's games are 2-2 series.

And no, not trying to get ahead of things... just curious about how much rest there may be before Houston. If Spurs-Grizz goes seven, likely a Mon or Tue start.

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Originally Posted by cjw

If the Spurs win game 6, it seems likely for game 1 of the next round to be on Sunday. Unlikely that all of Bos-Chi, LAC-Uta and Was-Atl make it seven games (all would be on Sunday; Spurs-Grizz and Tor-Mil would be Saturday) so feels likely the league will want some series to start Sunday. Doubt any will start Saturday both of tomorrow's games are 2-2 series.

And no, not trying to get ahead of things... just curious about how much rest there may be before Houston. If Spurs-Grizz goes seven, likely a Mon or Tue start.

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We are closing this thing out in 6

I do think it goes down in 6..
hot shooting needs to continue.. on the road Spurs were off... so I wouldn't be surprised if they don't pull it off, but I think Manu waking up was a good sign and Pop making adjustments by playing Bertans.

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Originally Posted by cjw

If the Spurs win game 6, it seems likely for game 1 of the next round to be on Sunday. Unlikely that all of Bos-Chi, LAC-Uta and Was-Atl make it seven games (all would be on Sunday; Spurs-Grizz and Tor-Mil would be Saturday) so feels likely the league will want some series to start Sunday. Doubt any will start Saturday both of tomorrow's games are 2-2 series.

And no, not trying to get ahead of things... just curious about how much rest there may be before Houston. If Spurs-Grizz goes seven, likely a Mon or Tue start.

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Per NBA, Round 2 is to commence no sooner than May 1st

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Originally Posted by Darius Bieber

No, Spurs are getting backdoor swept. Memphis has all the momentum. This one's over.

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Originally Posted by Darius Bieber

Saving this comment for when the Spurs expectedly lose Game 5.

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BUMP FAGGGGGG:lolT

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people still respond to bieber?

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Originally Posted by spurraider21

people still respond to bieber?

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I never get tired of him being wrong

OP with the prediction goods!:toast