Welcome to SA, CP3

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Originally Posted by yavozerb

Please take a look at fa's in 2018? If you think you can get Durant then you wait if not you get Paul now while you can. Nobody worth waiting on for 2018, you go for it now.

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This! The idea of using massive cap space for 2018 isn't that appealing bc of the crappy class. Paul George is going to LAL or staying with Pacer for the super max, so I dont count him as realistic.

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Originally Posted by CGD

This! The idea of using massive cap space for 2018 isn't that appealing bc of the crappy class. Paul George is going to LAL or staying with Pacer for the super max, so I dont count him as realistic.

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He could be convinced to comeback to the Spurs.

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Originally Posted by cjw

It's complete misinformation that the difference is $50 million (actually $53mm). The non-Clippers deal would end a year earlier, meaning the difference is closer to $7 million over the first four years. In year five, add another $4 million to that but an opportunity to hit FA earlier. So $11 million over five years. Same misnomer as when Dwight was a FA.

Also, better to hit FA again at 36 than 37 (or 35 if getting an ETO ... could even at 34 with a 2+1 deal).

Yes, it's less guaranteed money if he were to suffer a career altering or ending injury. And the Spurs may not even be able to offer the full max.

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I think the peice you're missing though is the difference in the 8% annual raises the clippers can offer versus the 5% raises a non-clipper team can offer. That's kind of a big deal.

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Originally Posted by spursistan

Let's just hope he was watching these two Warriors beatdowns :lol

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I'm sure another report will leak just like after Game 1...

"CP3 still strongly considering Spurs"

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Originally Posted by CGD

This! The idea of using massive cap space for 2018 isn't that appealing bc of the crappy class. Paul George is going to LAL or staying with Pacer for the super max, so I dont count him as realistic.

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What about 2019 and 2020. Paul max would preclude it. Plus it's just too much money to walk away from. Even with taTexas taxes that 6th year guaranteed is huge.

^^^ LoL

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Originally Posted by cd98

What about 2019 and 2020. Paul max would preclude it. Plus it's just too much money to walk away from. Even with taTexas taxes that 6th year guaranteed is huge.

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2019 you're rolling with Paul, Leonard, LMA as your core, assuming LMA doesn't opt out before the start of that season. You're looking for complementary pieces then, not stars. In 2020, you're looking at giving Kawhi his super deal, but also moving on from LMA or retaining him for less. You have flexibility then.

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Originally Posted by cd98

I don't see how Paul is enough.

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Hes not. Especially with how much we'd be giving up in role-play. Only shot Spurs have at beating this warriors team is if Durant or Curry fall off a cliff, or Lebron realizes he's never going to win another title in Cleveland, and come to the Spurs. Maybe CP3 would care to join him for cheap then tbh. :downspin:

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Originally Posted by CGD

2019 you're rolling with Paul, Leonard, LMA as your core, assuming LMA doesn't opt out before the start of that season. You're looking for complementary pieces then, not stars. In 2020, you're looking at giving Kawhi his super deal, but also moving on from LMA or retaining him for less. You have flexibility then.

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This

Damn, 33-year old Chris Paul, 33-year old Aldridge, 80-year olds Parker and Gasol..Spurs are going to counter the Warriors by yelling at them to get off their lawns:lol

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Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37

Damn, 33-year old Chris Paul, 33-year old Aldridge, 80-year olds Parker and Gasol..Spurs are going to counter the Warriors by yelling at them to get off their lawns:lol

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:lmao

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Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37

Damn, 33-year old Chris Paul, 33-year old Aldridge, 80-year olds Parker and Gasol..Spurs are going to counter the Warriors by yelling at them to get off their lawns:lol

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Originally Posted by CGD

I think the peice you're missing though is the difference in the 8% annual raises the clippers can offer versus the 5% raises a non-clipper team can offer. That's kind of a big deal.

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I factored that in. Same starting salary with year three being 16.6% higher under 8% raises, and 10.25% higher on 5% raises. Assuming 35% of a $103 million cap (I know the max cap is slightly different) that's $42.0 million vs. 39.7 million in year three (also slightly higher in year 2).

A Paul deal would almost certainly be a 3+1 and he'd have a chance to cash in on 8% raises after year 3.

Yes, 8% vs. 5% means something but can be bridged. I'd rather get to free agency again sooner if I'm him and get one last huge check. Better at 34-35 than 36-37.

I'm a little embarrassed the fans are falling for this. This is Kidd all over again. The money is too good for CP3. For those saying Balmer won't pay him super max, hello he paid a $ billlion for the team. This is a classic LBJ move. You threaten to go to the Spurs in hopes Balmer, Doc, etc.. make the team a better contender. It's real alt that simple.

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Originally Posted by houston spurs fan

I'm a little embarrassed the fans are falling for this. This is Kidd all over again. The money is too good for CP3. For those saying Balmer won't pay him super max, hello he paid a $ billlion for the team. This is a classic LBJ move. You threaten to go to the Spurs in hopes Balmer, Doc, etc.. make the team a better contender. It's real alt that simple.

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How do the Clippers FO make them better?? Bring back everyone else? Make trades? What player would want to go there if CP3 isn't there? CP3 is the selling point of adding other players

There isn't any leverage pull by CP3 camp lol.


Oh and Kidd is a terrible example because Kidd himself has said he chose SA but was convinced on a plane fligh by his wife to stay in NJ so SHE could pursue a career...Kidd even admitted regret not signing..

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Originally Posted by CGD

2019 you're rolling with Paul, Leonard, LMA as your core, assuming LMA doesn't opt out before the start of that season. You're looking for complementary pieces then, not stars. In 2020, you're looking at giving Kawhi his super deal, but also moving on from LMA or retaining him for less. You have flexibility then.

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Kawhi will sign his supermax deal next summer and it will kick in in 2019.

I wonder if the Cavs end up getting taken out, if Lebron leaves....imagine if he says fuck it, and joins the Spurs?

If he doesnt get it done this year, he likely wont ever beat Golden State, he could come West, earn his way to the finals, and then rail out a crappy team in the finals.

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Originally Posted by soxxx

I wonder if the Cavs end up getting taken out, if Lebron leaves....imagine if he says fuck it, and joins the Spurs?

If he doesnt get it done this year, he likely wont ever beat Golden State, he could come West, earn his way to the finals, and then rail out a crappy team in the finals.

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Lebron has one more year before his player option.

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Originally Posted by soxxx

I wonder if the Cavs end up getting taken out, if Lebron leaves....imagine if he says fuck it, and joins the Spurs?

If he doesnt get it done this year, he likely wont ever beat Golden State, he could come West, earn his way to the finals, and then rail out a crappy team in the finals.

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Lmmfao I told my wife this same exact thing last night. Take a pay cut to be our PG

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Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37

Damn, 33-year old Chris Paul, 33-year old Aldridge, 80-year olds Parker and Gasol..Spurs are going to counter the Warriors by yelling at them to get off their lawns:lol

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:lol

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Originally Posted by tbdog

Lebron has one more year before his player option.

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Yeah just realized that, well he fucked up, it wouldnt shock me if he and KD go somewhere after next year. Have to be expect the unexpected in this days NBA.

How about this, sign and trade Paul and Aldridge for Love and Irving.

How bah dah?

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Originally Posted by soxxx

I wonder if the Cavs end up getting taken out, if Lebron leaves....imagine if he says fuck it, and joins the Spurs?

If he doesnt get it done this year, he likely wont ever beat Golden State, he could come West, earn his way to the finals, and then rail out a crappy team in the finals.

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He's recently said that he has nothing left to prove.

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Originally Posted by look_at_g_shred

He's recently said that he has nothing left to prove.

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He's a fucking liar...

anyone got insider access?