Spurs Select G Derrick White in the 2017 NBA Draft (29th Overall)

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Originally Posted by Solid D

Maybe Pop started talking politics with him.

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He wasn't saying much, just uh huh & yes sir. It was probably drunk Pop bitching about the Senate healthcare plan.

White has great size for a point guard and can also play off the ball. Despite being 23 he excelled in his only year of division 1 ball. He can shoot the 3 and seems to be a heady player. Not even close to Slowmo's lack of athleticism either.

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Originally Posted by DPG21920

What's crazy is he's another major shot blocking guard - sound like someone who's leaving opens the door for that skillset ?

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:wow Steal of the draft.

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Originally Posted by cjw

Best part about this pick means it's unlikely they'll burn money on Mills this offseason. Let some other team pay him

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I think he's great pick period but this makes the pick even better. Paying Patty would be a huge waste of money so anything that helps avoid that is great.

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Originally Posted by SnakeBoy

He was saying much, just uh huh & yes sir. It was probably drunk Pop bitching about the Senate healthcare plan.

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:lmao....

Yeah, I can see this become James Anderson 2.0 tbh. Yet another non-eventive Spurs draft.

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Originally Posted by GSH

Stats from online colleges don't mean as much.

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:lol

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Originally Posted by NASpurs

The resemblance is uncanny. Our resident Kyle Anderson lover is flicking the bean as we speak.

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No thanks.

A few Mavs & Rockets fans who have seen him play, seemed pretty upset that we drafted him fwiw.

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Originally Posted by BillMc

Well, just another hint Patty is gone.

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He gone....
Forbes needs to do better too. He can't be shooting so poorly.

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Originally Posted by SAGirl

No thanks.

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:lol

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Originally Posted by objective

If we're all lucky Anderson will be dumped for a second rounder.

I don't like the thought of seeing him and White on the floor at the same time.

You just know they'll trap each other in an unstable orbit, circling ever faster until Anderson's tidally locked cranium crashes into White's.

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:lol
He's about to play more next season TBH :rolleyes

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Originally Posted by sasaint

Spurs are light years ahead of the rest of the league. Small ball? We're gonna resign Patty and roll out Micro Ball.

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:lmao

Fathead 2.0 :lol

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Originally Posted by Chinook

But gotta get rid of Green instead of Tony. You can't possibly tell me that an injured third PG is less important than a starting two-guard.

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You have all the right to be sour...

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Originally Posted by DPG21920

I don't know about him enough to judge him as a player but Im just saying Spurs need bigs/wings and versatile defenders.

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I really didn't prepare for this draft and was spectating this time. Not blown away, not one of the guys hyped up here ... everyone talked bigs so I didn't even know this guy. Everyone Saud it wasn't a great draft class for guards at Spurs slot, that bigs was where it was at etc... so I don't know him AT all

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Originally Posted by Darius Bieber

Yeah, I can see this become James Anderson 2.0 tbh. Yet another non-eventive Spurs draft.

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james anderson was actually an exciting pick though, he just didn't pan out

Buford knows he can do no wrong. If it doesn't pan out for White, his resident slurpers will tell us you can't always draft a gem with a late first round pick and the vanilla media will mention Parker (Presti's pick) & Leonard (wanted Valenciunas instead) to prop up his overrated drafting skills and will completely ignore the 10+ duds

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Originally Posted by DDUBB1770

Combo guard covers patty and possibly Danny trade absence most NBA ready combo guard left long decent athleticism solid shooter although not a quick release and nice floater in the paint against bigger defenders strong character buffer pick imo if we have to gut the roster for cap space for a top 3 guy... plays solid perimeter d w length and is fantastic jumping passing lanes ... watch a lot of U of A basketball and a lot of pac12 hoops just my take no guarantee just think speaks more to them saying patty is gone and hoping to trade Danny to free up space

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Thanks for sharing honest opinion.
Roleplayer who bc of age and development will work hard and is mature for a rookie. Patty is most definitely gone and I think they aren't sure Forbes will translate his shooting to the NBA. Still a question mark despite his much hyped shooting. Increases competition among those guys too.

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Originally Posted by rastaspur

Sa girl might be having dirty thoughts with the fathead twins. Thoughts of being their Chinese fingercuff running in the head.

I'm kidding of course.

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That's disgusting TBH lol

My mate is a magic fan he was high on him.

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Originally Posted by TheDoctor

Agreed. Don't know if the tears came from listening to Pop say "Listen to me big boy, you made it. You're in the NBA now. But first, why is Pluto no longer a Planet?"

DW - :huh

:pop: - Doghouse.

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:lmao

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Originally Posted by ace3g

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:cry

So he's our LDN replacement I see

He is kind of what you expect from a late first rounder. Certainly not a great steal like Parker o Splitter. Should be better than Kyle Anderson though if he isn't totally lazy an only in for the money.

Meh, hard to get excited or disgusted with any draft picks tbh. I'll wait and see

Looks like an SG type of player tbh so it doesn't mess with Murray's growth and, yeah Green might really be gone.

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Originally Posted by 100%duncan

Meh, hard to get excited or disgusted with any draft picks tbh. I'll wait and see

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Hard for me not to get excited for a draft pick. As long as it's not a stash or just a slow big like Swanigan then it's exciting.

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Originally Posted by Nathan89

Hard for me not to get excited for a draft pick. As long as it's not a stash or just a slow big like Swanigan then it's exciting.

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First impressions

Wright: Sweet stroke, long wingspan, will play the 2
Blossom: Athletic, can be a matchup advantage at the 3

Doubt either will be as bad as fathead tbh

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Originally Posted by spurraider21

james anderson was actually an exciting pick though, he just didn't pan out

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He's was on track to be a rotation player before the injury tbh

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Originally Posted by benefactor

He's was on track to be a rotation player before the injury tbh

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Was Deonte Burton taken???

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Originally Posted by SAGirl

I really didn't prepare for this draft and was spectating this time. Not blown away, not one of the guys hyped up here ... everyone talked bigs so I didn't even know this guy. Everyone Saud it wasn't a great draft class for guards at Spurs slot, that bigs was where it was at etc... so I don't know him AT all

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what an autocorrect

Ringer Jonathan Tjark's take and grade on White


29. San Antonio Spurs: Derrick White, PG, Colorado
The Spurs did it again. White is a 6-foot-5 combo guard without any holes in his game besides a lack of elite athleticism, and his basketball IQ and shooting ability will make him a perfect fit in San Antonio. His path to playing time next season will depend on what happens to Jonathon Simmons and Patty Mills in free agency, and how much their longtime vets Manu Ginobili and Tony Parker have left in the tank. In any case, he should be a nice long-term complement to Dejounte Murray on the perimeter. If there’s a Malcolm Brogdon in this year’s draft, it’s White.
Value: A
Fit: A

Bleacher Report grade on White

Brace yourselves. This is shocking.

The San Antonio Spurs made a smart pick at the tail end of the first round. In other news: Grass is green, water is wet and the Golden State Warriors are probably going to be competitive in 2017-18.

Kudos to the NBA's model organization for hedging its bets as Tony Parker recovers from a season-ending quad injury, Manu Ginobili flirts with retirement and Patty Mills hits unrestricted free agency. They're not willing to rely on Dejounte Murray alone, nor are they content counting on a big free-agency signing. Instead, they're drafting a high-upside point guard in Derrick White who has enough shooting and passing skills to capably run an offense.

If White is a bust after just one season of top-level NCAA basketball, it won't hurt the Spurs too dramatically. But if he pans out? Well, he probably will, because Spurs.

Grade A-

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Originally Posted by objective

He kind of looks like Anderson and Mills got merged in the transporter during beam up.

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Lmao

The idea that White is still growing into his body at 23 and may have untapped athletic potential is crazy.

The guy is basically Marco Belinelli but not as much of a defensive liability. I don't see what y'all are complaining about.

I like the pick. Especially how shitty this draft was overall, I could see him move up the ranks overall. I mean, this draft was trash and there were a lot of trash players selected.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Body

I like the pick. Especially how shitty this draft was overall, I could see him move up the ranks overall. I mean, this draft was trash and there were a lot of trash players selected.

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I agree, we'll see how he will develop. He's just a 29 pick, i don't understand people crying about this selection and saying Bell was a steal or we have to take Hart ( all have some flaws). They are projects now....

My only issue is his size and athleticism.
I like Murray bc he's lanky and helps us against warriors, thunder, etc. Young Bogans types won't help

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Originally Posted by GSH

Stats from online colleges don't mean as much.

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LMAOOOO :lmao

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Originally Posted by LaMarcus Bryant

My only issue is his size and athleticism.
I like Murray bc he's lanky and helps us against warriors, thunder, etc. Young Bogans types won't help

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i think you're right about athleticism, he is not unathletic but it could be a concern, his size is not bad at 6'5 but he needs to add some muscles.

The only big we have on contract or not on the trading block is Bertrans...They pick two guards. This does not seem like an "A" level pick. It only might be good if it keeps Murray motivated. Pop will sign a vet to play while parker out. This kid only play d league and garbage time.

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Originally Posted by duncan2150

i think you're right about athleticism, he is not unathletic but it could be a concern, his size is not bad as 6'5 but he needs to add some muscles.

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In today's nba 6 foot 5 doesn't cut it for SG minutes imo

RC said that White is not really a PG, and that they feel they can make him much better defensively. I don't think he is here so much as to replace Patty, but rather insurance against a Manu retirement and or as a future replacement for Green. The future could come as soon as this off season.

Good read. :tu

Found this excerpt from the above article particularly interesting:

The most anomalous aspect of White’s defensive profile is his ability to block shots. He had the same block rate (4.9 percent) as Bam Adebayo, a power forward projected to go in the first round in this year’s draft, and he blocked more shots per-40 minutes than traditional center prospects like Tony Bradley and Ivan Rabb. Most of his blocks came on the ball, when he timed his contest perfectly and surprised the man he was guarding with his length. V.J. Beachem, a 6-foot-8 swingman from Notre Dame projected to go in the second round in this year’s draft, can rise up and shoot over the top of most NCAA defenders. When he tried that against White, he got his shot sent back at him: “Shot-blocking is all about timing. The key is just getting yourself in the right position,” White told me.

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Originally Posted by dbestpro

RC said that White is not really a PG, and that they feel they can make him much better defensively. I don't think he is here so much as to replace Patty, but rather insurance against a Manu retirement and or as a future replacement for Green. The future could come as soon as this off season.

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Yup he was pretty much a swiss army knife guard... insurance for Patty, Manu, Green and Simmons..

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Originally Posted by BatManu20

Good read. :tu

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Thanks for sharing, good article.

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Originally Posted by BatManu20

Found this excerpt from the above article particularly interesting:

The most anomalous aspect of White’s defensive profile is his ability to block shots. He had the same block rate (4.9 percent) as Bam Adebayo, a power forward projected to go in the first round in this year’s draft, and he blocked more shots per-40 minutes than traditional center prospects like Tony Bradley and Ivan Rabb. Most of his blocks came on the ball, when he timed his contest perfectly and surprised the man he was guarding with his length. V.J. Beachem, a 6-foot-8 swingman from Notre Dame projected to go in the second round in this year’s draft, can rise up and shoot over the top of most NCAA defenders. When he tried that against White, he got his shot sent back at him: “Shot-blocking is all about timing. The key is just getting yourself in the right position,” White told me.

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I'm not sure how well that kind of shot blocking can translate to the NBA level. His wingspan is quite a bit shorter compared to Danny Green, 6-7 1/2 vs. 6-10.

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Originally Posted by BatManu20

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In Tad we trust

:lol

I pray he pans out but I no zero about him and his write up isn't awe inspiring, I was hoping the Spurs might go with the South Carolina SG Sindarius Thornwell, I saw him a good bit last year, and saw him will his team that has never been much to the Final Four but ah well.

Sean's heading their domestic scouting department.

Something interesting from DX :

Colorado Guard Derrick White posted the second best three-quarter sprint time at 3.08 (97th percentile historically) and tied for the third best standing vertical leap at 35.5 (99th percentile historically). The D2 transfer combo guard was a rather unheralded prospect until this season. White measured 6'4.5 with shoes with a 6'7.5 wingspan which is very similar to the physical measurements of Chicago Bulls guard Jerian Grant, but his athletic testing results are very similar to those of Mike Conley's. - Source: http://www.draftexpress.com/article/...analysis-5930/

Dont like this pick
Doesnt even make sense to me even though the kid can play
Unless however theyre dead set on moving Green & giving Simmons the 2
Then it makes sense even if I dont agree or like it
I preferred Ojeleye
Shit spoil me & trade Green to BOS for him

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Originally Posted by $pursDynasty

I pray he pans out but I no zero about him and his write up isn't awe inspiring, I was hoping the Spurs might go with the South Carolina SG Sindarius Thornwell, I saw him a good bit last year, and saw him will his team that has never been much to the Final Four but ah well.

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I loved Thornwell's heart, determination, grit, toughness and on-court leadership. He is exactly the kind of player every college coach loves. But I have doubts that those traits will get him very far in the NBA. He doesn't seem very quick or fast or have a great shot - kind of middling athleticism and no outstanding basketball skill. You hit the nail on the head - his game is one of will.

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Originally Posted by Dverde

Going to need a new number

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Easy fix, just switch the digits.

truthfully, i really can't evaluate this trade until free agency comes to an end.

I'm starting to warm up to this pick. With Green and Simmons likely gone in free agency, this team needs to stockpile as many guards as it can and White certainly helps fill that void.

Moreover, the fact that this kid is said to have a high upside and that virtually every website grades this pick as an A or A- means there might be something to him that most of us missed.

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Originally Posted by jyra

I'm not sure how well that kind of shot blocking can translate to the NBA level. His wingspan is quite a bit shorter compared to Danny Green, 6-7 1/2 vs. 6-10.

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His standing reach is only 1.5 inches less than Danny Green and he has a 6.5 inch greater not step vertical.

Like the pick a bit more now that I am more familiar with his game.

still hope that the Spurs move Green to the 76ers for Parsecniks, Bolden, and Lessort. three top 40 (according to DX) prospects in exchange for Green would be great return

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Originally Posted by cd021

Like the pick a bit more now that I am more familiar with his game.

still hope that the Spurs move Green to the 76ers for Parsecniks, Bolden, and Lessort. three top 40 (according to DX) prospects in exchange for Green would be great return

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would love that deal man. They need a SG in the worst way and with playmakers like Simmons, Fultz, Saric, and Embiid they could use a 3 and D player

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Originally Posted by cd021

Like the pick a bit more now that I am more familiar with his game.

still hope that the Spurs move Green to the 76ers for Parsecniks, Bolden, and Lessort. three top 40 (according to DX) prospects in exchange for Green would be great return

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Would be robbery in the long run. All three of those guys have tons of potential.

Maybe Brown does us a solid. :lol

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Originally Posted by duncan2150

Something interesting from DX :

Colorado Guard Derrick White posted the second best three-quarter sprint time at 3.08 (97th percentile historically) and tied for the third best standing vertical leap at 35.5 (99th percentile historically). The D2 transfer combo guard was a rather unheralded prospect until this season. White measured 6'4.5 with shoes with a 6'7.5 wingspan which is very similar to the physical measurements of Chicago Bulls guard Jerian Grant, but his athletic testing results are very similar to those of Mike Conley's. - Source: http://www.draftexpress.com/article/...analysis-5930/

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"nonathletic" :lmao

Spurs did it again. :flag:

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Originally Posted by sasaint

Where? What did he say?

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Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht

Screenshot this before he deletes it :lmao

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Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht

MY FAVORITE ONE.... :lmao....

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atleast he knows turnovers kill

I just don't see what there is not to like about D White.

Seems like a solid player overall the more I read about him, but I still would have rather seen them take a forward tbh

“This chip is going to stay on my shoulder,” White proclaimed. “If I lose it, I’m going to be out of the league quickly. I got plenty of work to do. I’m going to get back in the gym. I gotta get better.”

http://www.denverpost.com/2017/06/22/derrick-white-nba-draft-spurs/

The dude has grit. His journey to where he is now is impressive. I love the pick.

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Originally Posted by DAF86

:lol Dumb motherfucker. Same shit with Simmons a few years back. These dumbasses trying to make it to the league should restrain themselves from posting anything bad about any NBA team.

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It didn't seem to hurt Simmons much.

That instinct and timing is god given... paired with a great standing vertical, and his technique polished by the Spurs defensive system, seems like his shot blocking will carry over. Intelligence also helps on both sides of the ball. And he has also shown fron his career path, to be someone who overcomes odds, and will give everything he has to succeed. That sort of attitude is contagious and needed for championship teams.

I think Murray needs to be surrounded by those sorts of energies or he could easily get waylaid fron his promise.

I'm not sure, but also a part of Danny Green being jettisoned has been his inconsistent work ethic. I know where he gets his haircut, and that barber shop also has a lot questionable going ons about it.

This pick shows many layers, and gives interesting insight.

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Originally Posted by BatManu20

:lol

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:lmao

Derrick White stats: 68.1% at the rim, 16.7% assisted at the rim, 40% on 3's, 61.4% assisted 3's.

That rim % is phenomenal.

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Originally Posted by bic50

It didn't seem to hurt Simmons much.

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i don't get it, either. why does a player who hasn't played for the spurs before have to had been a spurs fan prior to coming here?

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Originally Posted by BatManu20

:lol

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KA and Derrick's first photo op will probably look something like this: https://redshirtdiaries.files.wordpr...09/cage-21.jpg

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Originally Posted by timtonymanu

They drafted another fathead lol

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you beat me. :(

The more I see, the more I like.
29th pick so who knows.

But the shooting, passing, PNR potential with his size....
Allows you to play him with Mills (if he stays) or Forbes,
Or you can in the future have a fun 6-5-6-7 line up of Him, Murray, Simmons and KL...

I try not ot get too excited about draft picks- especially late first rounders...

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Originally Posted by 100%duncan

Looks like an SG type of player tbh so it doesn't mess with Murray's growth and, yeah Green might really be gone.

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They can definitely play some together. White can play off the ball on offense and both have the height/length to defend most SG's, though they need to get stronger obviously.

After I got over the initial confusion and surprise (thought they'd go big), I was thinking this might be related to Green too. Could be that he was just the player they liked most available, of course. But I'd imagine they'll pursue a veteran starting PG and if successful, will be completely overloaded in the back court.

Maybe they just don't want to pay Green his worth on his next contract, especially considering half, if not more, will probably be for his decline years. If they can't land Paul, they'll continue to lack a dynamic guard, in which case they might try to make up for it by committee.

Spurs are trying to move in a direction where guys have multiple skills to play in multiple spots such that there are no positions, only players. In a hypo, Murray and White play together, but neither is a PG or a SG strictly. They are just players.

I don't think the Spurs can go wrong with him...for a 29th pick in the draft. White scored an above-average 1.07 points per possession, and was the seventh-most-efficient scorer out of all high-major conferences.

meh

:lmao

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Originally Posted by rjv

KA and Derrick's first photo op will probably look something like this: https://redshirtdiaries.files.wordpr...09/cage-21.jpg

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I thought we couldn't do worst than SlowTard.. new low

You guys undervalue grit. Grit is what made Jimmy Butler. A player that some of you bring up frequently because Spurs passed on him. Jimmy doesn't even look as good on paper as White.

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Originally Posted by Nathan89

You guys undervalue grit. Grit is what made Jimmy Butler. A player that some of you bring up frequently because Spurs passed on him. Jimmy doesn't even look as good on paper as White.

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Yup. It's what those Marquette players had for awhile... but yeah he's got a better all around game. He's very close to a complete player.

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Originally Posted by Nathan89

You guys undervalue grit. Grit is what made Jimmy Butler. A player that some of you bring up frequently because Spurs passed on him. Jimmy doesn't even look as good on paper as White.

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^

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Originally Posted by rjv

KA and Derrick's first photo op will probably look something like this: https://redshirtdiaries.files.wordpr...09/cage-21.jpg

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It ain't a beauty contest, folks.

Not a bad pick the more I look at it. Hard to do much with the tail end of the first round, easy to piss it away. Hopefully we get to see him put some reps in since he's already 23.

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Originally Posted by TD 21

They can definitely play some together. White can play off the ball on offense and both have the height/length to defend most SG's, though they need to get stronger obviously.

After I got over the initial confusion and surprise (thought they'd go big), I was thinking this might be related to Green too. Could be that he was just the player they liked most available, of course. But I'd imagine they'll pursue a veteran starting PG and if successful, will be completely overloaded in the back court.

Maybe they just don't want to pay Green his worth on his next contract, especially considering half, if not more, will probably be for his decline years. If they can't land Paul, they'll continue to lack a dynamic guard, in which case they might try to make up for it by committee.

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Yeah Id be surprised if we kept danny at this point especially with the qo on jsimms

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkpjUrXKw6U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJe7KAG2qvY

Oh my, the alien invasion is real.